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Johnny Depp has played a blinder

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bennetmoore · 10/05/2022 16:36

Johnny Depp’s legal team really have played an absolute blinder. He probably won’t win the case as defamation trials are nigh on impossible to win in the USA but he’s ruined her life and so that’s a win for him. I don’t think she’s necessarily an angel but a woman having a fairly brash/mouthy personality does not mean violent retaliation from the man is justified, nor does she deserve to be raped by the man. And no, I don’t believe Johnny in his 50s with his fame, money and power was frightened or intimidated by an early 20s Amber. He wanted a young, blonde accessory girlfriend, a ‘bangmaid’, so to speak. That’s why he describes her withholding drugs from him during active withdrawal (and it was said that this is the recommend way to help the addict during withdrawal) as ‘cruel’.

I know intelligent, switched on women who have completely fallen for the ‘Amber is Satan’ bandwagon. A relative’s wife who was a child protection social worker for decades in the USA, Kentucky, explicitly said on Facebook “I don’t believe her, she doesn’t act like the many abuse victims I’ve seen.” I was stunned. She also shared a post written by a man describing how Amber’s baby needs to be removed from her, Amber doesn’t deserve to be a mother, speculating that Amber probably physically abused her daughter etc. Also petitions to have Amber’s baby removed from her, which I think is absolutely vile. This is an actual living child, not a prop for entertainment.

I think Johnny knows exactly what he is doing. His laughing in court is vile, it reminds me of my abusive ex laughing and belittling me. Watching the laughing and his smug was actually very triggering for me, and the way Amber became anxious in response. He made a huge deal about being absolutely gutted about not getting to say a ‘proper’ goodbye to the Jack Sparrow character. Again, I’m not convinced. He’s trying to get people to see him as their favourite movie character in an attempt to get them to sympathise with him, I can’t believe people are falling for it. I personally won’t be having Pirates Of the Caribbean on in my home again.

OP posts:
Pumperthepumper · 10/05/2022 17:23

They’re saying they don’t believe she was raped because she’s unlikeable.

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 10/05/2022 17:25

Pumperthepumper · 10/05/2022 17:23

They’re saying they don’t believe she was raped because she’s unlikeable.

No they really aren't. They are giving you reasons as to why people would doubt her claims.

Pumperthepumper · 10/05/2022 17:25

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 10/05/2022 17:25

No they really aren't. They are giving you reasons as to why people would doubt her claims.

That’s the same thing.

MyneighbourisTotoro · 10/05/2022 17:26

Also what about her assistant saying she stole her rape story?

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 10/05/2022 17:27

Pumperthepumper · 10/05/2022 17:25

That’s the same thing.

It's no the same thing at all. My god.

User3568975431146 · 10/05/2022 17:28

I believe him over her 100%. She's an obvious nightmare and although no one is perfect I think she's gone out to ruin him because she's so messed up, not because he's been abusive to her. I've seen that type of personality disordered person before.

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 10/05/2022 17:28

MyneighbourisTotoro · 10/05/2022 17:26

Also what about her assistant saying she stole her rape story?

Nope. Doesn't matter. She said the word rape so she has got to 100% be believed.....!

Pumperthepumper · 10/05/2022 17:30

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 10/05/2022 17:27

It's no the same thing at all. My god.

It’s exactly the same. Unless you took ‘reasons to doubt her claims’ to mean something else?

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 10/05/2022 17:31

Pumperthepumper · 10/05/2022 17:30

It’s exactly the same. Unless you took ‘reasons to doubt her claims’ to mean something else?

I said reasons to doubt her claims not the other poster.

Nothing to do with being unlikable.

Pumperthepumper · 10/05/2022 17:32

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 10/05/2022 17:31

I said reasons to doubt her claims not the other poster.

Nothing to do with being unlikable.

I know you said it.

What are those reasons then? If not a list of her bad personality traits?

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 10/05/2022 17:33

Pumperthepumper · 10/05/2022 17:32

I know you said it.

What are those reasons then? If not a list of her bad personality traits?

Read my other posts. I've already told you.

Pumperthepumper · 10/05/2022 17:35

This is very circular now.

That poster was absolutely using Amber Heard’s unlikeability as a reason to ‘doubt her claims’.

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 10/05/2022 17:37

Pumperthepumper · 10/05/2022 17:35

This is very circular now.

That poster was absolutely using Amber Heard’s unlikeability as a reason to ‘doubt her claims’.

She is a proven liar. That is reason enough to 'doubt her claims'. It is not hard to understand why people are 'doubting the claims' of a proven liar

Yes. You don't need to respond to me again. Have a nice evening.

MyneighbourisTotoro · 10/05/2022 17:38

@Pumperthepumper like I said earlier in the post, one reason to doubt her is that her assistant is saying Amber used her own experience of rape as her personal narrative in this case. Many people witnessed her abuse him, the specific make up she was said to carry in her purse to hide bruises wasn’t even available yet, the video/photographic/recorded evidence of her abusing him.
what actual evidence is there of him abusing her other than her word?

Pumperthepumper · 10/05/2022 17:38

Pumperthepumper · 10/05/2022 17:21

Here @AllThingsServeTheBeam

That’s not what that post said though.

LowlandLucky · 10/05/2022 17:38

*@AllThingsServeTheBeam Not every woman that claims to have been raped is telling the truth. My Stepdaughter accused a young lad she knew of raping her. She was adamant of the date and time which was seemingly a week before. She went into great detail of where, when and how. The Police asked her time and time again if she was sure and she was adamant. The young lad had been in Spain with his parents at the time it was all supposed to have happened. She was a liar that could have ruined a young lads life.

ittakes2 · 10/05/2022 17:39

OP you are making your own assumptions while criticising others for making their own assumptions??
We’ll never know the truth and it’s not our place to decide it based on either of their court room performances.
I am also a sexual assault survivor - I don’t assume any one is guilty just because of their age, sex and financial status.

Pumperthepumper · 10/05/2022 17:40

LowlandLucky · 10/05/2022 17:38

*@AllThingsServeTheBeam Not every woman that claims to have been raped is telling the truth. My Stepdaughter accused a young lad she knew of raping her. She was adamant of the date and time which was seemingly a week before. She went into great detail of where, when and how. The Police asked her time and time again if she was sure and she was adamant. The young lad had been in Spain with his parents at the time it was all supposed to have happened. She was a liar that could have ruined a young lads life.

Would it have been better if nobody believed her from the beginning?

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 10/05/2022 17:40

LowlandLucky · 10/05/2022 17:38

*@AllThingsServeTheBeam Not every woman that claims to have been raped is telling the truth. My Stepdaughter accused a young lad she knew of raping her. She was adamant of the date and time which was seemingly a week before. She went into great detail of where, when and how. The Police asked her time and time again if she was sure and she was adamant. The young lad had been in Spain with his parents at the time it was all supposed to have happened. She was a liar that could have ruined a young lads life.

You're preaching to the converted here. I think you've tagged the wrong person. Unless you were agreeing with me?

Unsure33 · 10/05/2022 17:41

Pumperthepumper · 10/05/2022 17:00

@AllThingsServeTheBeam because it’s important to believe women who say that they’ve been raped. Have you seen how low the conviction rate is for rape?

But perhaps that is what she is counting on. So are you saying if it is all one big lie and she has ruined his life that it is justified ?

women lie , men lie .

the important thing is to get to the truth and in a civil case where the burden of proof is less that probably won’t happen .

if she is capable of giving evidence like she did then he should be in a criminal court and he should be in jail .

I think there is one good reason why she is not .

Trafficblight · 10/05/2022 17:41

They both seem horrendous, sounds like it was an utterly toxic relationship where they both brought out the very worst of eachother. They should both have work taken from them, as is only he has but I'm sure her career is also finished now.

SmiledWtherisingsun · 10/05/2022 17:41

I think they are both awful.
But, just because she has a personality disorder, it doesn't mean he didn't rape her does it?!
His laughing in court is vile.
His messages to Paul Bettany are horrific.
I wish it wasn't being televised.

AllThingsServeTheBeam · 10/05/2022 17:42

Pumperthepumper · 10/05/2022 17:40

Would it have been better if nobody believed her from the beginning?

Oh my gosh. People have obviously believed Amber or this whole pissing situation wouldn't be occurring now would it? But now it's all out their with lies and stories and bullshit from both sides is it that hard to understand why people don't believe her now?!?! Jesus Mary and Joseph and the wee donkey

BlanketsBanned · 10/05/2022 17:43

She has been badly let down by her legal team, they are absolutely hopeless and becoming a laughing stock. What is amica cream? They just seem to be grasping at straws now.

Unsure33 · 10/05/2022 17:44

I also know a girl who accused her stepfather of abusing her and it was lies from start to finish. Luckily the police were able to check the facts and quite quickly dismiss the case . She has continued to lie about everything and has lost her children through it .

but as a woman of course I believe that women should be taken seriously and every case should be investigated , that does not mean that every person should be “ believed “ without exception . That would be ridiculous .

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