So instead of women having to register their route home…

[Ozgirl75]

I see the new idea to keep women “safe” (or maybe just to be able to find their murdered body more easily?) an app has been suggested so that women put in their route and if they’re late, a call goes to the police.
So, what about instead of that, men have to register their route before they go out - and if they go “off route” an alert is sent and they’re arrested.
Also, how about 2-3 nights a week, men have a curfew. Any man out after 8pm has to have a female chaperone, or if they’re at work, they have a permit and have to register their route.
Women have done the heavy lifting on keeping themselves safe for ages, how about we do some proper stuff to affect men for a change?
I don’t have answers for violence in the home - but maybe instead of blaming women and expecting them to constantly change their behaviour, men could do something.
This is somewhat tongue in cheek although the more I think about it, the more I think it should happen. Women are already mainly under a voluntary evening curfew, so how about we flip this.

Yes I do think the same for women, it won’t resolve the issue

@SecondSister33

Yes I do think the same for women, it won’t resolve the issue

And the rest of that post?

Can you not see the point being made?

Bugger all to do with the efficacy of the supposed fix...

What is the point you are trying to make to me ?

@CBUK2K

Women commit the majority of infanticide, I suggest any woman looking after a child has a male chaperone to prevent this from happening.

Women commit significantly more theft than men so we should also have male chaperones for them entering a shop.

They are nearly 3 times as likely as man to commit fraud so we should probably ban them from having any access to any means of doing so.

Others have already dealt with the shoplifting lies/stupidity (unclear which? is it both?) The lie about fraud is similar - two thirds of convicted fraudsters are men. www.gov.uk/government/statistics/women-and-the-criminal-justice-system-2019/women-and-the-criminal-justice-system-2019

so I'll just point out that even if women commit infanticide in absolute numbers more than men (which I doubt, but I refuse to spend more than 2mins Googling to disprove someone who's already proved himself a shameless liar twice over) that men commit infanticide in vastly greater numbers per hour of infant care so this oh-so-clever suggestion would result in a lot more infant deaths, as well as a lot more fraud and a lot more shoplifting.

@SecondSister33

What is the point you are trying to make to me ?

Oops! That I mistook you and compounded it with a second reply!

Ignore me. I read through too quickly and didn't read usernames properly.

My apologies!

A town in a South American country had a male curfew for a period of time. Apparently during those nights crimes didn’t happen. I haven’t got the time to get more info now, but I read about it a couple of years ago (hence the huge lack of detail),

The figures don't matter,

lol

I'd bet the figures matter to that poster if women get them wrong. I'd be mortified if I'd made an error like that, I'd be all 'sorry, my mistake '. I wouldn't just say they don't matter - even if they didn't in that context, that's the sort of misinformation liable to be c&pd by idiots with an agenda.

[quote CBUK2K]@allmywhat The figures don't matter, what matters is the fundamental principle of being innocent until proven guilty. Some women are seriously suggesting this crap.[/quote]
Women and girls should trust every man in every single situation until they do something to show they shouldn't be trusted.

Great advice thanks!

Women getting attacked by men while out and about is a choice. And the figures don't matter.

Surely it's the men who attack women are are making the choice, not the women :/ The women (and girls) are just going about their days.

If women want to choose not to be attacked they can stay at home.

Interesting.

How do we choose not to be attacked walking 5 mins to the pub?

How do girls choose not to cross the paths of dodgy (or worse) men while walking home from school?

[quote CBUK2K]@CuriousaboutSamphire If you think it is just this board that incessantly spreads gender and identity politics to you must live in a cave, look at how women are now being treated with trans rights and this is what feminists have been doing to men for decades.

You judge every man as a predator, would you be OK if the world assumed you were a sex worker because some women are?[/quote]
Let's see. I can't make any sense of this

Women here aren't doing anything for or with trans rights. You can repeat that as often as you like. It only goes to further proves that you cannot, or will not, read what women here have actually written and do them the common courtesy of believing a single word of it!

Women are saying no to an incursion upon and an erosion of female rights. Rights that have been slowly built to protect women from patriarchal discrimination and the very day sexism and violence of men - that is the class of men, men being the single cohort responsible for more than 90% of all violence against women and girls.

If you cannot acknowledge the physical, biological disadvantage of the female body then we have nothing more to say to each other.

If you believe that the wrods of women about men are as violent and damaging as the violence, sexual and otherweise of men against women then, again, we have nothing more to say to each other.

If you cannot see that most women, at some time of their lives, days, must risk assess their environment and, in the absence of enraged bull on the loose, a man walking down the street has to be assessed. Then yet again, we have nothing more to say to each other.

Because no man carries a neon sign, signed by a judge, to verify their 'Good Man' status, how the fuck can any woman know which man she can remove from her risk assessment?

Sex worker? Well, if men didn';t think that it is all fine and dandy to buy a woman's body then there would be no need to worry about that either.

But, taking your question as written, do you not think that that is precisely why women have to assess every man they pass? Far too many men do think that every woman they see is there for their sexual gratification - whether for passing sexualised comments, wolf whistle, grabbing, leering etc. Some men do have that mind set...

Even when you think you have a pijnt to make all you prove is that you cannot percevie the world from a woman's persepctive!

Oh, and again - how to you excuse Incels?

[quote CBUK2K]@HoardingSamphireSaurus Offering a tool for women to CHOOSE to share their location with others is very very different to suggestions men should be somehow tagged and forced to share their activities or even have a curfew.

The default response that women stay at home etc is crap on two levels:

1. They CHOOSE to stay at home/share locations etc.
2. Men also do this, there are parts of every town/city where most men would not go at certain times of day either - again they CHOOSE.[/quote] Lets see...

A man designed it, a group of men discussed it! It seemed like a good idea (yeah, let's track all the women then we can know where to find the bodies!) Nobody shouted and screamed at that.

Suggest that the same is done for men... and look, here you are!

You don't seem to be capable of listening, or applying critical thinking.

The default response that they way to reduce male violence on women is to monitor women is ludicrous - ON ALL LEVELS.

Your point 2 is interesting. Men won't go to some places because, well, erm, other men make it dangerous!

Oh my... did you not think that one through?

App sounds like a hacker's paradise.

Also- what if you decide to nip into the 24/7 shop a couple of streets away for milk but forget to update your route?

Or think...hmm might just change tack and go a different way as there's a man behind me who might be dodgy...but I don't want to stop to update my route as he'll get closer to me...but he's probably harmless...don't want to cause a fuss by changing the plan...maybe will just ignore my instinct and stick to the route...

But the 'bad' men won't register. Yes, of course males shouldn't be violent, rape etc but some of them do, unfortunately. Therefore I need to do things that I shouldn't need to do to keep myself safe from the bad ones. Ie, this app.

brilliant post at 11:58 by hoardingsamphiresaurus. Thank you.

I wish my arthritic fat fingers were more accurate and that I had proof read it more thoroughly though!!

Personally I think we need a penis license. Men should do a theory test to show that they understand how to behave in public and how to operate their penis responsibly. They can't go out after dark unless they have the penis license.

A bit like the old dog license, or a driving license, or the citizenship test

I like that idea. The theory test would show up what their general attitude towards women was - whether they think of us as objects for their gratification (not necessarily just sexual gratification) or actual humans in our own right.

Yes great idea. We can then know which ones think all women are prostitutes and which ones enjoy surprising women in the bedroom with their predilection for throttling and slapping.

Yep. AND it could be like work h&s training. Men who have it can't claim they didn't know throttling could easily kill someone, therefore sentences for choking women to death could be higher.

CBUK2K
*The default response that women stay at home etc is crap on two levels:

1. They CHOOSE to stay at home/share locations etc.
2. Men also do this, there are parts of every town/city where most men would not go at certain times of day either - again they CHOOSE.*

I work in a large city centre hospital. Female staff have been sexually assaulted while moving around the hospital. They have no choice as its their job! Maybe those doctors, nurses and others should choose to stay home and be safe You refuse to accept that ALL women are at risk of assault/murder and seem affronted that we don't trust men as a group.