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Typical gaslighting of feminists: 'You are responsible for the invasion of Afghanistan!'

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Aparallaxia · 18/08/2021 18:35

www.thenation.com/article/world/white-feminists-wanted-to-invade/

This to me sounds like a right-winger just wanted to find something else to blame feminists for. Bush, Cheney and their gang didn't need another justification for the invasion of Afghanistan. It was the invasion of Iraq that they needed to justify, in 2003. These particular 'white feminists' may have been rich and privileged, but millions of other women in the US fully supported bringing Afghan women out of the dark ages. If the US messed up the reform of the country, how is that our fault?

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idkkkk · 17/09/2021 22:15

@Hotcoffee10

Posted too soon. But it doesn’t make it less like slavery. Moral relativism can get lost, I’m with Dervel on this one.
Yes, so you enjoying murdering children and dropping bombs on weddings to impose your regressive moralistic framework on the brown and the black man, and then talk about how you are enslaved, somehow, somewhere.

Anyway, you've not dealt with any of the pointers. Your morality is democratic, it is NOT objective. Do you understand the implication of that statement ? This argument refutes your entire premise. You have no claim to absolutism when your own morality is relative. You are a moral relativist when it serves you and revolves around your own cultural systems but averse to all else having values different to yours.

idkkkk · 17/09/2021 22:21

@Tealightsandd

I don't think colonialism (whichever regime or country of the many many involved over the centuries including Ottoman and British) has much to do with the treatment and rights of women and girls. What country or regime has treated women well? Worldwide, under many different regimes, women have suffered. Domestic violence and rape happens in every society. It's a global problem.
Ottomons where not colonialists, they were imperialists - huge difference. And why limit the scope to women only? suffering is a human problem, heck, it is an existential issue. We all suffer in one form or another, it is an intrinsic facet of life.
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