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Fasting / 5:2 diet

Talk about intermittent fasting and 5:2, including what’s worked for others. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Blood sugar diet thread 9

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 18/01/2018 20:16

Shiny new thread for the blood sugar dieters!

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thenewaveragebear1983 · 23/02/2018 20:16

I feel like I’ve hit a wall today, I could honestly go through the kitchen cupboards and eat and eat and eat. Not sure why, my foods been good actually, but a little too much of it. I just have mega chocolate cravings! I’m trying hard to resist because I don’t want the floodgate to open.

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londonista · 23/02/2018 21:35

I wonder if it's because it's Friday? I've just been out for dinner and had a whole rack of ribs and coleslaw! I didn't have any wine though so that was something.

I know what you mean about chocolate- there is no substitute really is there (sorry ... not helping!)

thenewaveragebear1983 · 23/02/2018 21:58

No London there isn’t! I didn’t cave though, I had some mango slices instead (not allowed, obvs, but I figured better than one of the dc’s chocolate bars!). It’s been a rare occurrence the last few weeks and makes me realise just how at the mercy of my cravings I used to be, so in a way it’s a positive. I wonder if it’s as a result of having sugar yesterday?

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AromaticSpices · 23/02/2018 22:01

I definitely find as soon as the floodgates open even a little it’s v hard to close those gates again. Hopefully you can draw a line and start afresh tomorrow and try and avoid the sweet stuff. After five days of not even any fruit I had grapes with yoghurt last night and it tasted so sweet, madness.

RarelyInfallible · 24/02/2018 06:29

I’m lucky in that I don’t really like chocolate/sweet stuff that much. I’ve been buying these to try to wean my son off chocolate, and they’re pretty low sugar and he reckons they’re great. Can you get these over there? I also had a bit of the “it’s Friday night and I deserve a treat” thing - managed to keep off the wine and have a few raspberries with a little Greek yogurt.

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bridgetreilly · 24/02/2018 08:10

Someone told me yesterday that beetroot is supposed to have the same feel-good chemicals as chocolate. If you like beetroot, might be worth a try. Personally, I can't stand it. And obviously you don't get the same eating experience.

thenewaveragebear1983 · 24/02/2018 08:48

Rarely what is in the bar? We have things in our supermarket which are dressed up as ‘goodness bars’ made with dried fruit and nuts, blended into a sort of solid smooth paste. I have looked fondly at them but as they are made with dates they are definitely not BSD, it would be better to have chocolate!

I did keep off the chocolate, but I did graze a bit and had a few glasses of wine. I’m just tired I think, I find the school holidays hard work so it’s been quite a long week and because Dh has been off we’ve been busier than usual and also staying up later. And I’m definitely convinced that I weakened my resolve by having cake on Thursday, which I suppose I should just learn from and accept that one piece of cake carries not just its own calories but also all the additional eating and inconvenience of a few difficult days to follow.

So anyway, onwards! Today: resist the urge to be lazy and keep the steps up, run this afternoon, lots of water, and back to calorie counting rather than just eating! Dh is out tonight so I’m not going to drink, and hopefully get a decent nights sleep too.

Have a great weekend!

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Oblomov18 · 24/02/2018 10:18

Agree that once you open the floodgates......

I love chocolate, wine, crisps. Mashed potato. Really badly.

I am doing well with breakfast and lunch, then bingeing on all the above in the evenings.

I think I need to re-think all this.

Went to Asda yesterday (normally shop at Sainsbury) and thought I'd give these 2 a go.

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RarelyInfallible · 24/02/2018 12:53

Not sure what’s in the bar, will have a look next time I buy some. But I looked through loads and it was the lowest % carb and sugar, only about 3% sugar I think. Not for me, for son who is not BSDing but is a bit on the heavy side.

Oblomov18 · 24/02/2018 13:57

I feel very different about those bars and their ilk. I just don't bother.

It's because since aged 3 or 4, my mum was told not to bother with diabetic chocolate, because it was filled with saccharin, sweetness, aspartame etc. Many found it gave them diarrhoea. So, my mum didn't bother. She just very occasionally gave me a tiny bit of real chocolate/what everyone else was having.

So now, if I want a bit of chocolate, I'll eat the type of chocolate I want, rather than a substitute.

thenewaveragebear1983 · 24/02/2018 14:16

Oblomov I agree re: substitutes, they never match up. I also think the way they market these ‘healthy bars’ as being a better choice is really exploitative because they often really aren’t. A lot of the paleo type/raw bars are 50% dates, plus they cram a lot more in for the volume as they are puréed. Dried fruit is pretty much the worst thing you can eat on this plan, so I do avoid, but a quick scan round the supermarket and you’d be forgiven for thinking these are good, healthy choices for adults and kids.

Companies have jumped on the sugar free bandwagon and all this about things being ‘no added sugar’ with *naturally occurring fruit sugars only in teeny weeny letters. The amount of people who’ve given me advice about fruit being ok, because it’s natural..... I usually just nod and smile, but sometimes if I’m feeling grouchy I’ll casually point out that sugar cane is a naturally occurring sugar.....

The best was, in a magazine article about how sugar isn’t really that evil, a journalist had written how even white table sugar only has a GI Of 50 (yes, because the other 50% is fructose which as we all know, is just as bad if not worse, and doesn’t affect glucose!) I think if we learn anything from this it’s to read all the labels on everything- eat it if you want, but eat it knowingly. People are often infuriatingly unaware of what they eat, and doing this plan definitely tunes me in to exactly what I eat and what it does to me.

My dc are still largely sugar free since January. Interestingly, we were at a friends this morning and they had a biscuit, only a little Maryland cookie. Neither of them finished it. One day last week after little Ds had been at his grandparents, he was still up at 9.00 bouncing off the walls. Quick interrogation of chat with Ds1 reveals that he’d had a Cadbury yogurt after tea. So it really does affect him, we just didn’t notice it when he was having sugar all the time.

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londonista · 24/02/2018 14:31

Bridget ... how about chocolate covered beetroot?!! Grin

bridgetreilly · 24/02/2018 14:56

Londonista, sounds like a waste of good chocolate to me!

Oblomov18 · 24/02/2018 14:57

Yum London! I love beetroot. And I love chocolate! Grin

londonista · 24/02/2018 18:57

😂😂😂😂

permanentlyfrazzled1 · 24/02/2018 19:43

Hi! Is everyone here doing the 800 cals a day for 8 weeks, or is there anyone taking the 5:2 approach? Hubby and I started the 5:2 this week, having Wednesday and Friday as our fasting days. We'd been veggie for 4 years but decided to reintroduce a little meat to make the diet a bit easier. I'm finding it a bit of a pain cooking separately for us because I'm used to just providing one huge pot of something for all 6 of us, but determined to stick with it to hopefully lose the bellies and bring our bmi down into the healthy range. Any useful tips very welcome!

thenewaveragebear1983 · 24/02/2018 20:16

Hi permanently, welcome!

I do a 5:2 ish approach, not really intentionally, but I’m rubbish at sticking to 800 calories! I’ll call it my 2:3:2 approach: 2 days 800:3 days 1000 and then 2 days (weekend) where it’s more like 12-1400. I really should work harder to get 4-5 days at 800 but unless I am totally housebound and Uber-focussed it just doesn’t seem to happen! I am aiming for an 800 week from Monday though, and I know that it gets results so it should spur me on!

I think the key to the 5:2 working is, unlike mosely’s original 5:2 plan where you could eat ‘anything’ on the 5 days, on this because you have 800 cals in the fasting days, the 5 days still need to adhere to the Mediterranean diet principles.

With regards to the family cooking, it is infinitely easier I find to do variations of meals that can have carbs added for the dc in the form of roasties, chips, those rice pouches etc and just have mine with veg. I like those steam bags, they are a reasonable portion but not a huge amount and they cook really quickly in the microwave. I cook for 5 Of us, only myself doing BSD, with a few variations but generally everyone eats the same main component with each meal.

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bridgetreilly · 24/02/2018 23:49

I think there is another thread for people specifically doing 5:2 isn't there? Dunno. I'm doing the full 8 weeks at 800 cals.

Zazu44 · 25/02/2018 08:37

Hi starting today as diagnosed as pre diabetic and carrying weight especially round my middle. Any tips would be welcome and also I've set my mfp to 20% carbs 45% fats and 35% protein - does this sound ok?

bridgetreilly · 25/02/2018 09:16

FINALLY! I've spent nearly 3 weeks hovering just above 16 stone - going up a bit, down a bit, and coming oh-so-close (I was 16' 0 1/4 yesterday!!). And today my scales say 15'12. HOORAY!!!

bridgetreilly · 25/02/2018 09:29

Zazu, if you're following the BSD you shouldn't really need to worry too much about counting carbs, because you won't be eating them! Have you got the book and read it carefully?

Good luck!

bridgetreilly · 25/02/2018 09:43

Sorry for all the posts! Just came across this on the BBC website from Michael Mosley about 10,000 steps and a better way to make walking improve your health: www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-42864061

Zazu44 · 25/02/2018 09:59

I have got the book and have read through I just thought I should use mfp so I know how many calories I'm having?

thenewaveragebear1983 · 25/02/2018 10:00

Bridget there is a whole load of threads for 5:2 but they tend to be the traditional 500 cals/eat what you like 5:2ers. The BSD 5:2 is a bit different because its suggested either as a maintenance plan, or as a slower weightloss route but still following the BSD principles. I do find it works quite well for me.

Welcome zazu, this diet is for you! Have you got the book/kindle edition? If not I’d suggest you get them and have a good read. I don’t use mfp, so I don’t set macros as such, but as Bridget said, you don’t really need to. I find simply avoidance of ‘the big 5’ (pasta, rice, potatoes, grains, and sugar, plus drastically cutting fruit) keeps my daily total of carbs around 30-50g carbs. The only total I really monitor is my fibre intake which sometimes is very low and I try to increase, but the others I tend to monitor over the week and they average out.

I’m feeling a bit ‘meh’ today. I think a bit hormonal, tired, bored....all dangerous BSD zones! Dc are poorly with d&v so we are housebound also. I’ve been writing in my journal, planning my next few weeks. It’s 5 weeks today until Easter Sunday, and if I was to lose 2lb each week I would be in the 10’s by then (weighed in at 11.9 this morning) so that’s to be my goal. I’ve been slipping into some bad habits; grazing, snacking, ignoring my water alarm, and not always weighing and measuring. The foods been mostly ok, so I have muddled along for a few weeks losing a few pounds here and there, but I feel ready for another big push to the finish! 2lb a week is definitely do-able, but to achieve it I’ll need my head back in the game properly.

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Zazu44 · 25/02/2018 10:28

Thanks so Much that's a lot clearer and I hate using mfp. Weighed, measured, BMI'd, photographed and ready to go 😊.
Can I just ask a quick Q. I really enjoy a big cup of tea or 2 1st thing in the morning with a sweetener and milk. Is this ok or should I try and knock it on the head. I'm guessing the sweetener definitely x

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