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Venafalaxine withdrawal

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Trooperslane2 · 14/05/2018 08:58

Been on VF since January - can't eat, barely functioning and after discussion with my GP coming off it.

I want to use this thread just to vent, to remind myself there was someone there before anxiety took over my life several years ago and to convince myself that I will be ok and DH will get his wife back again.

I've recently left a massively stressful job and I'm studying from September - I've just had another chat with a lovely Mum at nursery drop off and realised I haven't regretted this change for a minute!

Feel free to join in if you're weaning off too.

Today: probably a 6/10 but the sun is shining and I have nice plans - for me. Self care is the new medicating in our house.

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Hefzi · 17/05/2018 17:48

This might not work, and I did read it on the Internet, but allegedly, Benadryl (if you can take it) at the normal dose helps the side effects of withdrawal.

I once went cold turkey (do not do this) from 375mg per day, and it took 2-2 1/2 weeks for the side effects to go completely: one of the few advantages of it having such a short half life (or whatever it's calledGrin) - so honestly, it does get better Flowers

Trooperslane2 · 17/05/2018 18:26

Hefzi that's really interesting actually - short half life = a benefit!

Socks he's a really nice guy and I'm not going to be able to look him in the eye the next time I see him! Both married. Absolutely no attraction between us but Jesus it was vivid Blush Biscuit

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Haribogirl · 18/05/2018 13:31

I’ve read that about Benadryl
Also read from previous venlafaxine people, that switching to Prozac is suppose to help with the last bit withdrawal

Hefzi
Wow that was a brave call
You must be so tolerant of those awful awful symptoms and nerves of steel.

LandOfOddSocks · 18/05/2018 13:50

I agree... I tried the cold turkey method before I did it the slow way, and it did not go well!

Shattered04 · 18/05/2018 13:58

It'll be three weeks tomorrow since I took my last crumb. I had been on it for a short time like you - since Christmas, at 75mg extended release. I'd been on Citalopram for a few months before that, but it either wasn't enough, or my memory stopped working so we thought we'd try the Venlafaxine.

Ultimately though, the root of most of my issues was undiagnosed ADD which I already knew, and when I finally got access a few months ago to ADHD medication it made such a big difference I knew I didn't need an anti-depressant any more (at this time!)

The Venlafaxine did nothing, or so it felt. Just give me side-effects - tinnitus, dry mouth, blunted joy, vivid dreams that weren't always nice, and big weight gain.

I tapered from the 75mg to nothing over the course of two weeks using a pill cutter to slice a bit more off every day. I only really started to feel "it" in the second week, and then I deliberately sped it up a bit as I just wanted it over with.

The few days after I stopped completely were horrendous. I was not safe to drive (DH did) and my vision was really jerky. I had the prickly feeling like when you have a fever but without the fever. Could barely string a sentence together.

I've been taking 5-HTP once I was completely off to replace some of the serotonin, lots of Omega 3s, lots of magnesium and CBD oil. All these things have genuinely helped I feel.

A week out and most of the worst of the symptoms were gone, just a bit of dizziness and the prickly feeling and the laggy, jerky vision - just milder.

Three weeks out and so far those things are still present, but they get slightly milder each day. They're worse if I don't have enough sleep. I'm wondering how long these symptoms will last.

Also the last few days I've hit the endless crying part. Been doing it everywhere, even at the school gates (to be fair, I had major provocation on that one), at work.. you name it. I realised I hadn't cried since I started on the Cit in September. Hoping this bit passes quickly as it's causing lots of problems!

Insomnia - I can get to sleep okay but keep waking up really early and can't get back to sleep. Bright sunlight doesn't help, although our curtains are pretty good. Still having pretty vivid and often unpleasant dreams, although the nightmarish quality is receding now.

On the plus side, I've started enjoying music again, looking forward to things, seeing the beauty in my surroundings. On the minus, I seem to have less patience for listening to my children go on about something over and over; guess it was doing something useful after all!

Any of that sound familiar to anyone, including OP?

Good luck OP! Keep up updated!!

Hefzi - that is hardcore! But I can understand perfectly why you did it. Like ripping off a plaster. I just wanted the withdrawal effects over as soon as possible, even if it meant they were worse shorter term.

LandOfOddSocks · 18/05/2018 14:33

Well done @Shattered04. It's great that you can feel the improvement. Smile

A lot of the symptoms you described are familiar. The blunted joy was the worst part for me. I feel like I lived for several years in a half-life daze. All that wasted time being numb to everything, good or bad. Sad And the dreams every night were exhausting. The withdrawal symptoms for me were awful, but far preferable to endure that in the short term than live my whole life with the ongoing side effects of taking the medication.

Guiltypleasures001 · 18/05/2018 14:44

Hey troop

Just wanted to say, I was on it for a few years, what was called severe depression because it was getting worse ended up being side effects from the tablets.

I was having blood soaked dreams about stabbing my ex etc and becoming agoraphobic. I went cold turkey

First two weeks was a whirl of flu like symptoms, and even the smallest head movement meant the whole world tilting to the side 🤤
I couldn't drive and barely functioned, my Dad stepped in to do school runs for my ds , whilst I slept and felt like shit

Second two weeks was better but still unable to drive, no flu symptoms but some anxiety

Then After a month woke up one morning like a massive weight had been lifted
And my head was so clear it was amazing

I was only supposed to,take them for 3 months, 4 yrs later it became apparent that my brain and body was fighting against them, hence the side effects being misdiagnosed as depression

I went from 175mg or more to nothing, but I was so glad I did it

Chin up lovely 💐

Guiltypleasures001 · 18/05/2018 14:49

Sorry ide like to add

That I never needed those tablets even after the loss of my late daughter and a late termination because of the baby having the same genetic diagnosis

Female gp said I needed them after my then dh left for a 16yr old, she gave them to me because hers had left as well Hmm

She did me no favours, what I needed was to work through what was happening with a counsellor.

Shattered04 · 18/05/2018 14:57

Yes, definitely the blunted joy! And the weird thing is that you don't always realise it's gone, until you start to get it back. Then you think "oh, I remember that feeling now!"

The dreams are exhausting. I am glad I'm slowly starting to have more regular ones that I only occasionally remember much about. Before, they could take over my whole day sometimes, it was truly awful.

That said, I don't regret going on it in the short term, it was the right thing to do at the time.

Hefzi · 18/05/2018 18:14

Gosh, I feel I misled you all after those kindly comments: I did come off fine, but I am back on it now... BUT it has made me feel better about taking it - previously, I'd been dreading the withdrawal symptoms, but now I know what they are and what it feels like, I know I'll be OK next time within a relatively short time. Initially, I didn't realise they were even withdrawal symptoms - just thought I was coming down with something, as PP said. The zaps are disconcerting but worst for me was the visual symptoms and vertigo. I definitely would not have been OK drive even a short distance, and my perception of things was all skewy. I feel over more times in that fortnight than when I was learning to walk, I think!

I wonder, though, if that's because I also get an element of visual disturbance as a side effect from the Venlafaxine anyway? And fuck me (or rather, don't: I've gone from being a rather promiscuous sex fiend to celibacy for the last three years and counting Blush) the dreams... Lurid doesn't come into it! I'm actually just back from A and E, having flailed around so much last night that I ended up breaking some bones in my hand...

Lots of Flowers and Brew to everyone else out there, whether you're now drug-free or still drugged up. And to anyone struggling - to better days Wine (< alcohol free Wink)

Trooperslane2 · 20/05/2018 11:18

Jesus Hefzi!

Hope you're doing ok.

I cried all day yesterday totally over invested in a wedding I actually hadn't really thought about and was pretty hyper.

Then the visual disturbances kicked in. I'm staggering without wine for a change and I'm very emotional. The brain zaps I was asking about up thread - yep got it now.

Very poor night's sleep which doesn't help generally but I had a very good chat with a friend who is a psychiatrist and to sum up - it'll be a fucker for a while but ride it out.

Flowers for all.

I'm off to have another wee cry about a wedding I apparently don't care about.

It's actually making my heart sing - it's clear I haven't been feeling anything for ages, apart from anxiousness and it feels quite cathartic. DD made me get my wedding dress out and we sang "cos it's Harry I'm planning to MAAAAA---rrrryyyyyyy!" most of the day :)

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Trooperslane2 · 20/05/2018 11:22

Oh! Probably the best news - DH went to the supermarket for some naice picnic food and his face was [shocked] at how much I ate.

Emotions and appetite back in one day!

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Trooperslane2 · 20/05/2018 11:26

Shattered - you have it exactly.

Yes, definitely the blunted joy! And the weird thing is that you don't always realise it's gone, until you start to get it back. Then you think "oh, I remember that feeling now!"

I don't want this to turn into a Harry

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SisyphusDad · 20/05/2018 12:37

Not coming off venlafaxine but doses have been up and down. Whenever I've gone down I've done it very very slowly, over several weeks. Fortunately never had a problem.

Have occasionally forgotten to take one, and those dreams!! And reeling around like a drunk. I would not like to come off them cold turkey.

Good luck OP.

Trooperslane2 · 20/05/2018 13:11

sis - I'm about to take DD out and I've just put a long sleeved top on because my arms are so bruised from the reeling around - I think I can just about get away with my hands

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Trooperslane2 · 20/05/2018 13:12

And I'm so skinny - not a stealth boast - I'm bruising like a peach.

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Haribogirl · 20/05/2018 15:23

Just bringing up the bruising
Those that are/have been on venlafaxine
Do you find you bruise very easy????

I asked my gp, she did bloods but nothing came back

I’m sure it SE of venlafaxine

Trooperslane2 · 20/05/2018 21:25

I'm clumsy anyway - however the bruising is nothing like I've seen before - def SE for me.

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Trooperslane2 · 21/05/2018 08:11

Ok. Day 4.

Rough night. Sleeping is all messed up and really confrontational dreams which are very vivid. DH made me go to bed around 6ish put me to bed because I was falling off my feet.

I am now pooing for Ireland sorry, might as well be honest and I am able to eat a bit. I'm not the biggest eater at the best of times so this is good progress.

Feeling really sorry for DH actually. He's shattered, works full time in a demanding stressful job and is having to pick up so much more of the house stuff and with DD, even though I'm not working and haven't been since January..

I'm so lucky to have him, I love him with all of my heart and I'm so looking forward to getting this "episode" for want of a better word over so that we can get ourselves and our family back.

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Trooperslane2 · 21/05/2018 08:13

I did manage to take DD out yesterday, though not driving - no way right now.

For context, I'd feel safer driving after a bottle of wine - which I have never and would never do. Very spacey and the brain zaps are very disorientating. I've been driving for 25 years and have no issues usually but I know I'm not safe right now. It would be like driving a dodgem car.

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Trooperslane2 · 21/05/2018 08:16

I am pleased that I did take DD out and met a friend - our DDs were doing a wee class together and I met a lovely new friend who's just arrived here - managed that and a birthday party on Saturday, though again DH dropped us and picked us up.

Today - bit apprehensive about this but there you go - I am having a spa day [eek] [awaits MNetters eye rolls] which I have paid for with birthday money. The spa is my favourite and it's very dark so don't have to worry about bikini line issues but - it is very dark and I'm worried I'll be overwhelmed.

And I'm still crying about those feckers Harry & Meghan

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Trooperslane2 · 21/05/2018 08:18

Hefzi - how's your hand?

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LandOfOddSocks · 21/05/2018 08:18

You are doing so well and your DH sounds like a superstar. ⭐️ I hope the symptoms improve soon.

Trooperslane2 · 21/05/2018 08:31

Thanks, Socks

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lardass88 · 21/05/2018 09:09

Hang on in there! I had to take a week off work and could barely function when I was coming off them. The brain zaps and the dizziness every time I moved my head was unbearable. But after a week it improved. What dose are you on?