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Fasting / 5:2 diet

Talk about intermittent fasting and 5:2, including what’s worked for others. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

MM-Blood-sugar-diet-Part3

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Not2bObvious · 27/04/2016 21:42

BSD Part 3

Will add in decent tips section tomorrow - have it all typed out, just need to log in from a proper computer, not phone

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H3l3naGraham · 13/05/2016 16:15

It won't do b u g g e r ........Hilarious!!!!!

oolaroola · 13/05/2016 16:26

Freudian slip.
Ha ha, you do make me laugh H313

clare8allthepies · 13/05/2016 19:15

Good day so far and another pound off this morning so finally have undone the effects of last weeks carb blowout. Aching after yesterday's hiit workout, while I'm trying to get the toddler to sleep DP is getting ready for a run. He's doing couch to 5k. I on the other hand have a date with an ice cold lager and the Xbox Grin

Veggy · 13/05/2016 19:32

Sorry all, I'm one of those that read everything and find it enormously comforting and helpful and brilliant, but rarely post. But here I am.
Anyway last night or earlier today there were some posts about the addictiveness of food - whether it's sugar and sweet stuff or savoury stodgy carbs - both we now know are more or less the same in terms of our body chemistry and how we break it down. So this diet or WOE is perfect for me as I have no control. Or at least I thought it was about self control or will power but now I realise there are other factors involved. Abs that's what I need help on.
So generally I've been ok - the first couple days were awful, I was starving hungry constantly and weak and grumpy but then it lifted and I felt pretty good. The hunger went, I started "feeling lean", I lost a few lbs. Same pattern as mostly everyone on this post.
But there have been days where I totally blow it - eat fish and chips and drink a bottle of presecco. Or eat an entire one of the kids Easter eggs, or two. And I get over it a day or so later. But generally I've been fine, the odd glass of wine of course happens most days, but food has been great. I hover around 850-1000 cals a day but that's ok, I'm losing slow and steady. But then a crazy day just happens again, today, and for no reason it seems I lose will power in a moment and from that moment on I'm screwed - I've lost power. So today should have been ok - I've slept, work is ok, endless meetings but nothing insane and someone offers me a slice of their birthday cake and I say yes. I choose to say yes not out of desire or greed but just because once in a while it's ok to right? I'm in control of me. Just a slice, it's just cake for gods sake!. But then carnage. An hour later I eat another slice. After work I pick up my kids and my parents have made scones with them. I eat 2. I get home and have humous and ryvita x 4. Then a big bag of crisps and about 20 olives with wine. Then I worry I've had no vegetables or protein so I make roast veg with goats cheese. And now I sit here feeling utterly shit as I tap my calories into MFP. 2000+ many of which are carbs and sugar and fat ( not the good stuff from avocados and nuts)! And most consumed within about 2 hours, when I wasn't even hungry to start with. So why does that happen? Addiction? Lack of self control. Sabotage? I dunno.
Sorry for massive rant. But I'd dropped into the next stone bracket (which I've dipped my toe into on the occasional morning in the last couple weeks) but finally felt safe there the last few days. I felt good about it all. And then in an afternoon I ruin it all. Why oh why?
Thanks for reading that massive rant! Sorry folks. X

H3l3naGraham · 13/05/2016 19:49

Hi veggy - I think we do self-sabotage, I think we test ourselves & then by failing we live up to our expectation of ourselves, a psychologist would have a field-day. I have low expectations of myself so it becomes self-fulfilling if I fail. I think this is a part of it, another side is in the world today, there is just so much of everything & we aren't trained to deny ourselves anymore, we are almost trained from birth to have treats, be it food, wine, clothes, make-up, it's 'go on, be a devil, you deserve it' even if we don't....Confused

clare8allthepies · 13/05/2016 19:54

Hugs Veggy don't beat yourself up, we all have bad days and as someone on here said self flagellation doesn't burn any calories! I've come to realise what a disordered relationship I have with food, I'm either being 'good' or 'bad' and once I go off piste I seem to go looking for as much food as possible.

I think the important thing is to not let one slip up turn into a bad day, a bad weekend, a bad week then I'll be back to where I started. It's easier said than done though!

H3l3naGraham · 13/05/2016 20:28

Wise words clare - 1 small error needn't become magnified into a massive one!!

APlaceOnTheCouch · 13/05/2016 20:39

I think it is self-sabotage and a feeling of pressure . I feel the longer that I am 'good' then the bigger the fall if I fail so by having little mini-fails, it eases the pressure somewhat.

I think we have to give ourselves permission to fail so that lapses don't seem irretrievable.

I also remember watching one of those diet/medical programmes on TV and they said that lots of modern foods have ingredients that act together to suppress appetite so we can't tell that we're full and hence they trigger a binge (eg Pringles) so it could be science as well as self-sabotage.

Veggy · 13/05/2016 20:42

Thanks both. It's so weird - it is literally like I'm punishing myself by stuffing my face and deliberately ruining the good feelings I've been riding on for a few days. Oh god. A psychiatrist really would have a bloody field day! I just hate the lack of control - that a single slice of cake creates some sort of mad craziness of loss of control so extreme that I gorge on white sweet or savoury crap until I feel like weeping!
Argh!
Anyway thank you. I feel so much better for sharing my madness Wink

yumyumpoppycat · 13/05/2016 22:36

I defo have this prob veggy, sounds like a lot of us on here do. I think it is the blood sugar thing too isn't it, eat the chocy/ice cream/toast or whatever feel good for a bit then start to feel crap as blood sugar drops so eat some more choc or whatever. I think when my blood sugar goes low the idea of real food just doesn't appeal I need something I can just munch up without effort that will give an immediate burst.

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Not2bObvious · 14/05/2016 08:12

Thanks for sharing veggy, you're definately not on your own. The slice of cake scenario, or biscuit/crisps/chocolate and it can flick a switch and just set you off on a food roam. It's such tangible proof that high sugar processed foods send our senses into overdrive. I wonder are some people more susceptible or at the very least have higher levels of will power.

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APlaceOnTheCouch · 14/05/2016 09:11

Good morning everyone! Well, I decided to take some measurements today. I don't usually bother because I always think they are less scientific than weighing eg I might just have pulled the tape tighter last time or looser or ...

Anyway, with that disclaimer I seem to have lost 9.5 inches since I started. Hurrah! Many more still to lose but it's a start.

I am hoping to get lots of steps in today as the weather is good.

Enjoy all your weekend 'just another 2 days' plans and thank you so much for this thread. It is such a support. I would have been tempted to give up around week 3/4 if you hadn't all been here to share your experiences.

thenewaveragebear1983 · 14/05/2016 09:39

Morning all. I am literally the bear with a sore head today, as I drank 3 glasses of prosecco last night (I rarely drink, and never sparkling white wine....) I know its not much by real standards, but for me it's a lot. I managed to resist the goodies/baddies mostly because there was nothing in, and had a frozen portion of veg curry and cauli rice. So not as bad as could have been, and probably would have been if the cupboards were better stocked!
I love doing my measurements as it's good for motivation especially when the scales are being stubborn. I have lost 3 inches round my back bra measurement, 6 off my waist (mummy tummy!) And 2 off each thigh in these 8 weeks. I also took a photo on day 1, one on day 28 and will take one on day 56 (Wednesday). I use a collage app to compare, its really quite astonishing!
Today we're having a quiet one, jobs around the house, bit of gardening and maybe a walk later. Dinner will be cod wrapped in parma ham with sundried tomatoes and Philadelphia cheese.
Enjoy your Saturday everyone!

H3l3naGraham · 14/05/2016 09:57

Hello couch and bear I really wish I had measured at the beginning, what lovely results to start the weekend with! I have shrunk over 2 sizes, well on way to dropping another one, have also shrunk a cup size. Yes, I have a way to go too, but it is encouraging if the scales are stubborn!

An unplanned Eurovison get-together tonight will be a challenge, (take-away curry) but I have decided that Tandoori chicken (no rice, no naan) won't kill me. It will be the wine that's the issue.......Again.....

Have a lovely weekend ladies!

APlaceOnTheCouch · 14/05/2016 11:01

Ah, I am jealous of your Eurovision party H3l3na. We are having a film night . . .although I am now wondering if I could lure 7-yr-old DS into Eurovision instead Grin

H3l3naGraham · 14/05/2016 12:00

Hello couch - you could always pitch Eurovision like a film - high drama, tears, laughter, pathos & then finally tragedy when we come last.........Wink

Veggy · 14/05/2016 15:45

Wow those inches off must feel amazing, I wish I'd measured too. And photos, great idea.
So yesterday's sugary carby face stuffing madness put me back up in the higher stone bracket again. Darn it! But other than some weekend wine I'll stay good now and hopefully I be down again by midweek. I need a couple of consistent weeks before I'm safe again in the lower stone. Thanks all. I love this thread!x

H3l3naGraham · 15/05/2016 03:05

Oops, guess that was a small catastrophe then..... DH has had a good ie bad night & I have been OTT on the wine front, sod Eurovision, bum to temptation & balls to the diet tonight.....oops........guess we'll be back on it big time tomorrow... Swimming cozzie is still calling to me!!!

Itscurtainsforyou · 15/05/2016 06:36

Gah! I'm not quite at weekly weigh in time, but I've put on weight over the last 5 days! I can't understand how, I've kept to around 800 cal and mostly done my steps (12000 on Friday/Thursday).

What's going on??

Not2bObvious · 15/05/2016 08:59

Morning Its, how much weight you talking about? It's most likely just fluid or waste retention. You're using mfp and are confident your calorie counts are accurate enough? I have had occasions where weight gain can be from 1-2 weeks before - it's not always an overnight event. So if I'd had a mad weekend, like 2 weeks ago, even though I'd done 2 x 800 and 2 over last week (ok a good bit over but still tdee) I had a gain of 1.2 on Friday - I thought I'd escaped it but sometimes it has to show up at some stage.
Sorry if it's upset you but don't let it derail you. Weekend going ok, bit too much biscuit munching (wtaf is with me???) but it is what it is. Today will be better

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H3l3naGraham · 15/05/2016 09:03

Am a tad delicate this AM....... curtains what week are you on, can't remember sorry? I know that lots of people on the BSD site (MM's) had issues about week 5 give or take a few days. Many have upped their fat intake (marginal, not talking lbs of cheese here) especially a fatty snack after dinner in glass of milk, small piece of cheese or nuts, apparently this can start the process again although it sounds scary. Hang on in there!

Itscurtainsforyou · 15/05/2016 09:10

Thanks :-). I'm only week 2. Will try the fat thing, thanks.

APlaceOnTheCouch · 15/05/2016 10:07

I had a bad day yesterday. I started so well but by about 1pm, I had developed a cold: runny nose; headache; sore throat. I got a KFC salad, came home and curled up on the sofa, eating ice cream to try to make my throat feel better. I ended up at 914 cals and over 70 carbs. Boo!

I feel rubbish today but am going to take DS on a woodland walk so I at least get some steps in. My motivation levels are non-existent and I made the mistake of buying some 'nice' dark chocolate yesterday which is calling to me.

Hopefully the fresh air will make me feel better.

Its have your carb levels been low? When I started, I kept to the calorie count but was still eating too many carbs and it definitely slowed down the weight loss.

H3l3naGraham · 15/05/2016 10:47

Hope you feel better soon couch - fair point about the carbs, curtains you will get strange variances in the early stages of the diet, but it will pick up with a big WOOSH if you stick at it!!

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