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we were all in the bed, this is the 2nd thread....roll over! roll over!

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ThatVikRinA22 · 02/02/2013 01:26

so we all rolled over and hellebelles told us to get our arses out of bed......Smile

ive started a new one because there are only a few posts left on the old thread before it gets full.

nana ive described myself on the old thread just for you! Smile

so.

nana hellesbelles mama ed silvery and basset and any one else who posted on the old thread or who relates to our experiences and wants to post on the new one....welcome to the new thread.

old one here

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Unfortunatlyanxious · 01/03/2013 20:42

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SnowyMouse · 01/03/2013 20:53

I agree, I think it changes most people...it can be a very powerless place. I found the sudden violence of some people tricky. I was restrained once, never again (I tried to leave when they sectioned me, didn't realise they could just stop you like that).

I'm glad the day centre helps you, UA. As far as diagnosis goes, lots of people go through several, I think right treatment can be more important than right diagnosis (both are best).

I've been thinking about thread posters today, I don't want to hog the thread.

ThatVikRinA22 · 02/03/2013 00:24

so sorry snowy -sounds like you are having a particularly difficult time. I have no wisdom to offer, but am here. x

nana so sorry to read HM is still rampaging....little bastard must be needing a sleep soon. i hope.

not properly caught up on thread - so apologies to everyone for that....will likely not get back on for a day or two either for a proper catch up....

hope you all have a better/good day tomorrow....

ive been at stables all day today and out with friends tonight
same for tomorrow but out with family for a meal for my birthday
sunday at stables too....

will catch up proper when i can. thinking of everyone.
must go and take meds....missed them today. oops.

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EdwiniasRevenge · 02/03/2013 00:26

Evening all.

Quickie from me.

Thanks for the kind words and support last night/this morning. I know what you mean and I know that the fact I am beating myself up is a sign that I am in a trough. I just feel that my difficulties pale into insignificance when I read the difficulties faced by some of you like snowy and nana.

I am really in a trough though. Another crash day. I didnt go back to bed until nearly 11am but I was out like a light for 3hrs, then took an hour to drag myself out of bed. I have a child free weekend. I have done my shopping which means I am able to and probably will hibernate for the weekend. I need to set myself some challenges...but I can't even he bothered to set them let alone do them....

Have been cuddling very cute 10 day old baby this evening though.

Hugs to all. Have a good weekend at the stables vicar

EdwiniasRevenge · 02/03/2013 00:29

Xpost with vicar.

Oops...missed my meds too. But I am in bed with a sore ankle (unknown reason) and very sore recently healed broken finger so will wait until tomorrow.

Theres my first challenge....get up and take meds and put washing machine on by 11am...

NanaNina · 02/03/2013 02:00

It's nearly 2.00 am on Sat. I am up so late because I feel fair bit better this evening, so figured if I stayed up and felt ok then would sleep more tomorrow as I have absolutely no hope of anything but more crap. I got in contact with the CPN I saw for a short time a year or so ago and she is coming out on Friday next week. She said not to go near any hynotherapist at this stage. Friday really was the day from hell, but I think we all tend to think we are taking up space when others are suffering more! Think it just means we are all nice empathetic people!
Ed I can see that you are in a trough but it's probablyno worse than mine or maybe even worse, but we can't be measuring troughs, can we. I always feel less pain under the duvet but I was even scared under there today......my one place of refuge. Really hope you can get some rest and peace over the weekend and will be thinking of you.

I want to reply to mama because I know of something very similar that happened to a woman where I worked. Will do when I can get my act together.
Vicar you sound busy but know you have the work thing hanging over you like a black cloud.

sorry if I'm not making much sense- I'm just trying to remember bits and pieces I've read lately. And of course I am worried for you snowymouse as psych is in favour of admission. YOu are right - it is a very powerless position on a psych ward. I found the nurses and nursing assts were mostly unconcerned with the patients, other than dishing out meds etc. I didn't find anything scarey, I thought mostly it was boring and hated the way they wanted you to get up by 9.30 (they have this obsession with people not staying in bed) and then when you get up there is nothing to do...........

Love to all ........

ThatVikRinA22 · 02/03/2013 02:10

hi NN glad you are feeling better. im still up.

yep - busy few days ahead but you are right - black cloud. trying so hard not to dwell on that right now.
im so disappointed that i didnt hear anything from the prison admin job....i had everything they wanted - i had used the same computer system and worked with offenders.....yet heard nowt. i figure it may have gone internally. im sick of feverishly scanning emails....

i am dreading going back to work but trying to get my head around it. hope you continue to feel better, i should try to get to bed i guess.

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SnowyMouse · 02/03/2013 08:38

Thanks for the support, much appreciated as it's hard to find people who empathise. The crisis team woke me up last night by phoning. Hmm

You sound like you've been busy, vicar. I hope your birthday meal is enjoyable Smile

I think everything is relative in terms of problems, Ed - I don't feel as unwell as people are suggesting. Be kind to yourself (that goes for everyone!).

I'm glad you got in contact with your CPN, NanaNina - I hope the time doesn't drag before Friday.

I hope everyone got some sleep last night!

SnowyMouse · 02/03/2013 09:34

Level 2 here

EdwiniasRevenge · 02/03/2013 09:44

Morning.

Well that was a crap nights sleep. I lost count of tge number of times I woke up.

I know you are right. Its a trough for me. A deep trough for me. But I can't help but think about how petty I must sound when I read how distressed snd challenged some of you guys are.

EdwiniasRevenge · 02/03/2013 09:44

Oh and level -1 pjs and still in bed...

SnowyMouse · 02/03/2013 09:47

Will you be able to nap and catch up a little Ed? I don't think you can overestimate the effects of poor sleep, I know professionals say it makes things feel worse. Hugs.

EdwiniasRevenge · 02/03/2013 10:01

I am home alone all day so will sleep all day if I let myself...

TheSilveryPussycat · 02/03/2013 10:07

Ed maybe you need to? Get up and do the necessary jobs, and only those, and grant yourself permission to have a nice sleep afterwards?

EdwiniasRevenge · 02/03/2013 11:22

Well...I missed my 11am deadline yo take my meds and put tge washing on...

SnowyMouse · 02/03/2013 11:52

Can you set yourself one goal at a time instead, focussing on the prorities? Just revise your deadline if it's coming close.

HellesBelles396 · 02/03/2013 13:50

Ed do whatever you need to do to improve how you feel. Just because I hate myself if I spend extra time in bed it doesn't mean it's not useful for you so I won't be nagging you about getting up anymore!

Breakthrough in understanding my current upsurge in depression symptoms. Just clearing out my wallet and my implant ran out in October - around the time my depression started to flare up every for a couple of weeks every month...

Going to get it fixed before I ovulate and it starts again Smile

bassetfeet · 02/03/2013 16:47

Helles I am firm believer that hormones play a huge part in our mental health .
Hope you feel the benefit once you get the implant again Smile . It is so good once we get some lightbulb moment in our struggles . It is not all the story of course but for me having something tangible to hook part of this illness to, gives some form of control back and something to research help.

Snowy I so wish I had some wisdom for you . Think of you so much and hope that some resolution can be made with the home team for you to stay at home and above all be safe . So relieved to see you posting .

Ed you are far too hard on yourself .we all share here our inner turmoil and I so get the mixed up words thing .......the exhaustion of any social interaction .
Hope you relax while the children are away this weekend . Maybe not in bed ,but on sofa with your crochet and book .....some nice things to eat . A lovely bath .

Thinking of everyone else today like Mama and Vicar and concerned about our Nina . A hug to all .

Not good today myself . Low and acutely afraid of the future . I know that we all can only live in the present and I manage well usually with mindfulness etc .
But sometimes it gets so overwhelming in the middle of the night doesnt it ?
And it is hard to shake off when dawn comes .

Been afraid all my life it seems .

Wave to you all and hope that the weekend is a peaceful and content one Smile

SnowyMouse · 02/03/2013 18:17

Thanks, crisis team just been, peace til morning now,

I hope everyone's having a peaceful weekend too.

NanaNina · 02/03/2013 18:50

Hello everyone - I am still in a very dark place - worst ever I think and been going on for about 12 days and I'm very scared like you BF - I have slept most of the afternoon, but feel very grim and doesn't look like I'm getting any respite this evening as I usually do. Think the bloodyHM has brought some of his mates along.

Sorry for everyone feeling crap - I just don't have anything to give xx

SnowyMouse · 02/03/2013 18:59

Oh no, NanaNina, I'm sorry things are so rough with the HM :( Do any distractions work or help?

NanaNina · 02/03/2013 21:22

Thanks snowymouse - starting to pick up a bit at last. Sometimes laptopping, colouring or watching TV but don't have the motivation today. Aim to watch a DVD later if I can improve a bit more. You are so sweet snowymouse and always concerned about others.

EdwiniasRevenge · 03/03/2013 00:07

Resume of my day.

Crap.

Flat.

Washed out.

Did quite a bit of laundry. Did quite a bit of crochet. But other than that I have nothing to show for my dday.

Had an afternoon/early evening nap. Didn't need one just did it for the sake of it.

What gets to me more than anything tho is that for every hour I sleep during the day I spend 3-4hrs in bed. There is jyst soooo much inertia.

mamakoula · 03/03/2013 04:27

I have been away for a couple of days thinking about things. There have been quite a few interesting threads and I am going to try to comment to a few of them.

Vicar, Downtime is important and vital I find; it lets dust settle and things fall into perspective. Maybe it's because it allows us to regain perspective of the bigger picture as opposed to being obsessively focussed on some minute detail. Enjoy visiting at the stables, and your dinners and family, friends etc. As BF wrote the part time option may give you the balance you need. I wish you courage as you weigh these decisions up. Ultimately, the key is to care for yourself. Without you, nothing else can proceed in your life. Change can be scary but I don't think you want things to remain as they are. If I remember (and I may be wrong) many posts back you wrote of a conversation with your DH where he asked if money was no object, what would you do? You seem focussed on being accepted for other jobs. Will this address any of the underlying factors affecting your relationship with work? I almost get the feeling that you are divided about a number of things, not sure which should receive the highest priority. Again, it's you that is the central facet to anything in your life. I wonder if some of our problems are because we sometimes forget ourselves, and I know this has been raised in the threads before.

ER your posts have made me want to find you and give you a hug! I'm sorry but that's my automatic response to distress in life, hug and care for the person. If we feel safe and accepted, we can grow. If we accept ourselves, maybe we can heal and grow. It isn't a negative lightbulb moment but a very insightful one. Use it to direct where you want to go and to effect the changes you deem important and worthy of your time and energy. It was a tremendous post, clearly written and open. Please keep posting when you need to if it helps you. It has been the beauty of this thread that it represents the multi-coloured tones of life, the up and down moments both. To be honest, it is part of what is helping me inch forward slowly.

With respect to feeling that your difficulties pale into insignificance, I can understand. Edwinia, these difficulties you face are yours and difficult to you. The thread has been welcoming to us all and if it helps to post, to rant, to come and giggle, please do. I sometimes don't post because I feel the same way, because I feel bad about letting my confusion, my tempest and tumult, my little problem on the grand scale of things, assume any importance. The reality is, it is significant in my life and this is my battle. I do feel guilt (oh, MK, I was only a little bully at work why on earth have you let it get to you so much? What is wrong with you? What happened to your career path and your life? How did you make such a mess? Honestly, you've been dragged down by what MK?). These thoughts are not helpful and you shouldn't listen to them. My problems are small relative to some other people's, but relative to me, they are a nightmare and something I haven't had to deal with before nor in such a bedraggled state. If we can help, even by listening, it is something tremendous for you and for all of us.

Reading your resume of the day post.... these were achievements of a sort. We have productive days and rest days. This was one of the latter. You are often so busy caring for your family that is only fair you get some time to rest and care for you. If you need rest, rest. I will never forget my first day when DD went to school and I trundled home, donned my pajamas and slept. Rest can be a curative but like any medicine it is not to be taken inappropriately. I now plan naps or the occasional pajama day. I saw many on this thread napped, slept, were in PJ's or nesting in their duvets. It don't advocate it as a habit but it can give some solace and rest. I did some days of very little and it has helped resettle me a bit. I would limit what I made myself do but I had a few goals. I have found avoiding days of all or nothing and trying to distribute rest and chores evenly across has helped give me more internal stability if that makes sense. Not that I am by any way out of the woods but it has helped a bit.

Snowy I'll be honest; I cannot imagine how you feel but I do understand. I hope you are restful today. If you are to be admitted, could day patient be a compromise so that at least you could have some time to yourself? Or could a day centre such as UA goes to help? I do hope that they listen to you and it can be done so that you will be in your home. From your posts, you really are a sweetheart. Take care.

hugs to UA and Bassetfeet (I always hear a pitter patter when I read your name and imagine a little face peeking around a corner)

NanaNina I would like to hear more of your friend's story if you have the time. SilveryPussycat's link has been helpful. I did write it was a little upsetting but that happens when we face pain or things we fear. It is also incredible to see the courage of people there and on here. When you are in a difficult spot, it takes a lot of strength to make a single movement, or at least for me it does. I hope your friend has moved on to better things and is happy and peaceful in life.

wave to Helles and hope the thesis is coming along. I have memories of panicking it wouldn't happen, and typing and typing forever and suddenly, as though from nowhere, .... there was this pile of pages.

Wave, hugs, Brew to all

SnowyMouse · 03/03/2013 09:09

Gosh mamakoula, that is one thoughtful, helpful and insightful post!

I can't face day hospital either, I just need to take it hour by hour, and hope that they agree I can manage.

Hugs back to you too, Ed

I hope you continue to pick up NanaNina, and as with everyone else, got some rest last night.