Johnny Depp has played a blinder

[bennetmoore]

Johnny Depp’s legal team really have played an absolute blinder. He probably won’t win the case as defamation trials are nigh on impossible to win in the USA but he’s ruined her life and so that’s a win for him. I don’t think she’s necessarily an angel but a woman having a fairly brash/mouthy personality does not mean violent retaliation from the man is justified, nor does she deserve to be raped by the man. And no, I don’t believe Johnny in his 50s with his fame, money and power was frightened or intimidated by an early 20s Amber. He wanted a young, blonde accessory girlfriend, a ‘bangmaid’, so to speak. That’s why he describes her withholding drugs from him during active withdrawal (and it was said that this is the recommend way to help the addict during withdrawal) as ‘cruel’.


I know intelligent, switched on women who have completely fallen for the ‘Amber is Satan’ bandwagon. A relative’s wife who was a child protection social worker for decades in the USA, Kentucky, explicitly said on Facebook “I don’t believe her, she doesn’t act like the many abuse victims I’ve seen.” I was stunned. She also shared a post written by a man describing how Amber’s baby needs to be removed from her, Amber doesn’t deserve to be a mother, speculating that Amber probably physically abused her daughter etc. Also petitions to have Amber’s baby removed from her, which I think is absolutely vile. This is an actual living child, not a prop for entertainment.


I think Johnny knows exactly what he is doing. His laughing in court is vile, it reminds me of my abusive ex laughing and belittling me. Watching the laughing and his smug was actually very triggering for me, and the way Amber became anxious in response. He made a huge deal about being absolutely gutted about not getting to say a ‘proper’ goodbye to the Jack Sparrow character. Again, I’m not convinced. He’s trying to get people to see him as their favourite movie character in an attempt to get them to sympathise with him, I can’t believe people are falling for it. I personally won’t be having Pirates Of the Caribbean on in my home again.

[EightRed]

YANBU OP.

It's not about them both being "as bad as each other". JD is twice her age and much more famous and influential. He's also a volatile drug addict. There was and is a massive power gap between them in JD's favour.

AH is possibly lying or laying it on thick or just sounding over rehearsed, and behaving in ways we don't accept socially. Looking at the court case, where she comes across as super weird and unlikeable, she is clearly the vulnerable one out of the two, whileJD seems awfully in control, cool about everything and very together.

I don't have to like the woman or find her believable. But I see a very obvious power imbalance. Don't just listen to what is being said, or in what tone, look at how it's all playing out. Who's got the upper hand? Who's got more public sympathy? Who is losing? JD has produced a reality TV show, in which AH is the metaphoric witch being tried in front of a world mob who hates her, it's quite scary.

[StooOrangeyForCrows]

@AdamRyan

Just posted this on another thread
medium.com/@hannahxsummers/the-assassination-of-amber-heard-a2e861ad5ded

I think he's clearly abusive, the more I see of it the more I think that.

This. I think they are both abusive. There's no way she would have come out with all that if there isn't a grain of truth.

Him moaning about her withholding his drugs until 4pm. He should not even have put her in that position! It's not a matter of merely detoxing. He needed and still probably needs years of counselling. He speaks as if he can get clean and sober for a few days, his problems are sorted.

They both have more issues than a scrap yard dog on a chain.

Her behaviour has been piss poor but living with him would drive any normal woman to absolute fucking frustrated distraction. He needed a nurse and a mother figure, not a wife. He has treated like anything else than a wife.

I bet she wishes she has walked away when he started shagging his old flame.
She was doing well for herself and there's no reason to think that wouldn't have continued.

[StooOrangeyForCrows]

The court case is him continuing to control, manipulate and hurt her.

[bennetmoore]

@ApertureGLaDOS

Yes, if you watch the trial with his ‘global humiliation’ text in mind, you can see right through him. The laughing and smugness, he’s getting his wish.

[DysonSphere]

Amber Heard deserves what she has sowed and reaped.

Not all women are telling the truth all of the time. And female initiated domestic violence happens.

I honestly don't know if it's just the case that being blonde and pretty adds automatic weight to everything a woman says, but I think judging by people defending her appalling behaviour, it's a real possibility.

And I used to - and did - defend her here very stridently in the beginning. Very. Biased because she was a woman and, I thought, it was more likely to be true than false.

Shame on me. Shame on anyone listening to her on tape and still buying her BS.

[AndSoTonight]

@ApertureGLaDOS

I just spend my whole time baffled by the complete support for him. He really is vile. That ‘global humiliation’ message for one. He’s documented, in absolutely disgusting terms, that he was going to humiliate and he really has.

www.newsweek.com/johnny-depp-total-global-humiliation-amber-heard-old-text-1704793?amp=1

All the ‘proof she lied’, and then quotes things that are verifiably wrong, like the ‘stole quotes in her testimony’ shit that keeps popping up. The ‘shit the bed’ - Johnny says so it’s true? Even though the Sun case so unlikely? Even though he wasn’t even staying there or going back to the bed but she was? Even if she said she didn’t?

And the redacted videos Johnny’s team shared (like the ‘tell the world, Johnny’ one, which actually the full version paints a different scene).

And there is proof he said he head butted her. Proof from Dueters he kicked her. Yet again… he’s still innocent? What the hell is going on with it?

I’m so with you OP.

There are definitely people intelligent enough to understand the case, they just don't seem to be a fixture on social media. Which you can appreciate given the amount of stupid out there. Exhausting, isn't it.

[bennetmoore]

@StooOrangeyForCrows

100% agreed. I think he is loving every minute. I can’t imagine laughing watching my abuser testify against me in court, I’d be scared shitless.

[bennetmoore]

Just look at the way people blatantly believed that Amber stole a movie quote for an opening statement that she never even did. People are absolutely rabid toward her.

And yes, “Tell the world Johnny that you are a male victim of domestic abuse.” is highly edited.

[AndSoTonight]

@DysonSphere

Amber Heard deserves what she has sowed and reaped.

Not all women are telling the truth all of the time. And female initiated domestic violence happens.

I honestly don't know if it's just the case that being blonde and pretty adds automatic weight to everything a woman says, but I think judging by people defending her appalling behaviour, it's a real possibility.

And I used to - and did - defend her here very stridently in the beginning. Very. Biased because she was a woman and, I thought, it was more likely to be true than false.

Shame on me. Shame on anyone listening to her on tape and still buying her BS.

You haven't grasped the case at all. JD is suing AH for defamation saying he has never been violent towards her. Yet it is proven that he has been.

It doesn't matter what you (or anyone else) thinks of AH, it is not a personality contest. All that needs to be established is that he is indeed an abuser. Case closed.

[ancientgran]

@AledsiPad

It is possible to both believe Amber Heard is an abusive piece of shit and Johnny Depp is an abusive piece of shit. Put together it's a circus, and that's what we are now seeing play out.

That's what I think, I don't know why it seems to have divided into two camps as they both seem capable of abuse. Maybe one is innocent but I don't see that as something that is clear.

[Thinkbiglittleone]

Wether she is likeable is irrelevant, it's wether she's credible that matters and with her being proved to be a liar, she lacks credibility.
Not every woman who says they have been raped, have been, fact. Should every woman get the chance for their claim to investigated, of course.
But you can't only tell half the story, that is then a lie, if you are an abuser, you need to be admitting that at the point of demonising abuse. There is proof she abused him, the messages of her following him etc admitting to hitting him, it's just all very toxic.

I think, watching her give evidence, it appears to be an act and she appears to be extremely unhinged.

Is he any better, no, but he deserves to put his case forward to dispel the narrative that she was the only being abused in that relationship, does he show him in a good light, absolutely not.

[Pumperthepumper]

She is abusive. That doesn’t mean she wasn’t raped.

[Autumnterm]

@AndSoTonight exactly

Hr quite clearly did abuse her. No amount of “she asked for it” “I’m a victim of abuse myself” can change that.

[AndSoTonight]

@Thinkbiglittleone

Wether she is likeable is irrelevant, it's wether she's credible that matters and with her being proved to be a liar, she lacks credibility.
Not every woman who says they have been raped, have been, fact. Should every woman get the chance for their claim to investigated, of course.
But you can't only tell half the story, that is then a lie, if you are an abuser, you need to be admitting that at the point of demonising abuse. There is proof she abused him, the messages of her following him etc admitting to hitting him, it's just all very toxic.

I think, watching her give evidence, it appears to be an act and she appears to be extremely unhinged.

Is he any better, no, but he deserves to put his case forward to dispel the narrative that she was the only being abused in that relationship, does he show him in a good light, absolutely not.

There is plenty of evidence of him being violent.

[Bubblesandsqueak1]

For all the hundreds of videos, photos and calls she recorded not 1 shows any abuse towards her directly, but plenty for her abuse to him, it takes a bitter twisted person to record someone passed out or injury and not get help her first response was to record him or photo him

[Tamzo85]

@Autumnterm

Is it really abuse if they both do it? Or just fighting?
Do most people even give a shit in that situation. I don’t.

[AndSoTonight]

@Autumnterm

@AndSoTonight exactly

Hr quite clearly did abuse her. No amount of “she asked for it” “I’m a victim of abuse myself” can change that.

Isn't it amazing how many people just cannot grasp that? It's like a global IQ test failed by 75% of the population.

[Tamzo85]

@Pumperthepumper

She is abusive, That doesn’t mean she wasn’t raped.

Doesnt mean she was either. The thing is no one should be believed 100% but many people give you no reason to think they might be capable of lying about something like that but with Amber, there is plenty of reason to think she’s a liar and plenty of motivation for her to lie about it.

Doesn’t mean it didn’t happen 100, but it does give people pause.

[SlatsandFlaps]

@Pixiedust1234

They are as bad as each other. Toxic, liars. Just leave them be and let them get on with it. Nobody knows what really happened, probably not even them in their drug and alcohol fuelled states.

He is NOWHERE NEAR as bad as she is! She's absolutely destroyed his life and his reputation but because he's a man, it's "both as bad as each other" 🤦🏼‍♀️

If it was a woman, it'd be "I hope that poor woman can heal from that monster"

[QuotetheLaw]

@Pumperthepumper

She is abusive. That doesn’t mean she wasn’t raped.

It also doesn't mean she was. There is no evidence to substantiate her allegations.

[SlatsandFlaps]

@Pumperthepumper

You can be a victim of abuse and a perpetrator of it. Jonny Depp is both.

It's called reactive abuse - educate yourself!!

He hasn't ever hit her. You clearly haven't watched the trial properly

[AndSoTonight]

@QuotetheLaw

It also doesn't mean she was. There is no evidence to substantiate her allegations.

and what "substance" would you imagine a wife would have of being raped by her (proven to be abusive) husband?

[Cailleach1]

Was it Amber's he wrote that he wanted to burn, or Vanessa? And then do necrophilia on.

The content of JD writing that were broadcast, weren't they?

[LarryBlackmonsCodpiece]

A circus, the case is already having repercussions worldwide, it should not be aired. This world is disgusting, stop fighting each other over other people fighting each other, divide & rule is so in full force lately, I despair, the only people winning here are the media & lawyers.

[QuotetheLaw]

@AndSoTonight from a legal perspective, If there is no evidence, you cannot convict or uphold those allegations simply based upon one word against the other.