Female students are being injected now with date rape drugs in nightclubs

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I won't post the Facebook post I saw because its on a forum but apparently there have been several reported incidents of students in Exeter nightclubs being injected in the back (not by people they are with) while out. The newspapers really need to get on this story and nightclubs who are reportedly batting back complaints saying that the women are just drunk need to deal with this criminality on their premises. We are not prey.

@SpindelWhorl I've responded to the article at least twice I think. The article does not support the idea that there is a mass effort to target women with injections across the UK, nor does it prove that an incident has been confirmed in Nottingham.

Yeah I saw it had been posted not that people are listening to you, I tried to delete my comment but no idea how and maybe people need to see it twice to listen!!

People on this site honestly have their head in the sand if they cant comprehend this is actually happening.

@Hettyhetty

People on this site honestly have their head in the sand if they cant comprehend this is actually happening.

People on this site lack critical thinking and comprehensive reading skills.

@SisterJude

What's the point of putting a ring on the finger? What does that achieve? I don't get it. Probably because it's made up bullshit.

Well, one person does the injecting and an accomplice waits outside for a staggering; dazed person. And the ring is the identifying mark.

To be honest, I’m inclined to say this is an “I believe you” type situation. Dismissing it as young (feminine) hysteria or similar seems, well, a bit unsisterly.

It could be that people are injecting/pricking others with some kind of sedative/poison. It could be that this is a scare campaign (e.g. stab someone with a needle). It could be a combination of the two.

It could even been some kind of nutters who think that young people need some kind of lesson re vaccination/socialising during a pandemic.

And as for it being unlikely that it’s real due it popping up at the same time in different places, well how about the incel movement? They seem pretty well networked with one another online. It could be that kind of terrorist co-ordination, particularly if some of their members are also at or starting university too.

But basically to start off with default disbelief seems all too similar to how rape/sexual assault victims are treated generally.

It’s funny how the same article keeps getting posted over and over and over again as if it is some kind of gotcha despite posters having clearly pointed out the limitations of what it proves.

It’s also funny how despite this supposedly happening repeatedly all over the country there don’t seem to be a corresponding number of newspaper reports.

Perhaps the point is that there's a difference between the definition of (a) an 'urban myth', and (b) a BBC news report (even if the BBC report is later updated or significantly amended with further breaking developments).

There's obviously also a complex dialectic going on but hey. Hysteria.

And as for it being unlikely that it’s real due it popping up at the same time in different places, well how about the incel movement? They seem pretty well networked with one another online. It could be that kind of terrorist co-ordination, particularly if some of their members are also at or starting university too
But basically to start off with default disbelief seems all too similar to how rape/sexual assault victims are treated generally

Bollocks.

This is all about ignoring/deflecting from the reality of sexual violence - which that it is overwhelmingly committed by men known to the victim and in domestic settings. Thousands of young, female students will be raped or sexually assaulted this year. Almost all of the assaults will take place in student accommodation. Where is the fuss about that? Why aren't we demanding that MPs and the police act?

Nope, instead let's amplify girls' fears of exploring the outside world and encourage them to believe that they need to stay at home to stay safe 🙄

This injection story is a direct descendant of the 'white slavery' (what we would call people trafficking) scares of the 1800s. Like all successful urban myths, there will be a grain of truth somewhere. Probably some arseholes have stuck needles in women in a club. Possibly (but unlikely) someone has actually been injected with a drug. But the idea that there is an organised incel movement mass-injecting women in nightclubs is nothing but lunacy. And those of you who are buying into it are doing nothing to help young women be safer - you are just stoking fear.

I say again, as I have said above - if you really care about young women's safety, campaign against intimate partner violence and acquaintance rape. But I guess that doesn't give you the same cheap thrills.

And a myth, in case that wasn’t clear.

It was clear.

My niece has what a doctor has confirmed as a puncture mark on her skin. She became very 'drunk' very quickly at a club the other night, so much so her friends were surprised and concerned and she was ill for several days. She has had blood tests and the Police have taken a report & confirmed they have had other reports.

Police Scotland have also confirmed other reports & are asking people to contact them if it happens to them so they seem to be taking it seriously

It's disappointing to see so many people on here being so dismissive

Nope, instead let's amplify girls' fears of exploring the outside world and encourage them to believe that they need to stay at home to stay safe 🙄

Yep, this is all about controlling young women.
Scaring them into not wanting to leave the home, and keeping them hidden away.

Well, one person does the injecting and an accomplice waits outside for a staggering; dazed person. And the ring is the identifying mark.

🤣

@MissLucyEyelesbarrow I do not hat type or campaigning. And I will always start from a place of belief rather than dismissal.

I’d rather be wrong than dismiss someone who has been hurt.

*I do that type of campaigning.

@MissLucyEyelesbarrow And if you had actually read my post to understand rather than respond, you would have noticed I mentioned scare tactics as a possible motivation.

However, it is also true that it’s a waste of time to argue with those with those who have no intention of trying to understand, so with that, I’m out.

[quote CatKittyCatCatKittyCatCat]@MissLucyEyelesbarrow I do not hat type or campaigning. And I will always start from a place of belief rather than dismissal.

I’d rather be wrong than dismiss someone who has been hurt.[/quote]
But it’s not people telling us this has happened to them who are being disbelieved. It’s third parties and people who have read a newspaper article.
And there’s a big step between believing someone was stabbed with a needle in a club and believing they were the victim of an organised trafficking ring that started acting simultaneously in student nightclubs all over the Uk.

I live in a university town, people do not need to drug people to get them to pass out, in freshers week they even have street carers to collect those who pass out in the streer unconscious from drink.

As with all of these kind of things probably one ow two cases, which are then everyone who gets absolutely blind drunk then uses as an excuse. So called "date rape" drugs are rarely involved when the person thinks they are, what is almost the case is excess drink, usually spirit, or spirit Mixers in a short period of time.

Indeed, Matilda.
And someone being in a state where they end up being taken to hospital is also not evidence drugs were involved- other than alcohol, at least.

Wanted to add that most Emergency Departments in the UK don't do toxicology testing so anyone bought in 'out of it' will probably never know what the cause was once recovered.

It has all the hallmarks of an urban legend. If it's true it is uncannily similar to other well documented myths. Authorities commenting doesn't change that - police have given warnings before about things which turned out to be urban myths.

A scruffy woman in her mid 30s tried to get her away from her boyfriend outside the club and into a car. It's probably a very organised type of crime where the lady is being paid to find girls who will later be beaten/raped (the hospital said this so I'm not making it up).

Oh good, the bullshit human trafficking angle has started. Utter nonsense.

As if a media report proves it’s not an urban myth.
Elements could be true, but the package being presented here is clearly misinformation and rumour.

Oh good, the bullshit human trafficking angle has started. Utter nonsense

Indeed.

I'm a piece of shit bloke, wanting to rape a student. I could:

A) Go to a club. Pick out a girl who's already a bit drunk (legal). Get her more pissed (legal). Take her home consensually (legal). Pressure her into sex in private, with no witnesses or accomplices.

B) Enter into a conspiracy to rape with an accomplice (illegal and creates a witness). Obtain controlled drugs (illegal and expensive). Go to a club. Assault someone with a syringe (illegal and extremely obvious). Despite having drawn my victim's attention to my plans by sticking a sharp object in her, I will then somehow abduct her from the club with my accomplice (illegal and difficult - and it's all going to be on CCTV) and then rape her.

But, yeah, option B is going to be every criminal's choice.

Exactly, it’s sadly very easy to rape.

So clearly my niece must have made it up and presumably injected herself with something just to try and add credibility to her story

I find it really disheartening that this of all forums is dismissing this. So much for 'I believe you'