Runners United - Conwy Cockwatch, a live birth and Alex "Rhet" Ferguson in one thread. What more could we ask for?

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LET'S FUCKING DO IT....!

sfx that's such a good point about ethical practice - applies across the board, really. I do love my job (most of the time) but the environment has changed so much and students' expectations are quite different too. I would happily retrain to be an occupational therapist - not going to happen though

Book arrived Wheely ...many thanks! I look forward to reading it and sorting out my training plan :)

Yes, doing a job that you really love would be such a privilage. My first degree was in History but then I went back and did an MSc in I.T., as I couldn't bearvthought of earning 8k a year for the rest of my life, working in a shop . There are worse jobs to be fair, but glad I ditched it to be SAHM for a while. Not sure what I'll do when I go back. No doubt something mind blowing with earth shattering consequences...

almost no sleep last night till 7am due to wakeful baby Kaye and crazy cluster feeding activities. Still, at least she is getting more interested in the milk. Just need to get her to do it in the evening instead of during night! Anyone know where thebprogramming button is on these things?!?

Must learn to spell however, before anyone will give me a job.

Ohhh Fanny's Fit as Fuck Camp has a certain je nai sais quoi...

sticky I'm still undecided - I did love it and I know I'll kick myself if I don't do it and yes, meeting you may swing it for me.

peach Kate will get the hang of it, first couple of weeks very peculiar with feeding. Just rest as much as you can so you're not too exhausted. I always co-slept with mine - I am a firm believer in it and i well always well rested. Not everyone's cup of tea though.

rhet any more contractions over the Irish Sea?

Just thinking, that's why my tits are awful, it's cos they spent months being used as udders while I was sleeping on my side. DDs probably stretched them across a king size bed each night and I was merrily sleeping away.

fanny I'd certainly sign up for the FFAF camp! And funnily enough, a week ago I met up with the Durham MNers and they were all saying they reckoned that if co-sleeping was properly explained, rather than just telling people not to do it, then breastfeeding rates would go up tremendously. I think there's a silent majority waiting to get out there...

peach I never found that button either . Did you ever see the film "Robots" (children's animated one). At the beginning of that, they have a baby robot, who starts crying, so they just turn down the volume switch. What a marvellous idea! Hope you get a bit of kip later - is it today your MIL is turning up to help?

I should be changing into my running kit - but (a) it looks like it's going to piss down, it's so dark and (b) I just got my hair cut so I am looking quite chic for once (from the neck up, anyway ). I need motivation to get me out there....

Morning all. Legs very stiff from hills last night

I am now going to dumb this thread down amongst all this talk of academia as I am baout as academic as a rat. Hated school, hated college and never went to uni.

debi waiting for a response from Manc, will keep you posted.

Excited for my headband to arrive.

sticky GET YOUR FUCKIN' ARSE OUT THE DOOR NOW OR IT'S YOUR ARSE THAT'S GONNA PAY!! That motivational enough for you...?

I agree re breastfeeding. Never drank at all, a non smoker, put DD in her own sleeping bag, no pillow. I had quilt around me and DH slept in spare room. Both of us well rested. I was back out running 2 months after having DD2 and was not tired at all. Such a wonderful bond too. I'd lie there just stroking their gorgeous little baby faces knowing that I'd never get that time with them again. Now when they're in bed with us they wanting the flaming iPad!

DrNo wrapping them up now my love! Post them this avvy. Did you say you did 11 hill repeats last night!? . How long are the hills? Bet you're blooding aching.

DH away this weekend from tomorrow, shooting in Scotland. DD1 looked at him very worryingly last night and said solemnly "but DAD, how WILL we cope??" . Says it all don't it?!

I agree re breastfeeding and co-sleeping that should read.

Another co sleeper here I usually take the path of least resistance and pick my battles
peach Kate will get it I never attempted much structure before 6-8 wks

DrN never went to uni until now Things took odd turns in my life but I live studying always have

fanny you know you would be amazing as a personal trainer

Shirt foggy jog thus morning, now visiting with elderly aunt she cracks me up

Parents night last night dd had told them she was very busy with all her emails and keeping up with twitter geek junior

About careers finding something that you like helps I have done a fair few shitty jobs but some I adored despite long hrs and not much pay

sticky, ha ha, that's a great idea! MIL arrived yesterday so she had been up with DD1 this morning while we doze and feed.

fanny, yeah good call, I co-slept with DD1, DP was consigned to the spare bed. We don't have a spare bed now and this one, I feel is a bit small but will play it by ear. Latch getting much better so sore nips should be a thing of the past soon!

We should get you a spot on breakfast tv fanny, you could be like a modern day foul-mouthed Mad Lizzy!!!

That should be love study even when not formally in education I looked for new stuff to learn and bother people in assorted fields of interest with questions

Anyone remember Biggest loser UK with Angie the Personal Trainer? Sadly she killed herslef, it's all over the news. Only 42 I really liked her.

sfx your DD sounds very cool!

drno hope your legs relax out a bit today. But think of how strong you'll be, all that acceleration!

ok fanny... you're now reminding me of that woman at the beginning of the Fame tv programme... have you got a stick? Going out now to start paying. And sweat. See you all later xx

debi the hotels doesn't know......not been informed yet. Sorry!

Hi everyone - just back from Ethiopia this morning - set off 13 hours ago so need to go to bed for a bit of kip so this will be quick. ish.

first thing's first peach many many congratulations - lovely news, lovely name, hope you are basking in lots of gooey post-birth hormones and general loveliness.

second: rhet I had to trawl the best part of 1000 posts to check dp hadn't produced the goods too - hope all is well and you know we're all checking/thinking/anticipating etc

The Ethiopia trip was great. I sat on the plane and got out the copy of Prospect I'd bought and there, right infront of me, was a really interesting article about East African runners and altitude training. It looked at the use of altitute tents and how you draw a line between banned doping and non-banned scientific stuff that improves performance. all very interesting. my favourite line was that in the 18th century gentlemen didn't think it was in the spirit of sport to train.

I went out for two runs while I was there - I was a bit nervous about being a lone white ferenji running on the road (pavements non-existent) in lycra but it was absolutely fine. I got an occasional clap, a few smiles, and the odd words of encouragment but mostly got ignored - apart from when I was negotiating the hair-raising road junctions when nearly everytime someone would help me across. No suprises that the poverty is incredibly visible - more so than anywhere else I've been - it's not a pocket in the odd place - it's everywhere. Staying at a posh hotel - you're not in some posh suburb as is usually the case - but there are slums all around. I felt the altitude - and the smog - when running so I took it pretty gently - but pease with myself for getting out there rather than going to the gym. I love running in new places - it's such a good way to see more than you would otherwise.

The other thing I wanted to share with you all might sound a bit random - but I had a bit of an "I love being a middle aged woman" experience. I was surrounded by similar-aged women, some with kids, some not, all with really interesting jobs, and all so honest and warm and kindly confident in a way that I think grows in you as you get older, see more of the world, share experiences with other women. I felt very lucky and very contented to be who I am (warts and all, bad experiences and all). [vaguely soppy emoticon]

right I must go to bed. I will check teh thread more thoroughly and come back soon. keep running. or rubbing.

hat that was one of the most loveliest posts I've read on here. It sounded like that was a very inspiring trip. Wow at you taking the plunge and running there. A lot of westerners wouldn't even consider it.

Afternoon all, well done to those of you that have made it out! I'll do a short run tonight. Did the shred last night with DH - you will be pleased to know that his valuables were secured this time - we did level 1 together then I did level 2 on my own. Phew.

I didn't see the Biggest Loser UK DrN but will check the news - what a shame. Your photos were lovely btw, not the least bit Help Me Jesus!

hat that's a lovely post. Sounds like you really enjoy your job.

I'd love to find a job I enjoy - to be fair I loved being a lawyer, loved (almost all of) my clients, loved the intellectual side of it .... but I loathed the cut-throat, trample anyone who got in your way, office politics. When I gave up work we gave up our bigger income, but it worked for us and I didn't want to be like some of the women I worked with - two nannies, getting a taxi home to breastfeed and then a taxi back into the office to work half the night. Not really sure I have any skills left to offer an employer now other than shouting at organising the children and wiping bums taking care of their needs!

peach if you have any tips on how to get ds1 out of my bed at night, I'd welcome them. He's a horror for sneaking in with me. Goes to bed in his own room, then we play musical beds for a bit - DH often ends up in the spare room/bed (ds3 is in the cot in there), and ds1 usually sneaks in. So I wake up for a cuddle with DH and find ds1 and assorted cuddlies in bed with me . Loved breastfeeding, all of mine were fed for over a year. Fed ds1 until I was 7 months pregnant and the GP told me to stop or I could compromise ds2's growth - he was 9 lbs 10 oz!

sfx DH works in insurance but as a lawyer - does that get a double yawn? . Had a very interesting conversation yesterday with the consultant about private healthcare, as DH used to deal with complaints about claims (not part of his job anymore thank goodness). The consultant can't wait to meet him to trade stories!

Hope all the injuries are getting better.

Right I have done 9 miles of the route for the race and it was not good . It was one of those runs where you legs feel heavy and don't want to move right from the start. Plus the course is very hilly and I really stuggled on the hills. I did it in 1 hr and 36 mins which not too bad considered I really struggled. As soon I stopped my legs were killing me and very achey and stiff now I have gone very cold and shivery fterwards too. I treted my self to a packet of crisps from the shop but only managed to have a few then dropped them on the floor accidentally , I was really enjoying them too. Obviously not feeling quite so positive about the race now, but on the plus side I didn't get lost and I have another go at a trial run of it next week (going to do full 10 miles then), then race is the week after. So have time to improve. Also very nice man at petrol station I popped into at mile 6 to buy water, when he saw me pouring it into my water bottle he said not to buy one next time and he will let me top my water bottle up from the tap .
Hat that is a lovely post.I admire you for getting out there and running, here's me worrying about getting lost and doing trial runs in my car and you just getting out there and doing it.
Not read nything else yet but going to get in the bath and warm up. Then I will have a good catch up

GReat post hat

orange well done for going out and doing it. Don't worry about it being a bad run - will soon be forgotten when you run again. Good on the petrol station man for offering water next time.

Loving the typos on this thread - puzzled a bit over "shirt foggy jog", in your earlier post sfx, but then the penny dropped.

Re careers, I am a statistician, ie do stuff with numbers. Currently work as tutor from home which suited me fine when DCs were small, but now realising that I need to get out, and in fact am in process of applying for research job. Often hanker after being a radiographer though. Or an archivist. Or something. Think (at 46) am prob too old to retrain though.

orange the important thing is you (F) did it. The runs which don't go so well are better training in some ways than the ones where you feel like you're flying along, they get you used to carrying on when you feel less than 100%.

just realised it's a while since Rhet last posted....

Oh orange don't worry about training runs. I've had some hellish ones, the main thing is you have done the mileage. On the day, things come together. I'm gutted I'm not doing this Stockport one.