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C25K

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Otistheowl · 01/04/2018 17:12

I'm a complete beginnen, starting tomorrow, anyone want to join me?
The goal is fitness, although weight loss would be an added bonus.
I've a young family so time and motivation are my biggest obstacles but am determined.
Join me!

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AuntieStella · 31/08/2018 19:32

It's my Runniversary today!

Two years ago exactly I laced up my proper running trainers and went out for the first time on C25K.

Today, I went for a 'little' run to celebrate - 3 miles at what is now easy pace (one I could only dream of back then).as part of training for another half marathon. It really changed my life. If you had told me 2years+1day ago where I would be now, I would have been frankly disbelieving.

Cake all round!

myidentitymycrisis · 01/09/2018 13:13

Hi can I join you?
I stupidly agreed to a Toughmudder 5k event and I am not a runner 😟

I am on W4 run 3 tomorrow. It’s all going ok but I am not really moving very fast, it’s just a very light jog. Anyway I hope to get some support and support anyone I can on here.

PetraDelphiki · 02/09/2018 10:28

W4r1 today (sort of)...had to do second 5 mins as alternating walk and jog...:-(

I don’t move very fast either - I think my jog is slower than my walk ... plus there was some race that came past me today so I felt really really slow :-(

Think I might have to redo this day a few times until I can do 5 mins without wanting to die!

Alicatz66 · 02/09/2018 15:02

I did terrible today Confused.. W7R1... just couldn't do it !! Stupidly tried to do it straight after a gym class .. had only eaten 2 oatcakes all morning .. was meant to do 25 minutes .. got to 13 and felt like I couldn't breathe.. I really think I just can't run in the heat .. DP had come with me and I was sitting on the grass having a cry !!!! Feel a bit of a failure !

FATEdestiny · 02/09/2018 20:02

PetraDelphiki and Alicatz66

It's been hot this weekend. It's always going to be harder to run when it's hot so don't beat yourself up about it. Also, everyone has a crap run every now and again. Everyone. So just put the trainers on and go back out. You will be fine.

Always worth remembering that the answer is always - will always be - slow down.

The single mist important thing to achieve in the C25K programe is to finish. Complete every run and finish every section.

If you cannot finish - you are going too fast, slow down.

If your breathing is laboured - you are going too fast, slow down.

It's OK to run after the gym Ali, if that's most convenient to you. Just slow down and make it a very (very) light jog because the most important thing is that you reach the end without stopping. So if you recognise you're knackered, it's not a problem to just massively reduce your pace.

Not moving fast is not a problem Petra. As long as it's a run (jog) and not a walk. I bet your run is faster than you realise. If you noticed you did some walking and some running in your 5 minutes then there must have been an energy different when you ran, no matter how the speed felt to you.

The answer is still slow down. If you can't finish your 5 minutes at a running pace then then running pace you set is far, far (far) too fast. Slow down. Slow tight down. Your speed when running is totally irrelevant, as long as it's a run/jog. So don't worry if you're slow. You are supposed to be slow. You need to be even slower.

The single most important thing is to finish your running interval without stopping or walking. So set a pace dhow enough from the outset so that you can maintain it.

Slow is fine. Slow run, very very slow run, is better than walking. The answer is always you slow down.

PetraDelphiki · 02/09/2018 20:17

Thanks fate...just not sure I can go any slower!!! Will track my speed running and walking next time and see what it says (statistics make me happy)

PetraDelphiki · 02/09/2018 20:28

Can anyone suggest an app that can recognize difference between run and walk and give speed/distance for each segment?

FATEdestiny · 02/09/2018 20:41

I think that the point of the C25K programe is to not track speed or distance covered.
It's all about slowing down and just finishing.

I cannot stress enough how it doesn't matter how slow your run is. It doesn't matter if it is (or isnt) slower than your walk, as long as it's a run not a walk.

Would it make you feel better to know your pace is when running is the same (or slower) than when you are walking?

Genuine question.

If it's just going to make you feel shit about your running, then don't do it. Just ignore your speed - it is totally and completely irrelevant.

If it is going to help you to know your pace is as slow when running as walking - then it's time to realise that the only thing stopping you from carrying on running is your mind. It's psychological, not physical. Because if you're going as fast/slow when running, there is no need for you to walk at all.

The C25K programe actively discourages any tracking of pace or speed. It's really there to teach you to pace yourself. That means going as slow as you need to in order your finish. The statistics, at this stage, may well hinder your progress.

FATEdestiny · 02/09/2018 21:06

Have our seen the video for the Nico Nico running technique@PetraDelphiki? It's in the opening post here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/exercise/3273109-niko-niko-running-technique-experiences?pg=1&order=

It is running with a deliberate very slow speed.

Alicatz66 · 02/09/2018 21:37

Thank you Fate ... I will go back out on Wednesday!!! .. slowly .. thank you for the encouragement xFlowers

PetraDelphiki · 02/09/2018 22:09

Thanks fate will have a look!

PetraDelphiki · 02/09/2018 22:20

So after a quick look that seems pretty close to what I’m doing - I need to concentrate on forefoot strike and keeping chin up (so need to find somewhere with sensible surface to run on - towpath is very broken up so have to look down)...prob explains the tension in my neck...

ChinkChink · 02/09/2018 22:29

5th May my last post on this thread when I got injured through having a loose shoelace. Beware! That injury spoiled my summer holiday somewhat, though I was able to plodge daily in seawater which no doubt helped things along.

Started again from scratch today - seems to have gone quite well.

Someone please tell me that wobbly inner thighs have firmed up through running?

FATEdestiny · 02/09/2018 22:49

Welcome to the thread ChinkChink. Great going to start again. I am afraid I can't tell you running has done amazing things to my body. Maybe it has, I certainly know I am fitter and stronger. But mostly I think the 7st of fat I've lost has come from changing my diet. The running is part of being healthy, rather than to lose weight.

My body is amazing though - so it's all good even if I still have wobbly thighs. So will yours be.

myidentitymycrisis, I forgot your post from earlier. This bit:

"I am not a runner... I am on W4 run 3 tomorrow". Well, Week 5 Run 3 is when you become "a runner". That is The Week, the turning point where you go from a novice who is learning to run, to an actual proper runner. That will be you this time next week Grin

Haffdonga · 02/09/2018 22:50

Hello fellow runners. (Never thought I'd hear myself say that!) I'm onto week 7 tomorrow Shock . I really honestly did think I would die if I tried to run for more than a minute 2 months ago.
Can I ask a stupid question? How does C25k actually take you from timed running to running, er, 5k ? I'm aware I'm very slow and going more like 3k max and week 9 doesn't look like it says 'plan a 5k route, now off you go'. So are you C25k graduates all doing Park Run or are you just keeping running your week 9 routes or what?

FATEdestiny · 02/09/2018 23:11

How does C25k actually take you fromtimedrunning to running, er,5k?

The purpose of the program is to teach you to run for 30 minutes, not 5K. It's just "Couch to 30 min run" doesn't have the same ring to it.

There are C25K Plus podcasts on the NHS website. There are three, I'd recommend them as your initial post-C25K plan. These introduce the idea of monitoring your pace, running small sections at a faster pace (this is called "interval running") and there is also a coached 35 minute run.

When I graduated C25K I was covering 4km jn the 30m run. With 0.5km during the warm up and cool down walks, I was doing 5K over the whole of the session, but not at running pace. My first 5K all at a running pace took 42 minutes. But my second took under 40 minutes and it took maybe 4 or 5 runs to have a time under 35 minutes.

To make the swap, get an app that will tell you when you have run set distances. The fitbit app for example will tell you (via headphones or speaker) every 0.5km distance covered. Use at the same time as the C25K or C25K+ podcasts so you get a feel for the distances you are covering.

Then when doing your normal run, you may well find your pace/speed naturally improves as you repeat more often - so you'll cover a greater distance when running for the same amount of time.

Then some days maybe you'll feel good about your run and decide to keep going until you get the next distance marker - so run through the cool down.

I am not a social runner. I like the solitude of running alone and so Park Runs are not for me. Many new runners find them motivating though. I had a 5.5K route that I used all the way through C25K, but over time I ran more of it and walked less of it. Now I run 5k in about 30m and walk the last half km as a cool down. Door to door in 35 minutes. I do that every day. Some days adding in longer runs - I did a 10 miles/ 16km run the other week. Or 10k runs a couple of times a week.

You don't have to move to running according to distance. You could aim for a 35m run, then aim for a 40m run. Then aim for a 30+15 minute run (with a 5m walk break after half an hour). Then a 30+30 run with a short walk break. Then a 30+30+15 - you'll probably be around 10km at that point. But focus instead on how long you run for, not how far.

PetraDelphiki · 04/09/2018 09:26

Holy crap!!! Niko Niko made it feel easy and fun! W4r2 done and I could have kept going!!!! Felt a little bit like “fat girl at the back of the aerobics class” but kept going! And a far better pace for ddog too!!!

FATEdestiny · 04/09/2018 09:33

Great news PetraDelphiki. Once you realise that your running can be as slow as it needs to be (as long as it's a run and not a walk), it all gets easier.

I must have said it a dozen or more times on this thread - the answer is always to slow down. Everyone of any fitness can do C25K all the way you a 30 minute run, they just need to properly understand that they are supposed to be going as "light" as they need to in their light jog.

Your pace will improve over time, if you want to increase it. But that's not something you need to even think about until after you have graduated and finished C25K.

PetraDelphiki · 04/09/2018 09:54

Thanks fate for the advice and support! It really helps!

Haffdonga · 04/09/2018 20:22

Yes, thanks for answering my question so clearly Fate , I am actually feeling inspired again. Smile

PetraDelphiki · 06/09/2018 20:29

W4r3 today...almost looking forward to w5...not sure dog is tho!

FATEdestiny · 06/09/2018 21:17

Week 5 is a really exciting week, enjoy it!

I'm sure the dog will be fine, especially if your pace is low. My dog (cocker spaniel) doesn't start slowing from a 6-7 min per km rate until about 8km in

arwenearlythereyet · 07/09/2018 09:55

HI all you amazing c25k runners! Considering starting but I am quite overweight and completely unfit. (I walk an hour twice a week and do Pilates once a week normally but a lingering virus over the summer means I have been totally out of all exercise.)

Can I really start this???? Am I too unfit? Worried I will injure myself.

PetraDelphiki · 07/09/2018 12:50

I have to reiterate what fate said - look at the Niko Niko technique...I’m also overweight and under fit and it’s definitely doable!

arwenearlythereyet · 07/09/2018 17:03

Thanks Petra I am watching it now...

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