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Amber Heard&Johnny Depp verdict

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Miscfeminista · 31/05/2022 14:28

Continuation of previous thread

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Speculations on verdict, news related to it, insights into specifics of legal matters, opinions and impressions…let’s keep it going and see how verdict finds us >>>>>>>>>>

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IrisVersicolor · 03/06/2022 22:33

Depp lied, but that seems to have passed many people by.

AdamRyan · 03/06/2022 22:34

But why tiddy?
She took way less in the divorce than she deserved
I don't understand what her motivation would be.

AdamRyan · 03/06/2022 22:36

IrisVersicolor · 03/06/2022 22:33

Depp lied, but that seems to have passed many people by.

He is horrible and I can barely stand to look at him.
I'll be interested if his fans are so vocal in his next trial, or if that only happens when the complainant is female

TiddyTidTwo · 03/06/2022 22:41

Adam £7m net after tax for 15 months marriage?

Now was he worth more or not? Lots OB here saying not, he was failing, losing work before her op-ed

You see? Tell me with that in mind which her lawyers presented she wasn't responsible for his lack of work.

Honestly the mental gymnastics so I can stand up on here to argue against AH quite frankly borders on abusive.

ChuckBerrysBoots · 03/06/2022 22:46

She would likely have got more under Californian divorce laws, that was reflected in the judgement from the UK trial. Also the issue of paying the charities was also addressed at the appeal of the UK case. I re-read them both today and with the exception of a couple of points where I couldn’t quite see why the judge was favouring her evidence over his, I didn’t think there was anything presented in the US trial which substantially undermined the judge’s findings. I guess that’s the difference between trial by judge and trial by jury.

TiddyTidTwo · 03/06/2022 22:57

I think the trial is a vessel to the truth, whatever the outcome

A woman has been proved a liar to extort money and champion herself whilst her ex husband was vilified. Now she talks about men with power but SHE held the power. She continued whilst Depp lost everything.

Masterful powerful Johnny Depp according to her and some on here who in the last 6 years has been labelled an abuser, kicked of Disney wand WB on her word alone

Now it's apparent she's a liar

It's a fucking disgrace.

AdamRyan · 03/06/2022 22:59

Adam £7m net after tax for 15 months marriage?
In court they said californian law is 50% over duration of marriage, during which he earned $65m
So 7m was nothing
She could have been being vindictive but he's the one that promised global humiliation

TiddyTidTwo · 03/06/2022 23:03

She Adam she's a saint.

So ask the childrens hospital, where theiir 3,5m for sick and dying children is?

ChuckBerrysBoots · 03/06/2022 23:38

His word did enough damage by itself. He admitted to head butting her. His assistants admitted to him kicking her (then tried to spin this as “placating her” while also alleging that they believed she was creating an ‘insurance dossier’ in readiness for divorce before they were even married - so why give her the written ammunition?). He admitted to frequently blacking out during his benders. He constantly apologised to her for going too far when under the influence. He’s as unreliable as she is in this scenario, probably more so. The donation thing is not the smoking gun so many people seemed to think it was given it was documented in 2021 at the time of Depp’s appeal against the UK decision and it was clear in both the original case and the appeal that it was not material.

i’ve gone back and forth on the case and think she overdid parts of her testimony which undermined her case. The logic of the US decision doesn’t make sense to
me but I expect the devil is in the detail of the wording of the claim. They’re both deeply flawed individuals in a toxic relationship, but the hero worship on social
media, especially by women, of a man who could speak in such misogynistic terms about his partners, and the mother of this children, absolutely baffles me.

Aspiringmatriarch · 03/06/2022 23:47

TiddyTidTwo · 03/06/2022 21:56

Aspiring I know your stance and I'll accept your patronising post as I believe we both, deep down agree.

Tiddy, I got quite cross with you on one of the other threads but I genuinely think this has triggered something for you that you might benefit from some help with. And I'm not saying that to be patronising.

Miscfeminista · 03/06/2022 23:58

AdamRyan · 03/06/2022 22:36

He is horrible and I can barely stand to look at him.
I'll be interested if his fans are so vocal in his next trial, or if that only happens when the complainant is female

Oh this. I honestly wish they polled or interviewed fervent Depp supporters on AH trial and then on trial about him punching the guy on set. Interestingly enough the rep or lawyer of that guy said something along lines”oh we have nothing to do with that trial of two people in toxic relationship this is another matter”🙄 tho that won’t be televised

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Onthedunes · 04/06/2022 00:12

I do believe Amber thought he was abusive and yes from the 2 hour audio tapes it's clear she's been trying to connect to him (the 2015 tape)

The thing is Amber knew what she was going after, she must have known he had problems with drink and drugs, I'm sure most people knew in Hollywood. For sure Johnny is a self entitled man who probably never grew up, these types of men tend to trade in models as they go along and I can imagine they would be the ones to pander to him. Amber expected more, her youth, beauty and inexperience demanded it.

I do think in the latter stages of their relationship he neglected her, he was a man with many friends and many talents and hobbies, a man who got bored easily I should imagine. It must have been hard for Amber to be with 'the adored Johnny' but she chose him knowing of his status. She became jealous of his fame and power and I think she played on his insecurity of sexual jealousy with others to get him back.

Very toxic, very immature and very unstable for both of them. It couldn't last, neither one wanting to back down or give in but I really think she believed he would not dump her.

He would escape from Amber, stonewalling, ignoring and neglecting and far better than just going in another room, he had the means to go anywhere, he was punishing her for not idolising him, she was attacking him for not prooving his love.

Each of their needs were not being met but I do think she was the first to cross the line and use physical violence during fights, he responded. A case of a very selfish man with narcisistic traits, and empathic traits, she a narcissist.

Amber I'm sure is a narcissist, she is lacking in the skills of seeing anyone elses point of view, even to the point she could not see her own rediculousness in the trial, no self awareness. She went too far though, you cannot destroy someones carreer, reputation and life, she knew full well what she was doing, it was purposeful and malicious.

This needed to be heard years ago in a criminal court , there was too much at stake for it to be heard in a civil court, what did she expect for him to lie down and accept this new narrative of him without question.
For her to continue accepting film roles on the back of being Johnny Depp's ex wife who was sexually abused, raped and battered by him.

Oh that's ok then without a fair and proper trial (and no I don't think this trial was the best option, but it was the only option for him).

I can't see this ending, Amber will be raging and she will get more bad advice on going forward. This is to the death.

Amber adopted a scorched earth policy on exit of the relationship, unfortunately the flames have had a backdraft effect and caught her.

Both their lives have been ruined in my opinion, both humiliated, truly awful.

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Miscfeminista · 04/06/2022 02:00

He started with physical attacks first I think that much we established by now. Not only did she not get that much more famous during time with him(she could have done without him, on contrary)but he basically used this trial to dig himself out of something she didn’t even cause

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Miscfeminista · 04/06/2022 03:39

Another one of indirect AH supporters I-googled-as-I-never-heard-of songs that seems to fit latest posts 😂

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TiddyTidTwo · 04/06/2022 05:03

@Aspiringmatriarch

Tiddy, I got quite cross with you on one of the other threads but I genuinely think this has triggered something for you that you might benefit from some help with. And I'm not saying that to be patronising.

Thank you. You are right. This case has triggered me. Sometimes I get angry, sometimes sad. I try very hard to see everyone's side and I am at a point I can engage and talk but can definitely put my foot in it sometimes.

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AdamRyan · 04/06/2022 09:06

Wouldn't you want global humiliation for someone who had physically abused you and then lied through their teeth and said you were the abuser?
No. That mindset is completely alien to me. I'd be content with a favourable divorce settlement and never speaking to them again.
Mind you, I also wouldn't go round talking about my exes the way Johnny does, or beating up my co workers or trashing rooms and smashing stuff up.

mummyrocks1 · 04/06/2022 09:20

Miscfeminista · 04/06/2022 02:00

He started with physical attacks first I think that much we established by now. Not only did she not get that much more famous during time with him(she could have done without him, on contrary)but he basically used this trial to dig himself out of something she didn’t even cause

We don't know he started with the physical attacks first, that's what she said. She also said she would never forget the first time he hit her but then got the date wrong.

I think we can definitely say being with him boosted her career though. It did loads for her career. She was pretty unknown before they got together and then she became pretty well known. As his wife though rather than as an actress in her own right. Now everyone is talking about her.

TiddyTidTwo · 04/06/2022 09:21

No I wouldn't do that either.

I can see JD did, in this case.

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ChuckBerrysBoots · 04/06/2022 09:44

It did loads for her career

With the exception of Aquaman, she had a handful of parts in small films in the time she was with him. He hardly set her off on a path to mega-stardom.

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