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Fasting / 5:2 diet

Talk about intermittent fasting and 5:2, including what’s worked for others. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Blood sugar diet thread 13

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 28/11/2018 18:21

Here’s the new thread for the BSD followers. Everyone is welcome to join us. Here’s a quick recap!

The BSD is a low carb, Mediterranean style way of eating, with the primary aim of stabilising your insulin response when you eat. You achieve this by: eating fewer carbs, cutting out sugar and sweet tasting foods including most fruit, and by following a low calorie plan that reduces your visceral fat meaning that everything functions more effectively. Less insulin means less fat storage (in a nutshell, although more info can be found on this online). The diet was designed to reduce T2 diabetes symptoms (or even reverse it entirely) but can also be used for weightloss.

Eat:
Meats and fish
Oils
Eggs
Full fat dairy products
Nuts, seeds
Pulses/ beans
Veg that grows above ground
Limit fruit: apples, pears, berries- in moderation, with meals, with fats

Occasional alcoholic drinks allowed (spirits, red wine are preferable to beer, lager, etc)
Tea and coffee, herbal tea etc.
And water- drink lots of water!

Avoid
sugar, sweets, and ‘naturally occurring sugars’ such as fructose, maltose, honey, agave, puréed dates etc....

Potatoes of any variety
Pasta
Rice
Breakfast cereals (occasional steel cut oats are ok)
Breads/ flour based products

Exercise:
Michael Moseley recommends HIIT workouts to increase calorie burn and help to tone up, and recommends walking more (increasing your steps weekly until you hit around 10000 a day)

Mindfulness
MM also suggests a programme of mindfulness, meditation, practised for a few minutes each day.

How to follow the plan:
8 weeks BSD- 8 weeks, follow the guidelines above- 800 calories a day. You don’t need to count carbs grams because the diet is naturally self limiting.
BSD 5:2- for a more leisurely weightloss journey, or as maintenance, or once you’ve done an 8 week stint, you can play around with a combination of increased calorie count, ‘free eating’ and fasting days (800 cals) until you achieve your goals. Many of our long standing members now follow this approach.

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BuffaloCauliflower · 15/02/2019 17:15

I love Jerusalem artichoke. Yes they make you farty but that’s because they’re amazing fibre powerhouses and sooo good for your gut microbes, plus the carbs are inulin not starch so don’t raise your blood sugar. Basically a superfood.

Firsttimemama2017 · 15/02/2019 17:34

Hello everyone, can I join in here? Planning on starting the blood sugar diet on Monday. Very nervous about the idea of 800 calories a day and am a total carbaholic! I am around 2 stone overweight at the moment so need to do something!

thenewaveragebear1983 · 15/02/2019 18:01

I've never tried Jerusalem artichoke, what would you do with it?

Buffalo when I want mash, I do mashed peas (petit pois are best as they mash smoother) with butter, salt and pepper and goats cheese. Really yummy, although maybe not when you feel sicky? If we have Indian takeaway, which is quite rare, I tend to go for starters rather than mains as they are often drier so I'll have tandoori chicken, or prawns, and some sort of spicey veg.

Feeling a bit rubbish at the moment, i've gained several pounds this year and was 10.7 this morning, which is a gain of 3.5lbs ish although I've yo-yo'd up and down a fair bit since 1st Jan. Now, the sensible me is saying this is likely water and/or muscle gain as I increased my calories deliberately as I was running so much and maybe my body has gobbled them all up to make muscle as I've been running harder than ever, longer distances, and doing strength training. But because I know deep down I've been having more carbs than I really should and probably not being particularly healthy, obviously I am blaming that and feeling a bit peed off with myself.
I have done my measurements this morning so that I can monitor it a bit better for the next few weeks, but maybe it's the kick up the bum I need to snap out of my cycle of eating badly.

So, onwards! Tonight I've used a Jamie Oliver recipe for a Ghanaian groundnut chicken stew, which actually smells amazing, which I will have with loads of veg, and some Greek yoghurt and berries for pud.

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 15/02/2019 18:01

And welcome firsttimemama

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Ratatouille76 · 15/02/2019 18:41

Hello can I please join. I've had high blood sugar before and the last few weeks I am constantly starving so think blood sugar will be high again. I really need to eat better but I do all the cooking and meal planning and husband has stopped eating meat and kids are fussy so it's very very difficult. I don't want to be cooking lots of different meals.

thenewaveragebear1983 · 15/02/2019 19:06

Hi ratatouille! Welcome.

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Ratatouille76 · 15/02/2019 19:35

Thank you! I've totally lost my way with eating. Eating rubbish. Tired and hungry all the time. I've had high blood sugar before and waiting for new blood results. Husband also just given up meat. I have no idea what I should be eating.

Ratatouille76 · 15/02/2019 19:52

Can anyone give me so meal suggestions please. I'm still eating meat.

thenewaveragebear1983 · 15/02/2019 19:54

Ratatouille so you eat meat, Dh doesn't? And you want to cut carbs, but he will still eat them? In that case I'd be suggesting something like chicken breast, creamy mushroom sauce, green veg (for you) then do baked potato for Dh to have with the mushroom sauce and veg? So pretty much one meal except everyone's having different components. He could add something like quorn to his if he wants (you can have meat subs on this plan too though, so that could also work?)

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wowfudge · 15/02/2019 19:57

Chicken stir fry with sliced onion, chopped garlic, broccoli florets, season with soy and Szechuan pepper and serve with courgetti or cauliflower rice.

Salmon baked with a bit of butter and some capers. Serve with mixed veg.

Roast chicken breast with lemon and herbs served with veggies.

wowfudge · 15/02/2019 20:03

Forgot the veggie suggestions! Sub Quorn pieces or steak strips in the stir fry and a quorn not chicken breast for the chicken. Lentils are the lowest carb legume and make good stews, soups and houmous.

Ratatouille76 · 15/02/2019 20:15

Great thank you! I like lentils he doesn't but he has said he will try them again. Trying to incorporate the kids meals as well!!

wowfudge · 15/02/2019 20:54

The Quorn steak strips are nothing like steak, but tasty and low carb. I also like the peppered Quorn steaks. I'm not paid by them, honestly Grin, I just find their stuff convenient. You can make veggie meatballs using soya (or Quorn!) mince and cauli rice, add chopped fried onion, garlic and seasoning, herbs, some chopped nuts and a beaten egg. Roasted vegetables mixed with passata makes a great sauce.

Ratatouille76 · 15/02/2019 22:07

Thank you! Feeling quite positive about it. Has anyone seen an increase in their energy levels?

wowfudge · 16/02/2019 10:01

I certainly feel better - in fact I haven't had a single migraine since the start of my period last month. I usually have several a month. I have had a major source of stress removed, but I do wonder if what I am eating is the major difference.

MikeHannigansStripyShirt · 16/02/2019 10:20

I’ve come to the conclusion that I can’t do this when I’m working nights - I’ve had several days (nights!) of sensible on-plan food supplemented by vast quantities of toast...

Still only 0.2 of a lb damage today (though how I have no idea. I thought I’d be right back to square one!) and I’m an inch down on my waist from when I started. Back on it today.

BuffaloCauliflower · 16/02/2019 10:36

Welcome newbies! I really haven’t found it that hard, though planning each day in advance has really helped, especially a few days where I need all my days meals on me when I leave the house, and giving myself a bit of leeway as I adjust to learning what best for me to eat on plan but not feel hungry. Like I’m quite happy with a long fast overnight, but I do need to eat something by about 11am, and then have lunch about 2ish. I also don’t mind eating the same thing over and over if it’s nice. This week it’s been a salad with leaves, avocado, feta and olives dressed with smoked paprika, lemon juice and salt and pepper. Also a lot of salmon and eggs! I don’t eat meat but do eat fish, Quorn sausages have been a good feature. I love pasta and rice and though I’ve been missing them, I haven’t been craving them, which is an important disctinction to make.

I’d didn’t cave last night, except for a few Pringles and some red wine. Ate lots of cheesy nibbles and veg, so didn’t count calories but stayed on plan.

Down to 10st 12lbs this morning, so that’s a 10lb loss in 12 days. Feeling very good about that, I haven’t had a 10 at the beginning of my weight in a looong time. DP has already commented ok looking slimmer and it’s so motivating to see it coming off quickly and relatively easily. That’s included a few days nearer to 900kcal and the odd one up to 1000 where i wasn’t feeling too well (PMT, not related to this diet)

BuffaloCauliflower · 16/02/2019 10:37

MikeHannigansStripyShirt night shifts aren’t great for humans in general, especially when you’re flipping back and forth. Could you eat more but keep it on plan to avoid the toast binges?

thenewaveragebear1983 · 16/02/2019 13:13

I'd be terrible if I worked nights, I am bad enough sleeping as it is. From next week I'm going to listen to Paul mckenna's sleep hypnosis at night to try to improve my sleep quality. I suppose the key mike is to have food prepped and just ban the toast, so you aren't tempted, but that's definitely easier said that done.

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Ratatouille76 · 16/02/2019 13:34

So far today I've had avocado, 2 poached eggs and mushrooms as brunch. Bought raspberries and full fat greek yoghurt and nuts to have instead of chocolate!

BuffaloCauliflower · 16/02/2019 15:23

Sounds good Ratatouille. What are you using to track calories and are you weighing? (Assuming you’re doing standard 8 weeks 800 calories BSD)

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BuffaloCauliflower · 16/02/2019 15:42

A pound is still a pound! Well done. Meal planning definitely helps, as well as planning whole days in advance

Ratatouille76 · 16/02/2019 15:56

No I'm not. I'm just trying to cut out or at least dramatically cut down on carbs and sugar.

BuffaloCauliflower · 16/02/2019 16:01

Fair enough Smile

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