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I’ve given up.

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Hypnotisedmesmerised · 18/02/2020 21:58

I’m broken.
Truly and utterly broken and there is not one single person I can talk to about it.
I don’t want to exist and I wish I was invisible.
I won’t kill myself because I have children who need me.
They’d probably be better off without me, I’m pretty sure of it infact yet they have no one else so they’re just stuck with me.
I’ve been off work for a while and I’ve decided that I just can’t face going back. I’m going to quit and I’m not going back again.
I’m sad, I’m overwhelmed, I’m angry and irritable, I’m a burden to life and I’m stuck.
I crossed the road today and a lady on a bike shouted at me “you didn’t even look” and I’ve never been one to say anything other than sorry but I immediately just shouted “shut up” at her. She didn’t hear me because she had earphones in but I shocked myself.
I feel a mixture of angry, sad and fed up.
I’ve always wanted to be kind to people and do the right thing and now I just feel like I couldn’t care less about anything.
I feel cynical towards others in a way I haven’t before. I’ve always been pretty scared of other people. Now the fear is gone but has been replaced with cynicism and anger.
I am really anxious about my health right now too, Im convinced I’m dying but I often hope my fears are correct because then I can die and it won’t be selfish, then I get scared that I will leave my children without anyone and I get scared.
I was at a train station this week with those super fast trains passing through, the ones that make your bones shake and all I could think of is how if I came back on my own one day and jumped when they made the announcement that a fast train would be passing and not stopping then nothing could stop me, I’d definitely die.
I wouldn’t though, I couldn’t leave my children mentally scarred by taking my life, not unless I knew they had someone who would love them and look after them properly.
I hate myself. I hate that I exist. I hate who I’ve always been. I’m shit and I’ve ruined everything I’ve ever touched.
I don’t know what I’m asking for. Maybe just someone who understands and can advise on how you make the most of being on this earth because you have to be and not because you want to be.
I’m 12 years old trapped inside an adults body. Sometimes even younger. I’m scared and sad and I need someone to just look after me and nurture me into a proper person but here I am. An adult with children of my own trying to get by day to day with everyone thinking I’m doing it, but I’m not.

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SunshineCake · 18/02/2020 22:01

Your children would not be better off without. Believe me. They need you and you deserve a good life.

Please go to the doctor and go every day until you get help.

I get some of the feelings you have. It is shit. You are a strong woman, you're a woman so you're strong, there's a reason you are here. Don't leave.

Hypnotisedmesmerised · 18/02/2020 22:06

Im not leaving. I appreciate the kindness but really I’m not going to take my life, I can’t. It would just top off the shit person I’ve always been and break my children for life but believe me when I say they truly would be better off without me, there’s just no one else that could love them and look after them so they are stuck with me and at least I have that tiny little bit of something about me. It will probably end up doing more damage than good them being stuck with me forever but I can’t put them through that.

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ILoveJoeBrown · 18/02/2020 22:11

Please call The Samaritans on 116 123. You don't have to do this alone and they are there 24 hours for you. Just pick up the phone, please?

Hypnotisedmesmerised · 18/02/2020 22:13

I can’t go to the doctor. I’ve had help. I’ve had cbt and counselling on the nhs a while ago. I’m now personally involved with somebody who has links to the service in a professional manner and I cannot bear the thought of the shame.
I feel like I can’t trust people right now anyway.
I’ve never been able to admit fully how I feel even when I’ve had the help. I’ve always been scared that if I truly open up my children would be taken from me.
I honestly believe I have a deep routed mental health disorder but no one’s ever said anything. I’ve been told I have generalised anxiety disorder but I think it’s more than that, I don’t know.

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RainWoman19 · 18/02/2020 22:14

Your kids need you. Please dont ever think they would be better off without you, you are their everything. Im really sorry your feeling this way and hope that you reach out as soon as possible as you are not alone in feeling this way. I know because I have been there and im telling you now, there is a way back to happiness. You need to get help and tell somebody in real life that you are feeling this way. I felt this way a few years back and thought I would never see the other side but I did so I know there is hope. It was difficult but worth it. Is there anybody you can talk to? X

Hypnotisedmesmerised · 18/02/2020 22:16

Thank you but I can’t call them.
To be honest I don’t even want to.
I don’t know why I’m even posting.
I don’t need people to presume I’m suicidal because I’m not.
Yes I have suicidal thoughts but NO intentions of carrying them out.
I can’t tell you the pain of knowing I’m stuck in this world until nature takes its course even though I don’t want to be but regardless of that I’ve accepted it.
I’m just fucking fed up.
I’m sick and tired of being me.
I feel so sorry for anyone who’s ever had the displeasure of knowing me.

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RainWoman19 · 18/02/2020 22:20

Your feeling very low, maybe just have a chat with them? You cant keep these feelings to yourself as it may escalate, do you have a friend who you could text?

Morgan12 · 18/02/2020 22:21

Why do you think you are such a horrible person?
Have you always felt like that or did something trigger these thoughts?

When was the last time you felt happy? What happened?

Spied · 18/02/2020 22:31

You sound completely overwhelmed.
Experience has however taught me that once you hit rock bottom truely the only way is up.
I had a 'breakdown' ( not the correct word nowadays I know) a few years ago.
I still live with generalised anxiety and dreadful health anxiety but I'm honestly a different person now to what I was back then.
Go back to your gp tomorrow. Be honest and open to all help.
Each day is a day forward and a day at a time is what it takes.
Be it a month or a year from now I'm pretty sure you will be able to look back and see progress and your outlook will have changed.

Hypnotisedmesmerised · 18/02/2020 22:36

No I don’t.
I have a few friends but they have their own stuff going on.
I’m there for them and they don’t need this.
I wouldn’t want to be friends with me if I started moaning I’d be incredibly draining.
I’ve always felt like this yes.
I didn’t have a happy childhood which is ok, I’ve accepted it and it was what it was, I can’t change it.
Probably shaped me and ruined me for life but no matter how hard I’ve tried and how much of a pretence I’ve put on to the world and even myself at times that I’m a proper adult who is doing well at life it always comes back and now I just don’t see the point in fighting it anymore, I’m nothing.
I realise I sound full of self pity but it’s not self pity, just acceptance.

I’m moody and irritable with my children at the moment and I can see it in myself but I just can’t seem to be what they need. I tell them off for silly things and feel so stressed over almost nothing. I feel so overwhelmed. I’ve cried in front of them which I never thought I’d do just because I feel so low.
One of my children has additional needs and can be quite verbally abusive towards me and I feel like a failure because it’s upsetting me so much. The more irritable and moody I am though I’m pretty sure it has an effect and makes it worse but I can’t snap out of it like I usually can.
I feel moments of happiness regularly. Usually when I can lock myself away from the world or disappear into the outdoors alone but it doesn’t last long. I do appreciate a lot of small things and try so hard but it’s getting harder to try and I just don’t know what to do.
I don’t know how to get a grip.
I just wish I didn’t have to be a person anymore but I can’t just vanish. I wish I could.

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ILikePaperHats · 18/02/2020 22:38

You're obviously depressed and need antidepressants and counselling immediately. Why do you think you are such a bad person? Are you really? Examine yourself. Was there one particular life event that makes you feel this? Why keep beating yourself up over something that's in the past and that you no longer have any control of? For the sake of yourself and your kids, take back control of your life moving forward. Set 2 or 3 small goals a day and write down things you have to be thankful for.

Wrongintherightway · 18/02/2020 22:45

You need support to help you through this, I don't know you or your family situation but people do care and do love you

Please get help, speak to someone and let yourself be ill, you need to be kind to yourself and believe it's an illness that's making you feel like thus and that you will feel better, in time with support

I hope posting in here has been a release for you, please find someone to guide you through this hard time x

Hypnotisedmesmerised · 18/02/2020 22:45

I agree.
I’m very depressed. I cry allot.
I’ve posted on here but even on here have made it sound not as bad as it is.
I sometimes post on here about a nice things (I’ve name changed for this) but it’s never how my life in my head feels.
I’ve had professional help and made it sound not as bad as it is for fear of judgement and being deemed as an unfit mum because I’m so messed up inside.
I won’t speak to my friends because I’m scared of being a burden or someone they don’t want to bother with.
I don’t have much going for me but at least I can be a good friend.
I spend my life trying to make others happy but I feel like I don’t even want to do that anymore. I just want to vanish, that’s the only way I can describe it.

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Hypnotisedmesmerised · 18/02/2020 22:49

Thank you for the kindness.
Posting on here is a release.
I can’t be this honest anywhere else in my life and it feels good just to get the words out.
I fucking need someone, something.
I just need to be taken and fixed and loved and looked after so so much.
I’ve never had that, ever.
I’m not the sort of person to seek that. I’m not stupid and have only ever had 2 relationships so that’s not what I’m saying, I just need a hug.
I need just one person who loves me and is there for me.
Why didn’t anyone ever do that for me?

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TyroSaysMeow · 18/02/2020 22:56

Right there with you, OP. It's hard. Flowers

jackstini · 18/02/2020 22:57

So sorry you are feeling like this

Am sending you a very unmumsnetty hug, sounds like you need some love and I really hope you find a way through this

Keep posting and venting

Can you think of anything that makes you a horrible person? Because reading your posts you sound very caring - about your friends and your children. It sounds more like you have been treated horribly and your self worth been given a proper battering

You do deserve better - love, happiness, hope Thanks

TARSCOUT · 18/02/2020 22:58

Hey you..lifes pretty crap isn't it. I get you and I have been you. The only thing that kept me going was my two nephews. I phoned the samaritans but wasn't for me. I get that you're almost happy when you are alone because noone can get to you and just drain you. Does that sound familiar?.God life can be so shit. There is no magic wand but you so need some intervention
You really do need to be on some antidepressants. They're not going to cure you but they do enable you to think clearly and you aren't doing this just now. Does any of this resonate?

Hypnotisedmesmerised · 18/02/2020 23:19

Thank you, I really appreciate people taking the time to read and reply.
This is so helpful just to talk.
I wish I could do it in real life properly, I just can’t.
Any kind words set me off crying.
I feel like it can’t be true though.

Here’s a list of the things I feel make me a horrible person. I know they’re not all logical but I can’t help the way I feel.

I’m moody and irritable with my children.

I need help and I won’t get it.
I wasn’t worth love as a child.
I was abandoned as a child by one of my parents.
My other parent was abusive.
Many other people were abusive.
I couldn’t just be grateful that I was loved in my last relationship and left it because I wasn’t happy.
I’m quitting my job.
I have debt that I’ve been working hard to clear but just can’t seem to get there, feels like it’s been going on forever.
I’ve possibly damaged my physical health with my own doing of an eating disorder. Finally over it but now getting allot of heart palpitations, headaches, am anaemic and am worried I’m going to die and leave my children.
Sometimes I wish that was true.
One of my children are overweight and unhappy about it and I’m probably to blame, it can only be my fault.
My child with additional needs struggles behaviourally and through all my efforts he still struggles and I worry that I’m not enough and not doing a good enough job.
I can feel ok when I’m alone sometimes but how should I have the right to feel that way?

Just so much.
Ultimately though I just feel like I’m rotten, broken, damaged since birth. That I’m just a burden to the world.

@TARSCOUT more than you can imagine. I’ve never understood it like that, probably through guilt but I get it, that’s it.
I just have this deep need for a loving hug and to be looked after but I’m the adult with the responsibility and there is so much of it that I’m sinking.
I can’t admit that to anyone though because people say to me how well I do. I just can’t be vulnerable, that’s how you get hurt.

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RainWoman19 · 18/02/2020 23:20

You are not a horrible person as what your saying says that you care about your children and friends, hope you can recognise this in yourself. Be kinder to yourself, its hard but small steps will take you further in the long run. I really hope you can seek help and maybe go and speak to your GP about how your feeling x

TyroSaysMeow · 19/02/2020 01:35

You weren't born broken. You had shit times starting at a young age, and that does mess people up. There's all sorts of therapy that might help, if you can access it - which means talking to your GP and making it clear that a couple of six-week counselling courses aren't going to cut it.

The crying when people are kind thing sucks. I do it too and I hate it. It's like other people's empathy hurts.

SunshineCake · 19/02/2020 18:32

You are not a shit person. That is your brain being mean to you. A lot of what you wrote in your second post really resonates with me so I understand how you are feeling but please believe me when I say you are wrong. Your children are amazing because of you. You made them at the start and you made them the lovely people they are now.

Keep going back to the doctor. I have seen several counsellors and it really is about getting the right person and the right kind of therapy you need. Admittedly I am paying now for therapy and I was signposted to her by a completely unrelated unusual source but the right help is there. I really believe it.

I'm reading each of your posts then commenting and blinking heck I've checked more than once if it was me. I have so many similarities with you and I wish I could help. I am happy to know you. No displeasure here.

tootiredtospeak · 19/02/2020 20:53

You sound utterly fed up and dragged down by life however, there are also glimpses in your post of positivity and strength.
You say you have a few freinds which is positive. You are working on clearing debts however hard that is you are trying. Youve made a decision about your job that alone may be a turning point in life. You have left a relationship that you didnt feel was right and you wouldnt leave your children and hurt them by committing suicide.
In fact you sound pretty damn strong to me. I know you dont feel it and I really do think its time ro reach out. Just because you had help once doesnt mean you dont deserve it again. You can do it one day at a time.

sadforthekoalas · 19/02/2020 21:07

How old are your children? Can you get some support from eg homestart or a children's centre? I get why people are suggesting counselling but you sound to me like you could do with some practical support/handholding with the parenting. Thanks

Hypnotisedmesmerised · 20/02/2020 10:30

Thank you for the words and the time taken to reply, I am trying to unpick my mind and work out what I need to do, it’s just hard. But I’m here and I have to turn this around because I can’t stay living like this in my mind. I said to my cbt therapist when I did it that I would rather spend the next 50 years working on my mental health than living in the silent pain and I meant it, I’ve just lost sight of that.
I worry myself because when I get to such a low place I feel very suicidal and the thoughts are big. I feel angry that I have to be alive. I feel devastated that I can’t just choose to end the pain and that I’m forced to be here and stay here.
I think of different ways I could die and how I could make it look like an accident so that it doesn’t seem selfish and I even set up life insurance at one point for my children to help with their care and for when they’re adults when I’d felt very low. But I won’t go through with it, I couldn’t do that to them. I just get scared that if I ever sink too low and can’t come back from it, what if I do? It sounds silly because I know I wouldn’t but what if?
I think a huge part of the problem is my childhood. I feel angry at myself that I can’t just let that go and be over it. It wasn’t as bad as some people have had it I’m sure. There was allot of abuse and from a mixture of people. Some very close to me and some not so much. Out of it all though I think it’s the verbal and emotional side that has stuck with me and that has messed me up to the extent that I am.
It was a daily stream from a very young age and although I know on a logical level that those words aren’t who I am, it’s like they’ve been so ingrained into me that I just can’t see myself in any other way.
I’d started to with the help but I could really do with ongoing support. I am so very grateful, between the cbt and counselling I think I had around 35 hour long sessions altogether which is huge, I feel so very lucky but it still isn’t enough.
I feel very worthless and like a huge waste of space to the world and I’ve mostly throughout my adult life felt that at least I am a good mum. Not perfect because none of us are but good enough. I just have felt the irritability in myself lately and am not as good as I could be and then I feel like thats it, even the one thing I do get right I’m ruining and I just can’t be my best no matter how much I want it and how hard I try. I’ve sworn around them, I’ve even directed “for fuck sakes” at them when arguing and I have never done that before!
@TyroSaysMeow Other people’s empathy does hurt. I feel so undeserving of any kindness and love, I tend to push it away outside of my children, I hate that I do it but it’s just default. I have worked on it the older I’ve gotten but it still feels strange.
@SunshineCake they are truly wonderful people, I just fear that I’ll end up ruining that just by being me.
Thank you for your kindness, I don’t think I could afford to pay privately so I’m pretty stuck for options but I have found a service that offers hugely discounted counselling prices so I might look into that although I’m not sure they cover what I think I need. If I remember rightly I think that’s more for Counselling around anxiety but I could be wrong. I do get anxious but it’s more than just that I think.
I think I’ve just reached a point where I feel like I can’t be bothered with anymore help because I’m so fed up and don’t deserve it anyway.
I’m trying to turn that mind set around, I know I have to. Not for myself but for my children.
Thank you for not feeling the displeasure.
@tootiredtospeak thank you, I hadn’t looked at it like that, that there was positivity too. I suppose I’m not at rock bottom yet.
I’d say I do have a few friends yes, my friends have children who my children get along with although mine are quite a bit older as I had mine young. I really enjoy spending time with them, they are great people but I probably do have a closeness barrier that goes up even with them. I try to be there for them when they need me but I would never put on them. My best friend I have done in the past over unhappy relationships but I felt like a burden so I vowed not to go to her over emotional issues again in such a way.
I am pleased with the progress on my debt. I was in quite a good position before my last relationship. Ish. But I got into a lot more debt during that relationship through taking on costs I shouldn’t have and paying for more than I should have but we live and we learn and I’m almost there now.
The job decision I’m not sure is positive. It’s something I wanted for such a long time. I had a recent supervision where my manager praised my work beyond anything I could have imagined and I was given some great responsibilities. I feel like I’m maybe self sabotaging with it all but I just can’t go back and I don’t know why.
I think I’m aware that I need time to work on my mental health and myself and I can’t work that job and do that at the same time. I don’t think I can provide the reliability they need right now.
The relationship decision was what was needed and I don’t regret it at all, I should have done it sooner but again we live and we learn.
No I wouldn’t leave them but I worry that one day I will sink so low inside my mind that what if? It’s like I don’t fully trust myself to always be strong.
I truly appreciate you framing things that way. I know I can be strong, I’ve fought all my life to be strong I suppose what I feel sometimes is along the lines of
“I just want to able to not be strong, just for a while, to have someone be strong for me for a little while, to tell me what I need to do, to love me, to hug me, to care about me”
I suppose It comes down to my inner child. I wish I had just one adult in my life who cared about me. Just one person I could turn to in times of need. When life gets hard and the world feels heavy. Someone to turn to and ask for help. For a hug, for some direction.
I’m glad I’m that for my children but I wish so badly that I had that for me too. I never had that and I’m still sad about that now.
Sounds pathetic doesn’t it?
@sadforthekoalas they are older. One a teenager and one almost.
I understand and would probably agree but from the outside I don’t think it would appear that way.
They are good kids. Happy and well rounded people, it’s just that one of them has additional needs so is a challenge behaviourally.
I pushed for support before and got it but it wasn’t really the help that was needed. I really got along with the lady and we actually ended up becoming friends to an extent. But the support offered wasn’t anything new to us. She gave me a personal reference for my last job (the one I’m leaving). We’ve exchanged emails over time but she’s stopped replying now and that’s made me feel a bit sad but I realise she’s not obliged. Maybe she’s just busy but it’s been almost a week since I last sent her a message and she’s not replied where she usually would have replied by now.
We have a clean and tidy home, I cook home cooked food every day, they don’t go without anything, we have days out and holidays, they have friends over and above all else I give them lots of time and love. We chat, we play games, we cuddle up and watch films and I am the only one who can fully regulate and calm my one with the additional needs, I’ve worked hard on it. My eldest has just got into a pretty special school too so from the outside everything looks hunky dory.
It’s just the irritability and moodiness that’s crept in lately that I can’t shake which is making me not as good a parent as I know I can be. I feel sorry for them having to be around me when I’m feeling this way.
Other than that, all of my mental health struggle is inside my head if that makes sense?
I’ve got so good over the years at being fine and strong for the world around me but inside my head it paints a different picture. It’s like I’m sitting in a calm and serene park, the sun is out, it’s bright and beautiful and everyone around me is happy and calm, chatting quietly or laughing together or laying and watching the world go by, maybe reading a book in peace and I’m there, I look like one of them, I even have the laughing children who are having fun but inside my head there is devastation. There’s a fire, there’s people running screaming and scared, it’s all dark and looks nothing like the park on the outside. People are shouting and screaming and banging and begging to leave and be saved but my brain keeps it all prisoner while my mouth smiles at the others in the park.

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SunshineCake · 20/02/2020 17:29

Again, so many similarities I feel frustrated I can't wave a magic wand and get you all you need to feel hugely better.

Please keep asking for help until you get it. People will help. People want to help.

I was seeing a doctor at the hospital for a medical reason and she didn't stick to just that. She knew there was more to it. TBH not sure how as even though I eluded to things what I needed up getting help for wasn't it. She referred me to someone else who after a time realised she wasn't the right help so had a case conference then I had treatment then ended up getting the right kind of therapy.

I was then unwell so had private testing, got tearful during general chatting and then was given the phone number of who I see now. If I hadn't have had private testing no way would I have known about my therapist now. While I pay for her she has said I can pay less if necessary as I am having a lot of appointments.

So, all that waffle just shows you help will come from unexpected places but you have to invest in yourself, have faith and keep trying.

Take care.