Continuation of previous thread:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/feminism/4560089-amber-heardjohnny-depp-verdict?page=1
and the one before(during trial):
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4552076-amber-heardjohnny-depp-trial?page=36&reply=117586863
Also, refresher on DV:
www.womensaid.org.uk/information-support/what-is-domestic-abuse/recognising-domestic-abuse/
Feminism: chat
Amber Heard&Johnny Depp post verdict
Miscfeminista · 05/06/2022 22:58
IrisVersicolor · 06/06/2022 11:40
@MarieIVanArkleStinks
She made terrible claims about him, the one about the bottle being the pinnacle, and if you're going to make such serious accusations there needs to be compelling evidence to support them.
You’ve basically just dismissed the majority of sexual assault, rape and sexual abuse cases. Are you aware of that?
Sex offences often come down to one person’s word against another.
What goes “compelling evidence” mean to you?
TiddyTidTwo · 06/06/2022 11:20
I would imagine anyone who is accused of such things, even if found innocent, this would deeply affect them for the rest of their life, and their families.
That cloud would forever hang over them, whether their careers continued or not.
It's a terrible thing to inflict on someone else. Malicious.
TiddyTidTwo · 06/06/2022 11:20
I would imagine anyone who is accused of such things, even if found innocent, this would deeply affect them for the rest of their life, and their families.
That cloud would forever hang over them, whether their careers continued or not.
It's a terrible thing to inflict on someone else. Malicious.
ancientgran · 06/06/2022 11:51
Was John Leslie ever convicted of anything? I know it wasn't a woman accusing him in the original case, I think someone named him as the rapist on tv and later apologised but I think it ruined John Leslie's career.
AdamRyan · 06/06/2022 11:59
Hmm.
What do you say to the 96% of raped women who don't see any justice?
Or the three women a week killed by partners?
Or the family of women killed after reporting their abusive stalker?
It's for the greater good, can't go round having innocent men with a cloud hanging over them?
Are you so entirely lacking in empathy and imagination for someone with different genitals to yourself?
Very rude to speculate about people's genitals. You have no clue what's in my pants.
I will have more empathy for posters on here arguing about poor men, when men stop perpetuating a system that enables sexual violence against women, see above.
TiddyTidTwo · 06/06/2022 11:20
I would imagine anyone who is accused of such things, even if found innocent, this would deeply affect them for the rest of their life, and their families.
That cloud would forever hang over them, whether their careers continued or not.
It's a terrible thing to inflict on someone else. Malicious.
IrisVersicolor · 06/06/2022 01:26
And then you saw a woman in the same situation but failed to detect it and demonised her instead.
TiddyTidTwo · 06/06/2022 01:20
Iris
I used it for me too. Probably as that was I was called when I reacted. And I believed it
AdamRyan · 06/06/2022 11:59
Hmm.
What do you say to the 96% of raped women who don't see any justice?
Or the three women a week killed by partners?
Or the family of women killed after reporting their abusive stalker?
It's for the greater good, can't go round having innocent men with a cloud hanging over them?
Are you so entirely lacking in empathy and imagination for someone with different genitals to yourself?
Very rude to speculate about people's genitals. You have no clue what's in my pants.
I will have more empathy for posters on here arguing about poor men, when men stop perpetuating a system that enables sexual violence against women, see above.
TiddyTidTwo · 06/06/2022 11:20
I would imagine anyone who is accused of such things, even if found innocent, this would deeply affect them for the rest of their life, and their families.
That cloud would forever hang over them, whether their careers continued or not.
It's a terrible thing to inflict on someone else. Malicious.
AdamRyan · 06/06/2022 12:04
www.google.com/amp/s/www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/uk-news/teen-fined-wasting-police-time-20239874.amp
Read this and tell me that the police are doing a great job protecting women
IrisVersicolor · 06/06/2022 12:20
@MarieIVanArkleStinks
I’m truly sorry for your experiences, but to be fair your comments had no context. There was no indication of any of the above in your original post: one can only go on your words as written on the page.
Can you see how, albeit unintentionally, it might be offensive to sex offences
survivors to declare that “evidence’” should be “compelling” in order to make a “serious accusation”?
IrisVersicolor · 06/06/2022 12:34
@Chulainn
It doesn’t mean JD wasn’t abusive as I think he was
If you think Depp was abusive, then Heard did not defame him by saying he was. All else is irrelevant, Particularly Kate Moss which had no bearing on the case. Even Depp said of Heard that she had turned the Moss incident in her head into something it wasn’t. Ie Heard did believe her interpretation, she wasn’t intentionally falsifying the incident.
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