Launch of GB News - Sunday at 8pm

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I think this will be interesting. I'm actually quite keen to hear from Michelle Dewberry.

I'm not big on ex-Apprentice winners but I remember her and appreciated her tweet about being a mother.

twitter.com/michelledewbs/status/1400721389854810114?s=21

I'm also a bit sick of the BBC tbh and I'm for variety in broadcasting so will see what it's like.

Is it on free view ?

I wonder if those saying that it's just the UK's Fox News despite never having watched it to find out realise that they are just the same as the teenagers calling JKR "transphobic" without actually having read her letter.

Thought erkrie was serious for minute 😀

Well, I will give it a go (although I don't have much time for television these days). There isn't a 'safe news' channel any more. Auntie Beeb has long since turned into Aunt Lydia. The BBC coverage of the Forstater case has been at best misleading.

There is a shakeup going on - similar to the introduction of Sky and BSB and longer broadcasting hours. Who knows how it will end.

It is amazing that in a so called communication age where the whole world is supposed to be connected that news is rubbish compared to Kate Adie with her fold-up satelite dish. We desperately need good journalists who can process all this information in a clear and unbiased way and places to pay them to do this.

If GB TV turns out to be full of right wing flag waving, then I'm out. But it will need to offer a lot more than this to survive.

I will tune in. Curious to see what it's like. If it's just opinions or actual news. I like Andrew Doyle and Inaya Folarin Iman from the few times I've watched them speak, so I hope they will have some thought-provoking and balanced segments.

It's hilarious how so many people are acting like they will catch something if they watch or read anything they might disagree with. They must think so little of themselves, their intelligence and their principles.

@DdraigGoch

I wonder if those saying that it's just the UK's Fox News despite never having watched it to find out realise that they are just the same as the teenagers calling JKR "transphobic" without actually having read her letter.

If people are familiar with the media output of the people who will make up the brand - and have been for many years - I wonder if your analogy holds.

They must think so little of themselves, their intelligence and their principles.

And the principles and experience of those involved, and it ignores the fact that in the U.K. we have a broadcasting regulator.

(I have no idea what the principles are of Michelle Dewberry, but I'm interested to find out and see what stories they cover, how they cover them and if the opinion element is the foundation of what they are building or whether they, unlike others you could say rely on fact and are not so desperate to achieve 'balance' that they would put a climate scientist on the sofa with say, a flat earther.)

Even if it was a very-right-wing "Fox News"-like (which I doubt given what I know of the people involved what I know about Fox News), even Fox News serves a pluralism purpose in the US.

Fox News are pretty much the only mainstream channel that lets Glenn Greenwald onto TV for example. The others are full of neoconservatives behind the Iraq war and ex-CIA folk behind the stuff that he+Snowden revealed.

At this point pluralism is important. I'm hoping for something anti-Woke, and the line-up suggests that's where they're at. I'd prefer left-wing anti-woke, but I'll accept right-wing.

@NonnyMouse1337

I will tune in. Curious to see what it's like. If it's just opinions or actual news. I like Andrew Doyle and Inaya Folarin Iman from the few times I've watched them speak, so I hope they will have some thought-provoking and balanced segments.

It's hilarious how so many people are acting like they will catch something if they watch or read anything they might disagree with. They must think so little of themselves, their intelligence and their principles.

I think on the whole it's more telling other people not to watch that gets me.

Like, this person knows what's best for you and doesn't want you to bother your pretty little head, or something.

@TrainedByCats

Since heavy use of union flags tends to be used by groups opposed to people living in the UK who don't fit the white British demographic based on the branding I’d assume it’s not for me

Eh? That's a hell of a leap!

Fuck sake. Being told what to watch now.

Thought erkrie was serious for minute

That's the brave new world for you. Strict rules of conduct. Must abide by them. 😂

If they can really cut through the Westminster voice box and get to the heart of what people in this country are feeling without it being one big voxpop from Joan aged 67 in Burnley, then it'll go down well. It will be hard for them to not come across as the Farage of media stations and get trounced for being the Brexit station but I wish them luck and I think it's about time, we need this.

@TrainedByCats the union flag tends to be used by all British people. People need to stop having a problem with it.

The real problem is that the BBC are making their own case for their being defunded. Murdoch has been after them for decades and couldn't touch them.

Just chipping in to say that, like a few others on this thread, if I am interested in a news story I get my news from a variety of sources. Not only is it fascinating how the same news is reported so differently, it also gives me the whole picture.

I guessing don't trust one single source to tell me what's really going on.

Fucks fucking sake. We are out of the EU and have a Tory government with about an 80-something majority, all largely I would argue. because some people refused to see and hear what was going on right in front of their noses and yet here we are still, being told not to watch a news channel in case..... well in case what exactly? We might hear some views we don't like?

I’m looking forward to giving GB News a try. Neil has, correctly in my view, identified a clear gap in the market for a less London-centric, much less ‘woke’ news outlet with a much greater diversity of opinions on key issues such as climate change, taxation, lockdowns, patriotism and immigration.

Hopefully, that will extend to much more balanced views on welfare dependency culture, market-based alternatives to the failed NHS model and the role of the monarchy.

There's an article in the Sunday Times "How the Tories weaponised woke" which is relevant to this discussion. In particular:

“Westminster likes to bracket people as left and right,” they said, “but the real gap in the political market that Boris identified and has successfully filled is people who lean left on spending and public services but are culturally conservative. A lot of the voters who have turned to us care about their country and their Queen and don’t like being told everyone is racist. They want tolerance but they don’t like the way the trendy left overreacts to these issues.”

The people involved in pushing this strategy for the Tories are not those I'd want to ally with. However, if they say something that in my opinion is right, then I'm not going to dismiss it because of the source.

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"We're doing something stupid, and people you don't like disagree with it and are using it against us, so you need to support us"

isn't really as convincing an argument as some people seem to think it is.

I'm hoping it will be something fresh. As others have said some actual journalistic endeavours, reporting on things that others may not be doing.

If it ends up just being YouTube lite where the same heterodox talking heads do the circuit interviewing each other then I'll be less interested because it gets repetitive even if you're in agreement with some of it.

I won't know until it's aired and been given a fair chance to get established so I'll tune in now and then over the coming weeks to see how it plays out.

Stop Funding Hate are not keen.

twitter.com/stopfundinghate/status/1357970051798863872?lang=en

[quote EndoplasmicReticulum]Stop Funding Hate are not keen.

twitter.com/stopfundinghate/status/1357970051798863872?lang=en[/quote]
In that case, GB News must be doing something right. Stop Funding Hate is an organisation which seeks to restrict and censor free speech in a democratic society. GB News is seeking to create more diversity of opinion in the news media.

I know which side I’m on.

Yep, Stop Funding Hate come from exactly the same place as "r/AgainstHateSubreddits" who were a driving force behind removing all GC subreddits.

Totalitarian assholes.

I thought it was interesting they were calling for it's defunding / cancellation before it had even broadcast anything.
Stop Funding Things We Might Not Approve Of.