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HTT are handing me over

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EnpoTree · 03/11/2014 12:39

Woop! Just got a call asking if I wanted to be visited today (er, no, ta) and telling me that they're about to call CMHT to hand me over to them. Finally getting off this daily checking up soon I hope Grin

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EnpoTree · 04/11/2014 17:18

Replace it somehow.

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EnpoTree · 04/11/2014 17:18

People shouldn't be nervous to access services.

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EnpoTree · 04/11/2014 17:19

I wish I could remember what Mavis said last night the new mission was going to be called.

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EnpoTree · 04/11/2014 17:21

Getting used to calli her Mavis now. Was a struggle not to do it to her face Grin

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EnpoTree · 04/11/2014 17:21

I think she might be quite ill.

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EnpoTree · 04/11/2014 17:22

But she seems a lot more calm when high.

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Mitchy1nge · 04/11/2014 17:23

weird, I was thinking a little earlier of what might take the place of stuff like the MHA in a truly developed society (I don't think we can consider ourselves there yet while people can still be deprived of their liberty without having committed any crimes)

EnpoTree · 04/11/2014 17:23

Costs a fuck of a lot though; she's getting through £25 a day.

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EnpoTree · 04/11/2014 17:24

yes Mitch - I wonder what it would look like too. I'm thinking of those "enlightened" asylum wardens during the era when occasionally they would decide to do away with restraints and locks and found (surprise surprise) uncaged humans are a bit less mad.

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Mitchy1nge · 04/11/2014 17:26

they still use restraints in the states

EnpoTree · 04/11/2014 17:27

I wonder if it would ever be possible to end compulsion or coercion completely. I don't think it will be though; not unless we make different decisions on when someone Should be allowed the responsibility to damage themselves.

But yet certainly need to get rid of the voluntary-but-not-really loophole.

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Mitchy1nge · 04/11/2014 17:27

probably we still use them here, in fact wasn't there a report recentlyish showing weird regional patterns of their use in the UK?

EnpoTree · 04/11/2014 17:28

What, like actual straps and stuff?

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Mitchy1nge · 04/11/2014 17:29

yeah

actual straps and stuff, to beds

EnpoTree · 04/11/2014 17:29

I feel I can't talk from a place of personal experience here as I've never been detained under the MHA, just under the threat of it or lied and been told I was under nurse holding powers when I wasn't so it's not something I have a lot of right to campaign about or comment on.

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EnpoTree · 04/11/2014 17:30

That's foul.

Some drugs have a similar effect though, but you can at least still scratch your nose.

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EnpoTree · 04/11/2014 17:33

It depends how long they're used for though, partly. I think I'd rather be in straps for an hour than restrained by people for an hour.

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EnpoTree · 04/11/2014 17:33

But then I have this thing about people touching me. Grin

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Mitchy1nge · 04/11/2014 17:34

living under the threat of it is probably not much better

it was a deep deep shock that I can't see myself ever fully getting over, that I could be locked up, secluded even, drugged, all that, against my will and for no reason that made sense to me at the time (I do realise I wasn't well but have unhelpfully forgotten almost everything now) but while it was happening I had no idea what I was supposed to have done wrong, it felt like it must have been a case of mistaken identity or something - I hadn't been to my GP or anything, it was straight there without passing Go :(

EnpoTree · 04/11/2014 17:34

But sadly I bet people are actually left in restraints for hours or longer.

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EnpoTree · 04/11/2014 17:35

That sounds so terrifying Mitch.

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EnpoTree · 04/11/2014 17:36

And as you say your worldview can never be the same again when you know what a thing of utter simplicity and ease it is to lose all sovereignty. Really any of us at any time are only independently-acting sovereign individuals for as long as we are protected by the force of law; a totally abstract thing.

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Mentalpsychiatrist · 04/11/2014 17:36

I don't have to fear the MHA at the moment but it's always lingering. Never mind that I section people all the time.

Mitchy1nge · 04/11/2014 17:38

here is a literature review probably interesting if not v cheerful reading, doesn't include UK as mechanical restraint is used only rarely apparently

EnpoTree · 04/11/2014 17:39

Really?

It's that common to have to section people?

Has it increased in frequency or something? Last time I had significant involvement with inpatient MH was over a decade ago and almost everyone was voluntary.

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