Hospital?

[SnowyMouse]

This evening the crisis team asked me if I would be better in hospital. There is no way I want to be in hospital, how can I persuade them otherwise? (other than saying I'm fine, which doesn't work).

Or the alternative, how can I persuade myself that I would tolerate hospital...I've had a few stays in the past?

Why do they want you to go to hospital? Do you think you would be better there? If not, then why not?

They aren't sure that I can keep myself safe at home. I find the major restrictions imposed by hospital hard (obs, food, not being allowed off the ward, not being allowed certain possessions, even down to belt and shoe laces).

I can't handle all the people talking about me behind my back - hard enough at the moment, never mind in that pressurised/toxic atmosphere.

I hope the crisis team don't suggest it again, and that my CMHT don't get similar ideas.

I really don't understand something else - I know a fair few people who have overdosed/tried to commit suicide who stay in the community, I haven't tried anything yet but they are suggesting hospital. Does that make sense to anyone?

Have you said this to them (your reasons for not wanting to go to hospital) and are there any other options? Why don't they think you can keep yourself safe?

I really don't understand something else - I know a fair few people who have overdosed/tried to commit suicide who stay in the community, I haven't tried anything yet but they are suggesting hospital. Does that make sense to anyone?

One explanation came to my mind: If you have broderline personality, a hospital stay after OD/something similar does not really help (they say). Their suicide attempts are rather impulsive, so you can't really prevent them as such. I have been told that I might have borderline personality,as my attempts have looked very impulsive. They were not, but I just did not tell anyone about my intentions.

Do you have BPD SnowMouse?

That's a view I hadn't thought of, snowbanana. I haven't told them details as such, but they surmise I have plans (not involving ODs).

Flickstix, they think I might kill myself. I live alone and am fairly low at the moment, stopped my antidepressants a few months ago. which seems to have been a poor decision. They did ask if I had anyone who could come and stay with me, but I don't.

I don't have BPD Flickstix, I've been assessed by an expert who said I don't have any PDs.

Do you think you might? Have you restarted your antidepressants since you realised it was a poor decision?

Ahh, sorry for the confusion. It was a reasonable decision to make, I hadn't been depressed for 2 years, and stopping the meds was done with the knowledge of my psych.

Do you think you might try to kill yourself? If there is any doubt in your mind then maybe you should go into hospital, from there you could negotiate/discuss your options when you feel you are ok to leave.

Are there no options other than home alone or in hospital?

Other than hoping the antidepressants kick in, I'm not sure there are many other options, keeping my preferred one of treatment in the community.

Would you consider going into hospital until they kick in, just to be on the safe side?

I'm sorry I have never been hospitalised for this kind of thing so I really can't judge, I am looking at it from a keep you safe perspective

Thanks Flickstix...it's a tough one.

If there's any doubt in your mind I would just go to hospital

Snowymouse
Think I read somewhere that people who self harm can present to to A&E as attempted suicide but actually they rarely intend to kill themselves - perhaps this explains some of the paradox?

On the hospital admission thing, is it a viable option for you to suggest to the Crisis team that right now you feel happy to be at home but agree to check-in with them on a regular basis (perhaps by phone?) and let them know if you feel the situation deteriorates?

I think that's a good plan With, thanks.

I don't think hospital is so bad ;) I know what you mean about the possessions thing. Since I have been in a few times every time I feel like I am better at it - I know what to take to keep me busy etc.

Admissions don't have to be for a long time, some people go in for 72 hours or a week. It could be an idea to restart your meds in hospital.

I would have an honest discussion with them about how you feel, and ask them what they think. I have been in situations where hospital has been advised and I have chosen not to take them up on it and situations where they have advised me to go but whether I agree or not I would be going, so you need to ask those questions.

Do you think you can be safe at home?

Ah there you are snowy, was wondering how it had gone. Agree with's idea is good. My experience of hospital is with being up, always found it interesting and found good people to talk to. But that is rather different from your current state.

How long have you been on the meds this time?

I think I've been lucky, the crisis team members that visited today and yesterday were kind and gave me time and space to try to say what was going on.

They did reconfirm that I'd rather stay in the community, and they're phoning again tonight.

I hope that the arrangement can stay as is until the meds start working again. I find it interesting how different hospitals have different rules.

Mine doesn't allow mobile phones except in a designated area, and definitely doesn't allow laptops. This gave me problems as one way of dealing with voices is to listen to music on headphones...

On the good side I am starting to be able to share bits of info, surrounding plans etc.

Nice that you can stay at home SnowyMouse.

I usually could have my mobile (the only ones allowed where ones without camera) with me apart from one hospital acute ward, where you could only use your mobile phone in nurses station. That was difficult because I play games with my mobile phone if I feel really anxious/depressed (benzos does not work or anything else). It helps even for suicidal thoughts.

Yes, a modern phone is great distraction material

I feel liberated, I couldn't face the crisis team so I said no thanks and it worked.

But are you otherwise OK snowy? Remember we are here, and you could call CMHT if you need to.