Johnny Depp has played a blinder

[bennetmoore]

Johnny Depp’s legal team really have played an absolute blinder. He probably won’t win the case as defamation trials are nigh on impossible to win in the USA but he’s ruined her life and so that’s a win for him. I don’t think she’s necessarily an angel but a woman having a fairly brash/mouthy personality does not mean violent retaliation from the man is justified, nor does she deserve to be raped by the man. And no, I don’t believe Johnny in his 50s with his fame, money and power was frightened or intimidated by an early 20s Amber. He wanted a young, blonde accessory girlfriend, a ‘bangmaid’, so to speak. That’s why he describes her withholding drugs from him during active withdrawal (and it was said that this is the recommend way to help the addict during withdrawal) as ‘cruel’.

I know intelligent, switched on women who have completely fallen for the ‘Amber is Satan’ bandwagon. A relative’s wife who was a child protection social worker for decades in the USA, Kentucky, explicitly said on Facebook “I don’t believe her, she doesn’t act like the many abuse victims I’ve seen.” I was stunned. She also shared a post written by a man describing how Amber’s baby needs to be removed from her, Amber doesn’t deserve to be a mother, speculating that Amber probably physically abused her daughter etc. Also petitions to have Amber’s baby removed from her, which I think is absolutely vile. This is an actual living child, not a prop for entertainment.

I think Johnny knows exactly what he is doing. His laughing in court is vile, it reminds me of my abusive ex laughing and belittling me. Watching the laughing and his smug was actually very triggering for me, and the way Amber became anxious in response. He made a huge deal about being absolutely gutted about not getting to say a ‘proper’ goodbye to the Jack Sparrow character. Again, I’m not convinced. He’s trying to get people to see him as their favourite movie character in an attempt to get them to sympathise with him, I can’t believe people are falling for it. I personally won’t be having Pirates Of the Caribbean on in my home again.

Yes, it is. They’re both abusive but we should only believe him? Why?

They have been totally shambolic. I wouldn't be surprised if she didn't get the verdict overturned on the fact her legal team were utterly useless if he did end up winning

So would it have been better to not believe her from the beginning?

She's such an obvious liar I can't even get through these clips I keep seeing. Urgh so cringe.

Where have I said that? Where?

All I am saying is I don't understand how you were surprised people didn't believe her with all the lies.

I'm not saying I believe or disbelieve either of them. I couldn't care less if I am honest. But I am not going to say that she should 100% be believed over him just because she said rape

Again.. where has the poster said that?!?

I don’t believe he has played a blinder at all because it’s a civil case and it will be extremely hard for him to win , even though she has admitted being violent and abusive to him.

if he does not win the damage has still be done .

and the times he smiled I think it was because of the ridiculous objections to every single question to the stage that he did not know what he was allowed to answer , plus some of the questions have been pretty stupid . Plus if you knew someone was blatantly telling lies and had just probably tripped themselves up then I think you would perhaps see the ridiculous situation for what it is .

Oh I’ve never disagreed that she is generally a horrible person who has acted in an abusive manner.

But I take issue with Johnny being portrayed as a cuddly teddy bear. The U.K. courts clearly stated that he was absolutely an abuser.

People are ripping Amber apart for claiming to be frightened upon coming across Johnny passed out next to a load of empty alcohol bottles. Because how could a passed out man be scary? As somebody who had an abusive alcoholic ex, I 100% remember walking in on ex passed out drunk and my heart sinking, terrified of him waking up.

His laughing in court is absolutely pathetic, I don’t like it one bit.

There is so much toxicity in your post that it's difficult to know where to begin.

The way you lump all personality disorders in with offensive behaviours, your presumption to know her personality (I mean, this is just laughable), your presumption to know how a victim "should" act...

If anything, this whole disaster has shown just how ignorant and unpleasant so many people are. Bit like covid, really.

No history of abuse with previous partners does not mean it won't happen in the future.

Didn't a UK judge see sufficient evidence in 12 out of 14 claims of his being violent towards her? So, it's been ruled in court that yes, he has been abusive.

And this is somewhat a separate issue but I think it’s horrendous people are calling for her baby to be taken away from her.

It is just where posters are implying that all women should be believed automatically .

apologies if I used wrong quote .

you can’t just assume every woman is incapable of telling lies just because they are a woman . That’s my point .

I agree with everything you say OP. Some people should know better.

@AllThingsServeTheBeam instead of asking me the same thing over and over again, why don’t you just read the posts?

If both of those posters know someone who made false accusations, surely the logic is we should pick and choose which cases to investigate?

That is a pretty big accusation to make.

First of all you say it was a "girl", then you say "she lost her children over it". The two cannot be correct.

And how do you "check facts" wrt a stepdaughter's complaint of abuse? There is literally no evidence in most cases.

Your whole post sounds like third-hand malicious gossip.

Familial abuse cases are incredibly difficult to bring to trial but that does not mean they are without merit.

Maybe you are the stepfather's friend.

@AndSoTonight

Usually when somebody refers to a grown woman as a ‘girl’, the rest of their statement tends to be misogynistic shit.

The way many people are desperate to defend him is quite frightening. You may not believe her, but the stuff he himself admits to is bad enough.

When has a genuine abused high-profiled woman in society ever been showered with the absolute affection and fan obsession as Johnny Depp has? It’s utterly bizarre.

I think there should be some scrutiny applied to her, if she was violent towards him and other partners they should check her child is safe. But yes I agree he is also a nasty and vile person and the media is very skewed. I think we have come to expect and tolerate a certain level of misogyny and stuff from men- those texts were disgusting but didn't really seem to bother a lot of people. How sad.

As a former victim of DA myself and one who’s worked in the area to an extent SHE is the one who is appearing to follow “the abuser script” He’s not.

I hate that I don’t believe her, but I don’t. I’m not saying he was whiter than white, and addicts do behave appallingly, but it’s abuse when there is a motive to control or belittle and I don’t see that he had that motive, but she appears to.

He’s a “known” quantity having had long term relationships and been Famous. He doesn’t have the relationship testimonies to back up her version of events

same can’t be said for her

Watching the trial is like the Twilight Zone. People turning up to the trial with therapy alpacas, WTAF. This is a grown man who is a known addict with known violent tendencies, not Jesus.

I truly believed every accusation when they first came out, but since then every audio clip I have heard of them has repeatedly been of JD trying to get away from AH and her escalating fights and accusing him of not wanting to be with her. She point blank told him that it was cowedly of him to withdraw in an argument to stop it from getting physical.

The audio of the doctor and nurse searching for JD's finger tip is just wild, but also clear that the people around them wanted to try and separate them for their own safety and again it is AH who is going against that. The doctor even considers who to send with AH, because it needs to be someone she won't be able to physically intimidate.

I believe JD would be a lousy husband, the drug use, alcohol dependency brings a lot of monotony and I do believe he would leave AH feeling very lonely. But I do think that she repeatedly initiated physical abuse on him.

Here's the link to the doctor searching for JD's finger:

Oh the irony of you pointing out I'm asking you things twice haha.

I'm having my tea now and will not be responding again.

Brilliant talking to you. It's been an absolute blast.

I know this 100% it's the other pp you need to address

I just spend my whole time baffled by the complete support for him. He really is vile. That ‘global humiliation’ message for one. He’s documented, in absolutely disgusting terms, that he was going to humiliate and he really has.

www.newsweek.com/johnny-depp-total-global-humiliation-amber-heard-old-text-1704793?amp=1

All the ‘proof she lied’, and then quotes things that are verifiably wrong, like the ‘stole quotes in her testimony’ shit that keeps popping up. The ‘shit the bed’ - Johnny says so it’s true? Even though the Sun case so unlikely? Even though he wasn’t even staying there or going back to the bed but she was? Even if she said she didn’t?

And the redacted videos Johnny’s team shared (like the ‘tell the world, Johnny’ one, which actually the full version paints a different scene).

And there is proof he said he head butted her. Proof from Dueters he kicked her. Yet again… he’s still innocent? What the hell is going on with it?

I’m so with you OP.