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Fasting / 5:2 diet

Talk about intermittent fasting and 5:2, including what’s worked for others. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Blood sugar diet thread 13

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 28/11/2018 18:21

Here’s the new thread for the BSD followers. Everyone is welcome to join us. Here’s a quick recap!

The BSD is a low carb, Mediterranean style way of eating, with the primary aim of stabilising your insulin response when you eat. You achieve this by: eating fewer carbs, cutting out sugar and sweet tasting foods including most fruit, and by following a low calorie plan that reduces your visceral fat meaning that everything functions more effectively. Less insulin means less fat storage (in a nutshell, although more info can be found on this online). The diet was designed to reduce T2 diabetes symptoms (or even reverse it entirely) but can also be used for weightloss.

Eat:
Meats and fish
Oils
Eggs
Full fat dairy products
Nuts, seeds
Pulses/ beans
Veg that grows above ground
Limit fruit: apples, pears, berries- in moderation, with meals, with fats

Occasional alcoholic drinks allowed (spirits, red wine are preferable to beer, lager, etc)
Tea and coffee, herbal tea etc.
And water- drink lots of water!

Avoid
sugar, sweets, and ‘naturally occurring sugars’ such as fructose, maltose, honey, agave, puréed dates etc....

Potatoes of any variety
Pasta
Rice
Breakfast cereals (occasional steel cut oats are ok)
Breads/ flour based products

Exercise:
Michael Moseley recommends HIIT workouts to increase calorie burn and help to tone up, and recommends walking more (increasing your steps weekly until you hit around 10000 a day)

Mindfulness
MM also suggests a programme of mindfulness, meditation, practised for a few minutes each day.

How to follow the plan:
8 weeks BSD- 8 weeks, follow the guidelines above- 800 calories a day. You don’t need to count carbs grams because the diet is naturally self limiting.
BSD 5:2- for a more leisurely weightloss journey, or as maintenance, or once you’ve done an 8 week stint, you can play around with a combination of increased calorie count, ‘free eating’ and fasting days (800 cals) until you achieve your goals. Many of our long standing members now follow this approach.

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EmmaGrundyForPM · 12/01/2019 12:16

well done a damn fine cup of coffee. I'm going to see how I feel at the end of next week, and then either continue for two weeks or move to 5:2. I hope I'll be able to keep it p for a month but I can't see myself doing 8 weeks.

Like you, I've been surprised at how I haven't felt ravenous. Usually, my weakest time is when I get in from work starving and aid the fridge whilst making dinner But I haven't felt like that over the past 10 days.

I really hope I can lose a stone by the end of January, that would be amazing.

Justanothergirl19 · 12/01/2019 12:49

Hello everyone,
Day 5 here and 6.5lb down. I almost can't believe it. Feel good and motivated. Had eggs with spinach and 50gr of smoked salmon as my breakfast/lunch, will probably have some yoghurt and berries for mid afternoon snack and I am thinking a prawn stir fry for dinner. I find it so much easier to eat in the 12-8 hour window. It's plenty of food and the rest of the time food is just not something I think about (except I think about what I will eat all the time, I just don't entertain eating.
Only thing that is on my mind at the moment is how dreadful I look: deep, black circles under my eyes, really much much worse than normal (with plenty of sleep). I wonder why.

CarolDanvers · 12/01/2019 12:56

Salmon Salad with a small helping of potato salad for lunch. Home made, spinach and mushroom bhaji for dinner, no rice but I have never been keen on it anyway. No breakfast but had a spoonful of peanut butter mid morning. Peanut butter has been a revelation actually as I LOVE it but haven’t allowed myself to eat it for years. With this eating plan though when I feel hungry I have a teaspoon to take the edge off it and just that small amount takes the hunger pangs away plus feels massively indulgent. I’m fasting 16-17 hours every night as I eat my last meal at 16.30/17.00 and then nothing till brunch the next day. I was originally planning to just do the two weeks but think I am going to try for the 8 weeks now Smile

Gymntonic · 12/01/2019 14:07

Well done everyone.
3.5 lbs off this week for me whish us great seeing as I only started calorie counting on Wednesday. Parkrun this morning.
Just had brunch - egg on low carb toast whilst cooking broccoli and stilton soup. Salmon stir-fry for later.

thenewaveragebear1983 · 12/01/2019 20:36

Struggled again today. It was all going well but then we went to pizza express at lunch. I chose a salad, all good, then when I got home I googled it and it was nearly 1000 calories!!!!!!! No way!! So then I decided not to have the lovely BSD friendly but high calorie dinner we'd planned. But annoyingly I was thoroughly pissed off and just went on a cupboard raid, eating all loads of rubbish- I should have just stuck to the plan! So altogether thoroughly peed off today!

Calories/carbs- don't know but probably lots. 21k steps (ran 15k this morning)

I'm putting my days indulgence down to recovery from my bug, and being due on in 3 days. I have planned for tomorrow, and provided I stick to the plan I could pull it back by weigh in on Wednesday!!

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TwoLads · 12/01/2019 22:10

Shit happens Bear - don't beat yourself up. Tomorrow is a new day.

Another social thing today. Stuck to seafood, steak and salad but skipped the chips and onion rings as well as booze. Feeling very proud of myself. Prob a bit over at 900/1000cals but I'm trying my best.

APlaceAtTheBSDTable · 12/01/2019 23:49

I've been absolutely exhausted the last few days. I don't know if it's a bug, hormones or iron levels. On the plus side, it means I've not been very hungry. I'm having to force myself to reach 800 cals. DH picked up the new book for me today so I'm looking forward to trying the recipes when my appetite is back.

Oblomov19 · 13/01/2019 06:57

I've had a nightmare too Bear. Worse!! 2400, including a roast chicken, the chicken itself 382 where I ate roast parsnips 189, which I later logged as the whole thing obviously humongous. Angry

Later I went diabetically low, so used it as an excuse to not only drink some lucozade but eat some minstrels left over from Christmas. Hmm

EmmaGrundyForPM · 13/01/2019 07:30

Don't be too hard on yourselves. It's a brief lapse not a relapse!

I went to a party last night where there was a buffet. I ate a small piece of chicken and lots of salad. I also deliberately drove so that I wouldn't be tempted to drink. And then told everyone I was doing dry January so that I couldn't change my mind and decide to drink and walk home.

Gymntonic · 13/01/2019 11:22

bear you're so supportive of everyone else - just remember to cut yourself some slack. You bounced back very quickly from d and v bug - maybe your body's lost nutrients that it's craving.
Oblomov -upwards and onwards.
Hip playing up on long run this morning. Really need to get in gym and finally build up my leg muscles and glutes.
Diet ok. Need to plan for week ahead. "Fail to plan and you plan to fail" and all that.

Justanothergirl19 · 13/01/2019 11:56

I have been listening to a very good audiobook for a while called "Better than before" which is all about establishing good habits and found this helpful this morning:" Rather than turn a stumble into a fall, view the day in 4 quarters rather than a whole, so if you've indulged at lunch, for example, you still have 2 quarters of the day to get back on the plan, rather than write off the day, which normally means really go for all the bad foods and ending up feeling wretched at the end of the day". Eating badly for all the 4 quarters of the day will make it so much harder to get back on the wagon the following day as the (perceived) damage is so much greater.
Free yourselves from guilt and look forward, you have done so amazingly so far, let's not forget that x

Westwing1 · 13/01/2019 14:37

Hi everyone, I will catch up on thread at some point. Horrible horrible week, DD had serious accident at school, ambulance, hospital, tests, lots of waiting. She is home now and needing lots of care but on the mend. DH and I are exhausted and stressed. Still doing dry Jan but lots of junk carb meals at hospital.

thenewaveragebear1983 · 13/01/2019 15:19

West hope your dd is ok Thanks

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CarolDanvers · 13/01/2019 18:14

Sorry to hear about your dd West. Glad she’s on the mend.

About 880 calories today, so slightly more than usual but did go for a 5km run and a long dog walk. Weighing tomorrow. I’ve only got a stone and a half to lose so I am not expecting miracles. Will be happy with a couple of pounds and then intend to carry that on for another seven weeks. We shall see!

adamnfinecupofcoffee · 13/01/2019 19:29

West wishing your dd better Thanks

Need to stop weighing myself everyday....not good

Also TMI but I'm seriously constipated. Gah.

thenewaveragebear1983 · 13/01/2019 19:48

I've written out my menu for the week ahead. I'm doing the chicken and lentil curry from the 800 book tomorrow, and then various others during the week. I am determined to get my head back in the game from tomorrow, I've gone completely off track and it doesn't feel good.

We have a wedding in 2 weekends time and I planned to wear a rather slinky tight dress so that is my motivation- it's very unforgiving and there's no room for a pot belly!

So my menu is planned, my workouts/runs all in the calendar. I'm going to try and do an extended fast tomorrow morning, and just tune back into my hunger signals and try to get out of this cycle of mindless eating. It's back to basics for me this week!

Have a good week!

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Justanothergirl19 · 13/01/2019 19:55

Well done Bear, sounds like you are back in control x

Justanothergirl19 · 13/01/2019 20:02

If you don't mind me asking, do you mean the Blood sugar diet recipe book or a different 800 calorie book?

thenewaveragebear1983 · 13/01/2019 20:40

Sorry I mean the new Fast 800 book.
To be honest I've never cooked much from the original BSD 8 weeks book, it never really took my fancy. This new one has several things I'm planning to try.

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APlaceAtTheBSDTable · 13/01/2019 21:26

West that sounds horrendous. Your poor DD ! And you. It's so stressful when DCs are hurt. Be kind to yourself. Flowers
Bear the wedding sounds like a great motivator.

I've had about 700 cals today. DS had lots of project homework for school Hmm so its been very busy with little opportunity for snacking.

TwoLads · 13/01/2019 23:15

Well 10 days since my first new year weigh in and I've now done the 800 cals thing for a whole week - 1 stone and 4 pounds off. Incredible. Looking forward to seeing if/what I lose in week 2.

Good luck with a new week everyone.

Your planning sounds really good bear I need to do the same.

TwoLads · 13/01/2019 23:17

I tell a lie - 1 stone 6 pounds!

Am going to try and not weigh myself so often this week

rytonsister · 13/01/2019 23:26

Place marking. Might be what I need ....

TwoLads · 13/01/2019 23:39

west completely missed you post. Hope you and dd are ok soon Flowers

PenelopeFlintstone · 14/01/2019 00:36

@TwoLads - 1 stone 6lbs in 10 days? Just checking for inspiration!!

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