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Swimming for fitness (part 3). Dive in!

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rightsofwomen · 18/09/2017 13:07

Ohh la la....2nd thread filled up. Hopefully this Subject line will make it easy enough to find.

Everyone welcome.

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tizwozliz · 02/07/2018 18:47

Also enjoyed a lane to myself today. The Monday morning session is always really quiet. I actually had the pick of 3 empty lanes when I got in Smile

user546425732 · 02/07/2018 22:31

I went for a swim today, first time in ages. I swam for 40 minutes (with 3 brief stops of around 5 seconds) and did 35 lengths. I've realised I am not fit enough for something I need to do in just over two weeks time but I've worked out I can swim nearly every day between now and then - will 35 lengths or so each time make a difference do you think?

I'm going to build up to do more lengths each time until I get to 50.

boxcar · 02/07/2018 22:39

Thank you Ski & Flaming for giving me a starting point. Goggles ordered! I’m trying to increase how many lengths I can sustain FC. I can only manage 100m continuously but did 10/30 lengths crawl on Sunday (4 to begin, 2 to end & another 4 singles randomly in the middle with the rest backcrawl). Figure I need to work on breathing so have been YouTubing for tips!

Thisismyhappyface · 02/07/2018 22:41

Is this thread open to open water swimmers? I don't do much in the pool, but have just started swimming in the lake a couple of times a week. Hoping to up that to 4x once kids break up

SkiGirl007 · 03/07/2018 07:20

I’d love to get into openwater swimming happyface ive tried in the sea recently which I enjoyed when really calm but we went again at the wend and it was far too big a swell for me I was too scared. The nearest lake is an hour+ away.

boxcar I got better at going further on FC by using a kick float between my legs and just focusing on arms & breathing ignoring my legs mostly.

SingingAvocado · 03/07/2018 13:16

Open water swimmers very welcome, happy. I'll have to get you to talk me into being brave enough to swim open water. Welcome too to box and user.

The pool was quite quiet for a Tuesday morning today which made for a good swim. Did my usual 2km with a couple more lengths as I thought I might have lost count!

tizwozliz · 03/07/2018 13:23

Think I'm going to be doing the Derwent Epic 1500m swim this Sunday, so will have to try and get an open water practice swim in beforehand and check my wetsuit still fits!

CorrigansDoorKnob · 04/07/2018 21:56

I’m an open water swimmer. Although it’s a bit cold in the ocean in Aus now. I love the sound of the Derwent swim tizwoz. Let us know how it goes.

I’m in the UK at the moment and I was pleasantly surprised by the local pool this week. All brand spanking new and I had a lane to myself for most of the swim in the morning at 7am. It’s usually a scrum in the mornings in my local pools down under.

SkiGirl007 · 05/07/2018 21:49

Speedy (for me) mile swim tonight, started off with 4in the lane and ended up doing last 20L just me as pool really emptied out Smile super smelly guy though in lane next to me Shock very strong body spray literally took my breathe away every time he swam past. Why oh why can’t people shower on entry like the BIG sign asks them to!

AdventuresRUs · 05/07/2018 23:42

Namechange from scared PAD (I dont have PAD yay!)

Wow for own lame in the morning Corri - I tend to swim in school hours as its a little quieter but own lane still rare!

Ski - i hate the smelly sprays when you pass people. Yay for a fast mile. I wanted to try a mile today but i didnt have long enough!

boxcar · 08/07/2018 20:36

Haven't been able to make it to the pool all week but finally got to try out my new googles today. I'd ordered the Aquasphere Kayenne on Ski's recommendation and success! Had been googling FC technique and worked on changing my arm action. It worked well enough that I tried 6 lengths continuous FC and found that easy enough. Going to keep practising next week then see how much I can manage the week after. Hoping I'm getting close to being able to start running again but planning on keeping up with the swimming as cross training.

SkiGirl007 · 10/07/2018 07:12

Glad goggles worked boxcar. I swim mainly as cross training to running but I enjoy it more at the moment whilst it’s too flipping hot! Did both run and swim yesterday, it stretched out my body nicely.

SingingAvocado · 10/07/2018 11:35

I moved to swimming after hurting my ankle running and I've never gone back to running, Boxcar. Part of the reason is that 2 years on my ankle still niggles and part of it is that I enjoy the swimming: it is less solitary than running, and I think I'm better at it than I was running (I wasn't a speedy runner). On the downside it does take a lot longer than just popping out your front door, and there is the cost of swim membership now. But I reckon I've never been fitter (I'm 40 now).

AdventuresRUs · 10/07/2018 13:23

I swam a mile! Well just over. It took me a good while but I did it and feel so proud :)

I would love to do the c25k once Ive lost (a lot of) weight but I truly love the headspace I get swimming.

CorrigansDoorKnob · 10/07/2018 18:29

I managed to have a lane to myself in a 50m pool! I had timed it wrong and arrived 20 mins until they closed the pool however. I did a speedy k and lamented the lack of all day lane swimming in the UK.

I’m with you Avo - swimming is much more time consuming than running, it’s a cause of ongoing friction with DH. He just puts his runners on and is back an hour later having done his run. It takes me double that, once you factor in getting there and back etc, especially if it’s a squad swim and you need to arrive slightly earlier.

AdventuresRUs · 10/07/2018 18:45

Really Corrigans? Wow - our big pool (south uk) has lane swimming all day and had (obviously wrongly) assumed most non-rural people had a pool with lane swimming near them. The next big city along does too as its multi-pool. I have a slightly nearer one that has times up I sometimes use as its free parking but theres always the main one for lane swimming!

Yay for lane to self. I love it when that happens!

tizwozliz · 10/07/2018 18:59

Didn't end up entering the open water swim for various reasons.

In my experience having lane swimming available all day is not the norm. The pool I swim at now has lane swimming most of the time, but there's half hour gaps where they convert the pool from 50m to 25m or change the depths so you can't just turn up as you risk there only be 20 minutes left of a session. But that's the best timetable i've experienced in terms of lane swimming availability. I actually drive past two other pools to go there.

It really frustrates me that a lot of the city pools all follow a very similar timetable. There are 7 pools i can swim at with my membership but none of them open on Saturday and Sunday evenings and all are closed on bank holidays.

AdventuresRUs · 10/07/2018 19:46

Wow I feel really lucky now. Its a really old pool and I actually prefer the smaller one but there's always at least 3 lanes for swimming. Theres quite a lot of other pools in the area that are just single pools which would have a timetable but the main central one has lanes!

AdventuresRUs · 10/07/2018 19:49

We dont have swim tag at the 2 pools I swim at though. I like the sound of swimtag. And the private pools probably have nicer changing rooms!

tizwozliz · 10/07/2018 20:00

Not so much at this time of year, but in the winter the underfloor heating in the changing rooms at the pool is a big reason I travel to the pool that i do.

boxcar · 10/07/2018 21:07

I did C25K back in the winter AdventuresRUs having not done any exercise for a loooong time. I chose running over swimming just for ease for fitting it in. As Avo & Corrigans have said, it's the travelling and changing etc on top of the swim time but I'm also finding it difficult to find handy swim sessions. Public swims are busy and adult lane swims are too late in the evening for me.

I really want to get back to running because I was enjoying it and it was easy to fit in but I'm worrying about getting injured again. I was slowly and carefully increasing my distance (got to 8K) and then it was game over: tendonitis. I'm going to leave it until the end of the month and see how I am then. My ankle's feeling better but is still swollen every evening at the moment. What I really don't want is to go back to being unfit.

I went swimming tonight but there was only 1 lane full of fast men and then in the rest of the pool it was packed. I carried on practising changing my FC stroke. Getting better. It feels easier.

tizwozliz · 11/07/2018 10:38

Really dispiriting swim today. Had a lane to myself so took the opportunity to do some timed swims and I'm slower than I was 2 months ago Sad Need a new training plan

AdventuresRUs · 11/07/2018 21:34

I had a pool almost to myself it felt like (3 people in 5 lanes) during the football. I did another mile! But it was slower.

I have no idea how to develop a swimming training programme! Im just swimming....

bruffin · 11/07/2018 21:49

I had a lesson today did some fast 2 lengths then minute wait x 4. Then made it up to 80 length afters. Pool was really choppy as they were doing a back wash, so made it a bit harder work.

Hissy · 13/07/2018 16:29

Reporting in... ridiculous absence, I apologise!

Am swimming the Henley Mile again on Sunday - if anyone else is, please say and who knows, we could meet up IRL!!

Bit nervous, but not as bad as last year and I'm feeling better about my swimming atm so that must help me dodge the sharks/monsters/piranhas lurking in the Thames waiting to eat me, for sure.

Swimming is going well. finally. I've had a few months where it's been mentally challenging, i've been feeling hopeless and outclassed. I considered giving up swimming, not doing the mile and everything. Had s smidge of an injury, thankfully I treated that in the right way and i'm tip top again. Hand paddles are remaining in the swim bag for a while though.

Last night there only half a dozen of us at Masters and it was a good (hard) session. Our GB masters medal winning teammate gave the session and he is a force to be reckoned with. Love him to bits, but he's tough and even harsher than our lovely (but killer) coach. I pushed myself and was actually able to see some gains and have a bit of an experiment with techniques here and there.

We ALL have good and bad phases/sessions. Sometimes we have an amazing time and others it's like the water becomes treacle and everything that can go badly does. It DOES get better. It might feel like it takes forever to get better, but it really does.

For those who are struggling with speed - (and I recognise how spectacularly unhelpful this sounds) to swim faster, you have to swim faster... you have to swim with faster swimmers, swim to 90% effort and then take only enough rest to go again.

There are apps/sites to help with programmes - the Zero to 1 mile is a good place to start, it helps with distance.

We did a session last night as our main set which is specifically designed to improve speed

4-3-2-1 all Front crawl (but you could adapt the stroke/time I think)
4 x 100m in 2.15
4 x 50 in 1.15

Apologies for Grannies and Eggs, but in case explication is needed - This means you do your 100m in 2mins, wait for 15 seconds and then go again. Likewise the 4 x 50 in 1.15

3 x 100 in 2.05
3 x 50 in 1.05

2 x 100 in 1.55
2 x 50 in 55s

1 x 100 MAX
1 x 50 MAX

NOTE: I didn't manage these times on the shorter times for 3, 2 and 1x but I did manage to hold the pace throughout all sets. I was bloody knackered for the final 100m though.

If you need more time than this, then do 100m in a time that you are comfortable with, medium exertion then give yourself 15/20secs before starting the next 100m

If you need to halve this to 50s and 25s, that's good too - it's about finding a pace and pushing it just a little bit.

Another way of getting faster is to work on separate parts of your stroke, take the float and get some kicking done, then pull buoy to focus on arms, looking at smooth entry early hand entry, extending into the stroke and then pulling all the way through. speed is not the focal point here so much as technique and strength.