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Fasting / 5:2 diet

Talk about intermittent fasting and 5:2, including what’s worked for others. Mumsnet hasn't checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. You may wish to speak to a medical professional before starting any diet.

5:2 Exercise & Fitness: Advice and information for those following 5:2 / IF (Intermittent Fasting)

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BigChocFrenzyAteYourReindeer · 31/12/2013 01:51

Why Exercise ?

Maintaining a normal bodyweight and taking regular exercise are 2 major areas of life which we can address to improve our health.

Fasted training, i.e. training on FDs, seems to increase the benefits of both training and IF, but it is advisable to first become used to fasting

Exercise alone does not produce significant weight loss for most people. However it can improve body shape and can help overcome weight plateaux.

Regular exercise helps reduce the risk of obesity, type 2 diabetes, heart diesease, high blood pressure, some cancers, osteoporosis, dementia, depression.

  • Try to train regularly, building up to 3-6 days per week.
  • Develop a training routine you enjoy and want to continue long term.
  • Regular exercisers gain the greatest benefits over their lifetime and they can minimise biological aging, i.e. "Bend the Aging Curve" BendAge

WARNING: If you are very obese or have health issues, check with your GP that you are able to start exercising and also if there are types of exercise you should avoid.

Fat and Metabolism

Body fat is highly active tissue which secretes hormones (e.g. leptin, adiponectin) and microphages (which cause inflammation) directly into the bloodstream. These substances can significantly affect metabolism & weight and increase the risk of diabetes, heart disease, high blood pressure, stroke, some cancers.
E.g ref and ref

Visceral fat is more dangerous than subcutaneous - a study found that liposuction removing up to 20lb of the latter did not improve health indicators. Visceral fat needs to be reduced by exercise and a calorie deficit, preferably both together.

Hormesis

"What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger"
Hormesis Mattson and Hormesis can be applied to exercise, analagous to how 5:2 /IF uses it for nutrition.
Alternating between “extremes” of feast and fast (like 5:2) or intense training and rest, makes the body more resilient.

The intermittent stress of lifting an extreme weight or performing at high speed for a short period pushes the body to overcompensate and prepare for an even greater future challenge HormesisTrain and AntiFragile
The following recovery period avoids damage from over-stressing.

INEFFICIENT: Low-Medium Intensity Steady state Cardio

Steady state cardio is not necessary and should only be a small part of your weekly cardio, unless it is all you can manage to do.

Only high intensity exercise recruits the fast-twitch muscle fibers that have the most glycogen (stored glucose). Steady State Cardio does not empty the glucose stores in those particular muscles. Hence, the circulating glucose has nowhere to be stored — except as bodyfat.

Moreover, the muscle cells will lose their sensitivity to insulin and become inflamed by the high levels of insulin, which the body has produced to deal with the high levels of circulating glucose. The body mortars this inflammation with LDL cholesterol.

Hence, those exercising only at low-medium intensity are at greater risk of cardiovascular problems than high intensity exercisers SteadyState (pp. 31-34).
Obviously, non-exercisers have the highest risk of all.

RECOMMENDED TYPES of Exercise

HIIT cardio and resistance training / weight lifting are recommended to boost the effect of 5:2/IF, to increase weight loss, reduce body fat, retain muscle and maintain TDEE / BMR.

Anyone who is not specialising in a sport at a high level should aim to do a variety of training: HIIT cardio, resistance and flexibility.

HOW to Exercise

The cardio machines and the girlie pink dumbbells that gyms push are inadequate to significantly improve fitness or burn fat.
However, 10 mins walk on a treadmill or outside is beneficial after training, especially after heavy lifting.
Scientists have proved that cardio and resistance training can be done in the same session, without detriment to either, e.g. TrainBoth

Whether you join a gym or train at home or in the park:

  • Train as intensively as your time, health and fitness level allow.
  • Do not remain in your comfort zone, or you will not improve.
  • You are supposed to drip sweat and pant heavily !
However, a brisk 30 mins daily walk plus 5 mins hoop is better than nothing and if done regularly will bring some health benefits.

Flexibility

  • Stretching for 5 mins before and after each training session is recommended
  • Yoga and Pilates classes can be added if additional flexibility training is desired. Some such classes also provide additional strength / toning.

HIIT (High Intensity Interval Training)

HIIT is an exercise strategy which alternates brief intervals of high intensity exercise with less-intense recovery periods. Time intervals may be equal or different and their length and the number of sets depends on fitness level.

Start with one session per week and build up to a maximum of 3 (no more).

HIIT is very time-efficient, producing the greatest fitness benefit in the least time (the advantage of hormesis). However, beginners should build up gradually, starting say with just 1 or 2 intervals.

Scientists have proved that HIIT burns more fat than steady state lower intensity exercise and speeds up the metabolism, which helps burn more calories for up to 48 hrs.

HIIT increases both aerobic and anaerobic endurance

HIIT can be applied to cardio: e.g. cycling, running, skipping, jumping, mountain climbs
or to bodyweight exercises, e.g. squatting, situps, burpees, pressups

Most gyms offer classes, e.g.
spinning, circuit training, CrossFit, Tabata, Fartlek(Fartlek = HIIT with irregular intervals)
which each use a form of interval training.
These classes require less planning and are often more enjoyable (music, socialising, equipment) than training on your own.

A typical HIIT session could consist of:

  • 4 mins warmup
  • 8 sets of intervals
  • 4 mins cooldown
and last 12-60 mins in total.

Recovery time is usually half the high intensity time.
Examples of typical interval sets are:

  • 20 seconds high intensity + 10 secs recovery OR
  • 40 sec high + 20 sec low OR
  • 60 sec high + 30 sec low

Detailed HIIT example plans: (scroll down to Workouts section and ignore whether entitled "cutting" or "bulking") BodyBuild

RESISTANCE Training / LIFTING

This helps retain muscle mass during weight loss and hence to maintain TDEE.

It is easier in a gym, especially re equipment. You can lift in the weights area on your own OR in a pump class.
Whether @ gym or home, before you start lifting, have a few lessons with a trainer to learn the correct form and avoid injury.

It is best not to train the same muscle groups 2 days in succession, so have rest days, or cardio, or train different muscle groups on different days.
Try to build up to weight training for 30-60 mins twice per week.

WARNING
The "Heavy" lifting described here should not exceed bodyweight unless you are really fit and expert.
Women who have given birth and / or are aged 40+ have a higher risk of pelvic floor / prolapse injuries when lifting heavy than young non-mums.

Main Lifting / Resistance Exercises

Reps = the number of repetitions in a set of a particular lifting exercise
Sets are normally separated by brief rests
E.g. you might do 3 sets each of 12 reps all of the same exercise.

If you have access to dumbbells / barbells, then for maximum effect, work the large muscle groups. Alternatively, use bodyweight.
squats
bent-over rows (press button "female")
Behind neckPress (press button "female")
dead lift
The abs and smaller muscle groups will automatically be trained by these exercises, but you can add optionally 20 mins weekly abs exercises:

Basic Abs

  • Situps: build up to 3 sets of 20 reps. Try to put your arms in front of you, instead of behind your head
  • Angled situps: with one ankle resting on the opposite knee. 2 sets of 15 each side
  • Plank: 3 sets, each 45 secs
  • Leg extensions: legs bent 90 degrees, so your lower legs are parallel to the floor. Stretch each leg in turn, parallel to the floor. 3 sets of 10.

Lifting To increase Strength Rather than Muscle Mass
Lift as heavy as you can, low reps, with 1 minute rest between sets
e.g. 5 sets x 5 reps each, i.e. totalling 25 lifts.

Lifting To Build More Muscle
With a lower weight, do 3 sets x 8-20 reps, i.e. totalling 24-60 lifts.

Additionally, or if you don't have heavy barbells, use your bodyweight.
Example to build up to:

  • 3 sets of 30 press ups, proper ones, see detail below +.
  • 40 deep squats, with thighs parallel to floor, i.e. ATG (Arse to Grass) see ++.
  • 3 set of 8 reps inverted pullup /row Inverted OR assisted chin-ups on a gym machine OR full chin-ups if you can manage them (Amazon have pullup bars which fit over doors from about £15)

+Press ups

  • It is best to keep attempting one proper pressup rather than doing several dozen girlie ones with your knees on the floor.
  • Once you can do one pressup, you will soon be able to build up to 5, then 10 etc.
  • Tip: keep the abs rigid, so strong abs are as important as strong shoulders & arms.

++Squats

  • Are the best exercise for the large muscle group in bum and thighs.
  • Basic principle: It is like having a pee on a public loo - get your bum down low and pointing to the rear, but not actually touching the seat.
-Lean back on your heels, so that weight is on them, not on your toes. -For bodyweight squats, bring your arms forward -Keep your back straight, but angled slightly forward, not vertical.
  • Go down as far as you can without knee pain.

CAUTION With Leangains-Type Protocols

5:2 is an easier WOL than other forms of IF, with most days being NFDs during which the body can recuperate.

Some women have had injuries or health problems with very tough LeanGains-type protocols, which combine ADF or daily 16:8 with fasted lifting of multiples of body weight.

Some women have achieved excellent results on LeanGains-type; others had problems after a few months, or even from the start. Particularly at risk are women with very low (11-18%) body fat, possibly already with irregular menstruation, or with EDs.

Post-menopausal women seem to do well, as do men, presumably due to differences in hormones, body fat %, metabolism.

RECOMMENDATION: Don't lift more than your bodyweight and mostly lift well below it.

Running versus Walking

Walking is beneficial psychologically, is easy on the knee joints and has some physical benefits.

However, at speeds of 5mph or faster, running will burn more calories per mile than walking Ref . Typical values:

  • For running (5 mph and higher): Total calories burned per mile = .75 x body weight (in pounds); net calories (see ++) burned per mile = .63 x weight.
  • For walking (3 to 4 mph): Total calories burned per mile = .53 x body weight; net calories burned per mile = .30 x weight.

++ Note: net calories = total calories - cals the body would have burned at rest (calculated from BMR)

AVOID OSTEOPOROSIS

We start losing bone density from about age 35. Women can lose a great deal before, during and after menopause.

Other risk factors: Smoking, heavy drinking, inactive lifestyle, very slim build, family history of osteoporosis, longterm steroid use.

To retain bone strength and avoid a painfully disabled old age, start now:
Ideally weight bearing exercises that load the bone along its length

Impact exercise E.g. walking, running, jumping, skipping rope, step class, hitting a heavy punch bag.

Lifting: squats, press-ups, bench press, overhead press etc.

Squats are much better than lunges: The weight in a squat is transmitted down along the spine, through the hip, and down along the bones of the leg, whereas in a lunge, it is transmitted across the shinbone and puts pressure on the knee joint.

Cycling normally does NOT increase bone density as it does not really load bones along their length. A study found that cyclists who did no other exercise had low bone density because of the combo of this with their training Osteo

KETTLEBELLS

Useful exercise descriptions and videos: Kettle
Recommended for beginners (and shown in the link):
. Two-handed swing
. Sumo Deadlift
. Turkish Getup
. Swing
. Clean and Jerk
. Press

How to Choose a Gym (if you want to)

  • gym offpeak can be as cheap as £30 p.m. as you don't need expensive pools, sauna, juice bars, massage etc.
  • within journey time 20 mins
  • plenty of classes at times to suit you
  • creche if needed
  • don't bother with expense of a personal trainer.

Start with these classes if available:

  • weekly spin, because you can set your own resistance and speed 45-60 mins
  • any additional interval training class, see earlier for list.
  • weekly pump 60 mins
  • weekly abs class 15-30 mins

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CALCULATORS:
Estimate your fitness age: FitAge
Estimate Vo2Max iTunes App: Vo2APP
Body Fat Calculator:BF
Healthy Body Fat Percentages at Different Ages:
HealthyBF
TDEE with detailed activity times: TDEE

More links: 52FastDietForum-Fasting & Exercise 52exercise GettingStronger.Org-Hormesis Hormesis GettingStronger.Org-Fitness Fitness LeanGains Protocols : Leangains MarksDailyApple-Home Workouts Without Equipment WorkAtHome

OP posts:
Peplum41 · 03/01/2014 22:49

earslaps ooh that's interesting point, built for stamina rather than power. I think I'm a plodder, it all gets done just takes me longer than every one else and I like to enjoy the scenery along the way.

I think that's why I like pilates, a lot of people think it too slow and easy, but its very effective if done properly.

I've got a dodgy pelvic floor and back from years of hauling "little" old ladies around by their armpits back in the day, a practice now thankfully discontinued. Pilates really helps.

turkey/cookoo how is your back since you got the giant hoop? Good to see you back by the way.

Has any one read that depressing thread where the op asks for types of exercise as they hate the gym, then proceeds to whine miserabley at every suggestion. Some of the suggestions are good though.

BigChocFrenzyAteYourReindeer · 03/01/2014 23:36

EarSlaps

Push-ups on dumbbells, or on anything which tends to roll or slide, are much tougher than normal adult push-ups ! This is because you also have to exert control to stop them moving, instead of 100% of your power going into the press-up itself.

Sounds like you are raising great athletic DS's. Marvellous fun if you can run or hike with them.

MrsF
I'm trying to think of a recipe with nice juicy braised Guinea Pigs, as a post-training meal Grin

OP posts:
Breadandwine · 04/01/2014 00:28

Hi BigChoc

I had a problem with my back, many years ago, so, since then I’ve been doing two exercises to prevent a recurrence:
I lie on my back on the floor with my knees bent and do 100 curls while keeping my lower back on the floor – arms out in front
And then I do the reverse – I lie on my front and bring my head and shoulders up whilst keeping my hips on the floor.

Up until I retired – over 20 years ago, now – I cycled to work, in summer reaching about 120 miles a week – so I was pretty fit.

I joined a gym for a few years – mainly treadmill and cross-trainer.

Then I gained access to a small swimming pool – I spend about 30 minutes a day in there. Some swimming, but mainly I run (jog?) round the pool 100 times – took me 12 mins 52 seconds today, a PB. And I spend 5 minutes going back and forth the length (4 metres) of the pool – my PB with this one is 62 lengths.

At the end of November, inspired by you and others on the main thread, I started to look at home-based strength building exercises and came across this website. 5 exercises that can be done at home (4 if you ignore the lunges that are not recommended these days.)

This was my programme for today:
30 secs plank x 3 (PB 90secs – I could do more)
20 push ups x 3
20 squats x 3
10 Pull-ups – about 3-4cm x 3 (I do these on the stairs overhang. When I began, it was all I could do to hang there for about 5 seconds)

I’d only been doing these exercises for a couple of weeks when I began to notice a difference – I have a heavy portable oven, which I’ve always needed help to move. Not any more, I can handle it myself, now!

Then, once again inspired by BigChoc and others, I asked for and received a 3KG kettlebell for Christmas, and I’m building up an exercise routine with this.

This is where I am, ATM:
20 ‘steering wheel’ reps x 2
2 handed swing x 20 x 2
Sumo deadlift x 20 x 2
Swing x 20 L x 2
Swing x 20 R x 2
Clean and jerk L x 20 x 2
Clean and jerk R x 20 x 2

I’m building up to 4 sets of each – and I keep a record of all this on a Word file. Time of day, apart from my morning swim, is variable, whenever I can fit it all in! Smile

As well as all this, I’ve been looking at the health benefits of a daily cold shower and, after a very tentative beginning, I can now manage over 3 minutes under cold water. Not sure if it’s making any difference, but apparently it takes several weeks before you feel the benefits.

One last thing – I try and do 20 minutes a day bladder muscle exercise. So when I see the word CLENCH - that’s what I do! Grin I soon know if I’ve let this one slip – I find myself getting up for the loo in the middle of the night.

I have to say that I’m as fit now as I’ve ever been – I feel like a 40-year-old, a fit 40-year-old. But I put that down mainly to fasting. When I first achieved a 24 hour liquid fast, about 14 months ago, I would feel euphoric after a fast. I no longer get the euphoria, just a complete feeling of well-being.

My age is apparently 47 according to AgeFit, and my Vo2Max is 45! Grin
So that’s about 30 years I’ve got in hand.

For anyone interested, here’s my experience of IF – including the best blood results my doc says he has seen. I’ll go back at the end of Feb and get another 12 month update on my bloods.

HIIT – haven’t got into that yet – tried it with running on the spot, but my knee joints protested – just as they did 30-odd years ago (which is why I got the bike in the first place).

BigChocFrenzyAteYourReindeer · 04/01/2014 00:47

Fantastic program at any age, B&W !
You are a great example of how exercise can keep us biologically young.
Smile

OP posts:
BigChocFrenzyAteYourReindeer · 04/01/2014 00:54

But I note you also credit IF /5:2 with your excellent great health.
Very encouraging for all 5:2ers, especially all the newbies starting.
IF and exercise together Bend The Aging Curve.

For HIIT there are many possibilities other than running:

  • We do Kettle intervals in crossfit; they are ideal. So, you could just work intensively 10-60 secs, then rest the same interval, repeat 3-8 times
  • any other lifting or press ups as intervals
  • cycling / spin sprints
  • swimming sprints
  • any circuit training mixing up things you do.

Try something and let us know

OP posts:
BsshBossh · 04/01/2014 08:02

Hello all. Haven't joined in with this most fantastic thread because I've not been able to exercise much for the last couple of months due to over-training, which lead to pelvic floor damage Sad. But I am getting better down there so am marking place on thread in preparation for easing my way back into weight training.

I'm a free weights, heavy lifter (lifting weights heavy to me), mainly using dumbbells at the gym, combined with interval powerwalking on the treadmill and walking outside.

What time of day do I like to exercise?
On FDs, at lunch time (fasted training); on NFDs after school drop off.

What's your programme?
Free weights thrice a week (2 x upper body, 1 x lower) based on compound moves (eg deadlifts, squats, overhead presses, chest presses)
40 mins brisk walking outdoors 5 x week
30 mins interval training on treadmill

How many days per week?
5 x a week

What and when do I eat?
On FDs I eat at night only; on NFDs I eat lunch and dinner.

I am over 40 and only started weight training at 40 yo. The improvements to my muscle tone has been signficant. I'm a big believer in building muscle cause it allows me to get away with eating 2000+ calories a day if I want to Grin. Maintaining muscle is a surefire way of ensuring a woman's metabolism does not shrink too much as she gets older!

BsshBossh · 04/01/2014 09:02

Can someone explain to me why lunges are no longer recommended ( B&W ) mentioned it up thread...

I do weighted lunges (along with deadlifts, squats etc); they're fine on my knees but I'm thinking of my pelvic floor.

Lazysuzanne · 04/01/2014 10:46

I think lunges are great, especially for glutes and hamstrings Wink

I do barbell lunges with 30 to 40 kilos, I use a very long stance and all the reps on one leg, rack the bar and then all the reps on the other leg.
6 to 8 reps in total.

Lazysuzanne · 04/01/2014 10:51

When it comes to strength training different exercises work for different people, after a while you get to know what works for you.
I can tell from the way my muscles ache the next day that I've had an effective workout Wink

I'm not a fan of one size fits all approaches and have always tailored my train according to what suits me.

BigChocFrenzy · 04/01/2014 11:24

Lunges

Bssh Back when B&W was asking about some exercises he had seen on YouTube, he asked what i thought of them for him, mentioning his knee problems. I replied that lunges put more strain on the knee joints and that maybe he should stick to squats first, then go to lunges later if he felt OK.

Also, for those exercising for osteoporosis, see the OP, lunges are not particularly good, since the long bones aren't loaded along their length.

Lunges are good as part of a routine for those with reasonable knees, just that I would prioritise squats over them.
BTW I do some lunges, even though my knees are a bit sensitive, but I do far more squats.

BigChocFrenzy · 04/01/2014 11:49

Bssh I'm really rooting for you returning to lifting. Such a shame about your injury. I hope you are soon back in the swing.
You are so right to be cautious.

If a woman is serious about exercise, she will often hear the advice "lift like a man", but she must be aware of the risks in order to progress safely.
Over-eager trainers caused me to have a few injuries - joints, muscle tears - and it took months to recover and regain my previous fitness level.
So now, I refuse when I think something is risky for me.

Most woman do need to chuck the girly pressups & pretty pink dubmbells, also the hours of trudging on the treadmill, but we are not merely small men minus spouts: we are at much higher risk of injuries, e.g. pelvic floor / prolapses.

So, safety first, everyone and think for yourself !

MrsFlorrick · 04/01/2014 12:31

Thanks Bigchoc. I'm training the Guinea Pigs to guard to choc stash in the basement and to recognise you!! Wink

I'm going to see my physio next month. I will talk to her about lifting. My pelvic floor could probably handle it with the appropriate precautions but I am unsure about my SI joints. They may now always be too weak to handle it.

I will find out before I get too excited. I do need to remind myself that I've come a long way from an injury which almost immobilised me.

Still there is HIIT, moderate strength (with girly 3kg dumbells Grin) for me.

If anyone knows anything about SI joint issues and lifting, I'd love to hear from you. Thanks

MrsFlorrick · 04/01/2014 12:31

Thanks Bigchoc. I'm training the Guinea Pigs to guard to choc stash in the basement and to recognise you!! Wink

I'm going to see my physio next month. I will talk to her about lifting. My pelvic floor could probably handle it with the appropriate precautions but I am unsure about my SI joints. They may now always be too weak to handle it.

I will find out before I get too excited. I do need to remind myself that I've come a long way from an injury which almost immobilised me.

Still there is HIIT, moderate strength (with girly 3kg dumbells Grin) for me.

If anyone knows anything about SI joint issues and lifting, I'd love to hear from you. Thanks

tomorrowweeat · 04/01/2014 13:01

Ooooooooo, following previous advice - Wii fit ordered and am contemplating a Bodyblade. Anyone tried one? You are all inspiring me more and more. Even attempted a few short jogs on my walk today!

BigChocFrenzy · 04/01/2014 14:16

Well done, Tomorrow. Sounds like you will soon be a lot fitter !

Lazysuzanne · 04/01/2014 17:51

re lunges I do mine like but with a longer stance so that the angle at the knee is less acute.
I find the longer the stance the greater the focus on the glutes and hamstrings (appreciate that we are all biomechanically a little different so the area's hit by any particular exercise will very from person to person.

If I had to step backwards and forwards with every rep like I think I'd fall over, aswell as hurt my knee's

BigChocFrenzy · 04/01/2014 19:13

Sport After Joint Injuries

YMMV, but these were warnings I received from health professionals.
They saw only the injured exercisers, not the healthy ones, so maybe their view was distorted!

After twisting my knee many years ago, I had an arthroscopy on my knee, followed by physio.
My knees were declared 100% ok for normal activity (well, I found that was not quite so for sport: esp. squats, lunges or angled side leg weights).

The surgeon and the physio said that exercise was great for health, but that a lot of their work was treating these types of sports injuries:

a) Worn-down knee joints / cartilages from runners, many just doing a few daily miles, rather than marathoners.
-They said wear and tear, repetitive over-stressing, plus insufficient time to repair between runs, affected many runners after 20 years, disabling some folk in middle age.

  • I stopped regular running after this. I recently started short interval sprints.

b) Knee injuries from lunges and heavy lifting (also back, shoulder from other lifts)
-They said squats are less likely to cause injuries, due to direction of loading, but still many injuries even from squats, because of going too low with too much weight.

  • They recommended body-weight squats rather than barbells.
  • I hadn't started lifting barbells then and this nearly put me off. I've certainly been very cautious lifting because of it and I do leg press for the heavy stuff.

We all have to do a risk/benefit assessment for our individual body.
If anyone undergoes treatment for joint injuries, do describe your planned routines and ask if this is still ok.

Smile
Lazysuzanne · 04/01/2014 20:49

Thanks for sharing the info from your physio BigChoc.

I'm with you on the running, there is no way I'd ever enter a marathon or half marathon, I feel that doing that much of any one thing is asking for trouble.

Recently I gave up swimming because front crawl was making my shoulders feel very vulnerable...now able to go heavier with upper body training and my shoulders feel good and solid.

My feeling is that regular yoga has helped to keep injuries at bay (but time will tell)

BigChocFrenzy · 04/01/2014 23:23

I did 100 mins fasted spin and weights this evening, on espresso and BCAA, with a big post-training shake.

My gym replaced the nice old pull-up/chin station with a bloke-oriented one that is only for very wide pull-ups and wide "side-chins" - where the palms facing each other.
I requested an additional woman-sized chins bar, but no luck.
In horror, I stopped doing chins for months, but today decided I had to use it or lose it.

So, to avoid straining my tum, shoulders or elbows (god, I sound a decrepit old bag !), this is my new "pull-up" routine:

Warmup on a low bar:

  • 1x8 reverse row /chin-ups on a low bar
  • 1x8 reverse row /pull-ups on bar

On new station:

  • I do a bit of a jump for the first bit of the chin-ups, pull myself up fully so my chin is above the grips, then very slowly lower myself down to arms length. I do 3x3 of these

Slight assistance on station:

  • 2x10 "side-chins"
  • 1x10 wide pull-ups
  • 2x8 tricep dips
  • 2x10 abs exercises - pulling knees up to 90 degrees.

I noticed how much "chinability" I've lost, but I'll build up again.
Smile

BigChocFrenzy · 04/01/2014 23:36

Btw, I do the abs exercises hanging from the grips, or in the upright dip position, to maximise the upper body workout.

Anyone have any tweaks for their ab exercises ?

Breadandwine · 05/01/2014 01:03

About lunges - thanks for your version, Suzanne - it wasn't just BigChoc that put me off them. Both my son, who's in the forces and a keepfit fan, and a mate of mine, who teaches PE cautioned against them.

BTW, how do you think I feel, with my new 3kg kettlebell, when you guys talk about 'girly weights'? Grin

Seriously, though, we've all got to start somewhere, and surely 3kg dumbbells are just a stepping stone to bigger things. After all, we don't want to put people off, now do we?

EarSlaps · 05/01/2014 08:57

B&W- since most people don't use any weights at all, I think 3kg is a great start. It wouldn't build much muscle (it might help add some in body weight exercises), but it will help bone strength and add extra cardio work. Plus, with kettlebells and other weights I think it's good to start low whilst you get the form right. Not sure I could use much above 4kg for my shoulders at the moment as mine are very weak.

I did Killer Buns & Thighs yesterday- only level 1 but it was really hard.

ELR · 05/01/2014 10:15

For those wanting to know what hormesis is I found this blog post quite a good read
www.marksdailyapple.com/hormesis-how-certain-kinds-of-stress-can-actually-be-good-for-you/#axzz2pW91xN5o

BiscuitsAreMyDownfall · 05/01/2014 11:46

Well I'm doing a half in May. The only thing I can really do is run. I don't have the space to exercise (mainly because I never get the place to myself). I can't afford the time or the money for a gym, looking forward to when the DCs are older so I can use a gym more.

positively9something · 05/01/2014 11:48

Hi all I've just slipped in to mark my place on the thread. I havnt been doing any exercise reallyHmm I was using my hula hoop before Christmas and started the 30 day squat challenge but I don't do it every day Confused

I'm not feeling very motivated at the moment! I think I need to do some classes to get into the swing of things.

Great thread and very much needed Grin

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