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Honest advice needed - am I crazy

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Bella1378 · 29/10/2019 15:32

I have been with my fiancée for two years and he proposed after just six months. The first year of our relationship was wonderful. I’d been through a terrible break up with an ex who had cheated on me, and it was refreshing to be with someone who was honest, loyal and transparent about everything. He was never sneaky or deceitful, sung my praises openly to all his friends and family, was happy to tell me anything and was just totally committed, kind, caring and supportive; I couldn’t believe my luck.

A few months after we got engaged, I started to experience horrible paranoia and suspicion about the most random things. I convinced myself that he must be cheating like my ex did with no evidence of this at all. I started questioning him constantly about his romantic history, all his exes, and became suspicious of almost any woman he interacted with. I accused him of lying about all kinds of stuff, I would try and find any evidence I could that he had been unfaithful. I found nothing. In return, he helped me realise that I was suffering from anxiety and depression, probably brought on by my previous relationship. He gave me full access to his phone and all his passwords in an effort to reassure me. He would sit with me for hours on end listening to my worries and responding to them. But it almost seemed like the more he reassured me the worse I became; as though I was subconsciously determined self harm by uncovering some wrongdoing on his part.

After a few months of this he understandably started to lose his patience. He began arguing with me and telling me how angry he was that I didn’t trust him when he had been totally faithful to me.

There was one woman in particular I was paranoid about. He had been close friends with her through work for years before he met me, but nothing romantic/sexual had ever happened between them. He was open with me about their friendship from the start, she was invited to our wedding, there were no red flags such as hiding her messages/calls etc, he was totally happy for me to see what they were talking about. She is attractive and when I asked him, he said he had fancied her when they first met years ago but that it had quickly turned platonic and they had never been more than mates.

One day I asked to see his phone because I just couldn’t stop the worrying. I went into their message thread and ended up scrolling all the way back, to years before he and I had even met. I saw that during our relationship, all his messages with her had been matey and non flirtatious; he had mentioned me and our engagement a few times and there was nothing suspicious about their interaction. However, when I scrolled back to the years before we had met and at the time he was single, there was definitely some flirty banter going on. Things like joking about whether they should hook up etc - she’d tell him about her latest date and he’d say ‘date me instead’ etc - but it did appear to be in a jokey way and there was lots of other general non flirty banter; they also called each other ‘mate’ and ‘bro’ and it was clear from the messages that they never actually hooked up, but there were definitely a few flirty light hearted undertones.

I told him I had read these messages. I accepted that they all took place before I had even met him, but I asked him why he had always insisted that their relationship was entirely platonic when he had clearly flirted with her for the duration of their friendship before he met me. He dismissed it as nothing and said it was just cheeky banter that he did with a lot of people when he was single, it didn’t mean anything and he never actually wanted anything to happen with her, and nothing ever did. I can’t stop dwelling on it. Is he lying/trying to pull the wool over my eyes? He keeps telling me that it’s just my anxiety and delusion but that’s hard to accept when I have seen plainly flirtatious messages in black and white. Am I over reacting- do I have genuine reason to worry or is he right?

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homeworkery · 29/10/2019 15:34

I feel sorry for him. Seems like he can't do anything right. You should definitely seek some help

TurnOffTheTv · 29/10/2019 15:36

He needs to run a mile. You’re never going to be satisfied with this relationship, you’re going to lose him.

AngusThermopyle · 29/10/2019 15:39

But you said yourself, it was platonic, that can still mean flirty, it was an intimate and affectionate relationship but no sex.

It sounds like he's been quite patient up until now but now sounds like his patience running out.
You either need to drop it love or leave him, mind you if he wises up he may end it first.

MondeoFan · 29/10/2019 15:40

You are over reacting to the detriment of losing him. Can't you see that?
The poor man has gone nowt wrong.
In fact he can't get through to you at all.
If you lose him you will only have yourself to blame unfortunately

xraytangocharlie · 29/10/2019 15:40

Whether you are right or he is right, that's not the issue here.

The problem is that you have enormous issues in being able to trust anyone after what happened in your previous relationship. You are going to spent the entirety of your relationship doubting everything he says. Honestly - you really need to work on that before anything else.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 29/10/2019 15:41

I'm amazed that he's still with you to be honest.

He sounds like a wonderful man who adores you, and you will destroy this relationship if you don't get help for your issues.

I think you need to sit down and apologise - sincerely apologise - for your behaviour and seek professional help.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 29/10/2019 15:42

Sorry if that was harsh. But you really are destroying your own happiness (and his) here.

user1471453601 · 29/10/2019 15:44

He told you he fancied her when they first met, but nothing ever happened between them. What you have read seems to confirm his version of events.

You appear to have some fairly serious mental health issues that you need to address, and your husband needs to look after himself and his own mental health

VisionQuest · 29/10/2019 15:44

OP you're going to end up driving him away. It sounds like he has the patience of a saint.

I get that it's hard to move on when you've been cheated on but your behaviour is unhinged.

Bella1378 · 29/10/2019 15:45

Thank you for your advice. I just feel that he deliberately downplayed the nature of their relationship to me by saying it’s always been platonic, when the messages show that they used to flirt.

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hardyloveit · 29/10/2019 15:46

To answer your title question - yes you sound crazy. I'm not sure how he has put up with all this tbh. I'd have run a mile by now.
I get that you have anxiety and trust issues but he hasn't done anything to warrant you being like this.

hardyloveit · 29/10/2019 15:47

I used to flirt with a lot of guys when I was single. He was single then. You need to drop it or you will end up without him

Bella1378 · 29/10/2019 15:47

But the flirty messages weren’t just from when they first met, they were on and off for the whole duration of their friendship up until he met me.

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avocadoincident · 29/10/2019 15:47

I hope people are kind on here to you as you are obviously suffering.

Get counselling ASAP, if you can afford to go private do that so you don't need to wait. I paid £50 an hour but it was well worth it.

Don't let that awful bastard who cheated on you previously ruin this lovely relationship you could have now

hardyloveit · 29/10/2019 15:48

Re read your message. UP UNTIL HE MET YOU. He was single then and it stopped when he met you

Bella1378 · 29/10/2019 15:50

I obviously don’t mind that he flirted with people per se when he was single and we had not even met. The reason I’m upset is more that he has persistently portrayed her to me as someone who has always been a platonic friend and nothing more than that - the messages show this isn’t exactly true.

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Shodan · 29/10/2019 15:50

It has only been platonic though. Platonic means no sex. He hasn't downplayed anything, or lied.

But you are massively overplaying everything now. He has shown admirable patience (more than I would for sure) but you will lose him if you don't sort yourself out.

AngusThermopyle · 29/10/2019 15:52

@Bella1378 Do you know what platonic means? It doesn't mean not flirting.

Bella1378 · 29/10/2019 15:53

He told me repeatedly that he only fancied her on a physical level when they first met years ago, and that once he got to know her personality he realised they were better suited as mates and lost his attraction to her. So why would he continue to flirt if that was the case?

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quincejamplease · 29/10/2019 15:55

You are abusing him.

I hope he is able to leave you.

I hope you get the help you need to change and move forward without him.

katmarie · 29/10/2019 15:56

I mean this as kindly as possible, but you really need to consider getting some help for your anxiety. Lots of people (especially single people) have friendships which occasionally wander into cheeky or flirty territory, without there being any intention of it being anything more than pure platonic friendship. He hasn't lied to you at all. What he has done is put up with a boatload of misplaced paranoia and jealousy over nothing. Please get some help, or you will lose this man.

homeworkery · 29/10/2019 15:57

Drop it. You want us to say you're right but you're not. He's done nothing wrong. He might not even remember the messages from years ago.

He shouldn't have to show you his phone. You are going to lose him. Please get some help to deal with your problems

purplepalace · 29/10/2019 15:59

You are being very unfair and completely overreacting. He has been nothing but honest with you.

Please get some counselling.

And my advice to him would be to run a mile from you.

sofato5miles · 29/10/2019 15:59

My boyfriend would get a week of t he at behaviour before I binned him, never mind MONTHS. No-one wants to live like that.

You are crazy and the problem is not your boyfriend. I would seek help before you lose this very spectacularly patient man.

Bella1378 · 29/10/2019 15:59

I hate the idea that I am abusive but maybe you are right. I didn’t think that being anxious and asking a tonne of questions for reassurance equated to abuse, but maybe it does.

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