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'Billy-no-mates'. What the hell is going on? .... I've had enough

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pumpkinpie06 · 19/01/2006 15:06

Hi everyone - that is if there is anyone reading this. Forgive me for being cynical but - really - sometimes I think I must be an experiment on the Truman Show.

I'd be interested to know if heres anyone else who is suffering in the same situation as me - I hope not - as I wouldn't wish this on anyone.

Okay - I'm in my late 20's with three wonderful daughters and a caring husband. BUT since I moved to this area 10 (yes 10) years ago I feel like I must be walking around with either a/extremely bad breath or b/ body odour (or maybe I'm just a really horrible person?!?).

I've met people and made aquantances .... but as it stands there is not 1 single person who I can truly call a close friend. Some people just don't bother getting in touch, others make plans to meet but then keep cancelling until I can't be bothered any more. Some people go so far as to be quite standoffish ...WHY????

I'm not rude, I try to be kind, friendly and helpful when I can be. I am not desperate (thankfully I dont mind my own company too much and my kids keep me busy). I am not overbearing or have a very loud embarrasing laugh (at least I dont think so!)

I think you get the idea.

I SERIOUSLY feel like I am on the outside looking in and it only seems to get worse. More than my concern for myself (even though I admit I have been close to suicidal) I am concerned for my children as I need to be role model for them and I should be setting a good example of how to be sociable etc.

Sorry - I'm going on.

I've even tried the 'meet ups' on mumsnet and was met with a, shall we say, 'lukewarm' response.

Please help

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pebblemum · 23/01/2006 22:31

Its strange but tru motherhood can be lonely and we are often taken for granted. Everyone expects us to be able to deal with everything ourselves and dont realise we need help, affection etc now and again. Although we are surrounded by our kids it is not the same as having people your own age around is it?

me23 · 23/01/2006 22:32

pebblemum, That must be hard not having much time with your dh, his hours aren't very sociable to say the least.

my dd is 7 months, so I wouldn't really want to leave here with anyone for too long.

thridtimeround: hi! how old are your kids? how long how you been in austrailia?
think its great you're thinking of setting up your own group.

personally not something I'd want to do, I'm not organized (to say the least) and I'm not confident enough to lead something like that.

thirdtimeround · 23/01/2006 23:17

Hi Me23. I am actually australian so I have lived here all my life. My kids are dd 10,ds1 2nearly 3, ds2 9months. I find your forums much better than the Australian ones, dont know why? I havent had time to myself for a very long time. My 9mnth old wont stay with anyone and is a difficult sleeper. I am currently weaning him and trying controlled comforting. My dp and I are part of a bridal party at a wedding in March and we will be away all day and night. My MIL will be looking after the children for the weekend but I am concerned because my lot dont see her often. Worried about how my baby will go but cant wait for the time with my dp alone

pumpkinpie06 · 24/01/2006 08:40

Hi everyone...
pebblemum ... how are things going. Just and idea .. sometimes men take us for granted when we are just 'there' for them (which I realise is difficult to get out of when you've got kids at home). Sometimes - I think they respect us alot more for being more independant and doing our own thing.
Don't get me wrong - i'm not into playing mind games or being manipulative - but if my dh is taking me for granted (which is inevitable now and then) then I put a bit more effort into going out by myself and interesting myself with something other than him ... does any of that make sense?

Childern ... pebblemum is absolutely right. We are all in the same boat, so please don't feel alone.

I, too , like the suggestion of starting a group (I find the mums and tots groups round here very clicky) But you wouldn't be able to 'vet' the people coming in and so it'd probably end up being as bad as all the others!!!

big ((((((hug)))))) to everyone this morning

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childern · 24/01/2006 09:06

hi it is so nice to know that i'm being silly thank you every one {grin] i should come on here alot more, hope eveyone has a nice day. Lets all dull our selves up look like the bee's knees and knock them dead. x x x x x

pumpkinpie06 · 24/01/2006 16:10

... hufffff, another agonising school run. Was running late and consequently got stuck behind clicky mum #1 (the one who snubs me for NO REASON WHATSOEVER) and clicky mum #2 (her sidekick???)

oooh I hate the school run

Sorry to moan ... just needed to let off steam.

Hope everyone elses day has been more posiive?

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pebblemum · 24/01/2006 18:43

Ive had no hot water all day!! And I cant get it fixed until tomorrow as I am not a priority case (I still have heating). I found this out after waiting in all day for the gas man. I have spent the whole day boiling the kettle.

Oh and I had dentist first thing this morning

Not a good day for me either, pumpkin

childern · 24/01/2006 19:21

why are some mums sooo snotty when we are all at the school for the same reason. What makes them think that they are so much better than any one else?!!!!!!! Just remeber you are so much nicer than they are.

pumpkinpie06 · 24/01/2006 19:35

Cheers Childern

How are you today?

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notasheep · 24/01/2006 19:55

pumpkin-the mums at dds school are much the same i have managed to find ONE who i get on with,trust and can rely on.This particular Mum was brought up on a rough council estate in Liverpool and ended up at Cambridge University.She is so open minded.

We have compiled nicknames for the horrid mums;
Mrs Next (different outfit every day)and always carrying Next Carrier bags.
Mrs Footballers Wife( big range rover with personalised number plate)lots of makeup,sounds like a drain.
Lady Muck of Cow Shit Farm-speaks for itself.

And so on!

thirdtimeround · 24/01/2006 21:52

I stopped doing the school run here because I couldnt stand the fakeness. Here in Australia it is exactly the same. Except that they are nice to your face and talk behind your back. Cant be bothered, too old for schoolgirl antics from mothers of school age children. Put my ds(10) on the bus now. She likes it that way. Doesnt have to listen to mum moan and groan about all the snooty mothers and all the feral cows.

notasheep · 24/01/2006 21:59

school bus definately a good move

UCM · 25/01/2006 00:20

Groat, I would love to meet for a coffee. Email me at

[email protected]

if you want to meet up.

pumpkinpie06 · 25/01/2006 06:16

lol notashaeep

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Misspiggy · 25/01/2006 13:35

Just catching up - Excellent, Notasheep! I think your Mrs Footballer's Wife has lots of cousins and all their children go to my DS's school - the Range Rovers are always parked up on the pavements right outside school as they can't totter too far in their stiletto boots. Pumpkin - sorry you had a lousy day, "don't let the buggers get you down" as the saying goes (will mail you tonight)

childern · 25/01/2006 13:55

hi pupkin yes i feel alot better thank you hope you haveing a better day. I like all the names that some of you have for snotty mums, must say the ones at my sons school are nice we do have one that would be cauld a miss next she looks down at you all the while, my son [who is only 3.5] loves her daughter {thats all you need isn't it}the mums i stand with all have small children as well, so we take it in turns to stand with the pushchairs while we take the bigger ones in. what it will be like when he starts full time school we will wait to see.

notasheep · 25/01/2006 14:50

Well,i am off to do the school run-WALKING! i am the one in Blue Doctor Martens and a very unflattering hat-its FREEZING out.

This lot wouldnt dream of wearing a hat,may mess up there hair after all!!!

UCM · 25/01/2006 14:56

I haven't done the school run yet. DS too young. Do I need to be scared in advance. It sounds quite daunting.

childern · 25/01/2006 16:06

ucm if you get a nice bunch of mums who are just like you { there for a chat and because of the kids} no you have nothing to worry about, but for some strange reason some just think that they are above you.

pumpkinpie06 · 25/01/2006 16:11

You're in good company notasheep....
For my ensemble today I had dh's black fleece hat and my old kickers (which my dd kindly tells me look more like school shoes than 'mummy shoes'!! (thanks for that dd)

I wouldn't say I'm 'yummy mummy' material but I, too, do the school run on foot
.....well a girls got to be practical ...darling!!!!

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notasheep · 25/01/2006 21:02

Funny that-my hat was dps fleece too!

groat · 26/01/2006 13:58

Has anyone seen the new thread about people like us? Am I being sensitive or are those people just mean? I am not weird I do smile at Mums I know I just don't want to be rude and cut into their conversations. If you're open to new people joining in don't stand around in little circles and try and make others feel welcome. Not too much to ask is it?
Grrrrrr!!!

Mumbree · 26/01/2006 14:50

Hello All!

Ho hum - sounds like my entire life. In my 30 years experience I truly believe that there are very few sane, straightforward, nice, funny women out there and that the playgound continues to be the playground for some of us for a long time. Problem is you go through a phase where you are so desperate to please that you lose a bit of sanity/confidence for a while. I have had to accept that only I can see my stunning personality and that accepting my loner status has made me a bit calmer. I'd still like a group of buddies but alas tis not to be. I am now doubley bggrd by living in an area where english is not the first language (if at all spoken by the mums here). I think most of them think I'm a nanny.....

Twiglett · 26/01/2006 14:52

oops I have only just seen this thread and would like to say my thread re playground has nothing whatsoever to do with this thread which I haven't read .. NOTHING AT ALL

groat · 26/01/2006 17:09

ok twiglett just me being sensitive then. Sorry!