Runners United - Conwy Cockwatch, a live birth and Alex "Rhet" Ferguson in one thread. What more could we ask for?

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LET'S FUCKING DO IT....!

chip and number arrived today for Saturday...wonder if I will be running, or not!

monkey - just wanted to say you are better off than you think you are because (a) your DS is already showing incredible resolve for his age and (b) any sort of behaviour like this that goes on with those oiks at school will therefore only serve to make him a stronger and more confident child by the sounds of things. You should be proud of how he is handling it. Much as we would like to, we cannot change the way people think or speak and so if another child's actions are primarily learnt from the way their parents behave and speak, then you just have to accept them for the cretins they are.

monkey you should certainly be very proud of your DS, he sounds a wonderful little boy and very mature for his age (in fact, just mature full stop). Moshi is very right.

rhet will you be wearing your antlers in the delivery suite?!

Just back from 12 mile run (2:06). Started off really slow, knees were very stiff, but by about 3 miles in was properly warmed through. At miles 7-8-9 I met a lovely chap - approaching 73 years old he said! - very wiry and shorter than me, and doing a good pace. So just looking back at my stats, I did 9:39 m\m there. I must take him with me whenever I go running, clearly!

Oh monkey how hard for you all but I echo everyone else in saying how mature your ds sounds and how proud you should be of him. However, that doesn't always help when all you want to do is go in and slap the horrible child who is making yours upset. I hope your dh gets it sorted and that shred helped in the short term.

10 miles this morning for me. Chilly ! Made me realise that I haven't completely grown out of asthma. My main triggers were always cold and exercise and I felt quite tight all the way round. Must dig out my inhaler . I ended up taking a slightly different route to normal as I spotted the BMF class and knew my friend might be there so ran passed them, couldn't see her and ended up on one of the horse tracks in Richmond Psrk which was sand so made for some interesting running. I then decided at mile 8 to add in the steepest hill I know which I have avoided for 18 months since I almost lost my lunch on it. Anyway, I heard fanny in my head telling me not to be a wuss and went for it. Probably nothing by some people's standards but I got up it fine.

Anyway, shins seem to be twinging a bit....

Off to spreadsheet my half training plan
now I know I can add some easy weeks in !

Thank youo all for being so lovely . Had a good rant and rave at Jillian too (she didn't seeem to mind ) and I feel much better. Catch up properly later.

oh monkey, my heart breaks for him. He does sound very mature and seems like a wee gem but glad that DH is going to see school. It is really unacceptable and just too depressing for words to think they have learned this type of attitude from their parents. DP used to get teased at school for being "soft", i.e. not playing football and giving his mum a hug at the school gate etc. Not nice at all. Glad Jillian helped you work out some aggression

Good runs Wheely, sticky, and Rhet!
My lovely MIL leaves tomorrow , but has just gone out and bought us a week's worth of meals from Cook. Don't know if they have that shop everywhere but it does frozen ready meals, but lovely posh ones. She also got loads of cake/treats. So sweet of her and must have spent at least £100.

Oh wow that's v generous and helpful of your MIL. Takes one pressure off at least!

hello finally sort of caught up apologies for omissions

well done to
ibby great time and lovely to have enjoyed it
sonic good feeling to finish under target and fab to have coffee and muffins afterwards
squix yes of course antlers would have messed up the aerodynamics
running your race sounds great and challenging, love your strategy

fanny any bruises aprt from carpet burns or any more domestic incidents?
peach glad to hear the sleep business is moving in the right direction and hurrah for MIL
june hope you had fun at the body combat

monkey I am so sorry your son is going through this, unfortunately not everyone actually bothers to educate their children, I think it is right to go to the school and get them to pay attention. you son is clearly a thoughtful and resilient little boy

orange how goes the PMT? I seldom cry but get pretty short tempered

here all going ok except that dh will be out of a job by the 21st but still we must not complain there are plenty of people in a worst situation, I am planning in doing temp work in the new year.

hat I have worked in the field since I was about 19 in some role or other including in management. I genuinely like it but it is not a particularly well regarded area, no one ever pays much attention to it unless to complain about costs or to react to some obvious scandal the press picks up on slow news days

and I managed a pitiful 3 miles today, really really must push self

Oh no sfx, very sorry to hear about DH's job. What are the prospects like in his field for a new one?

peach should be ok, he is fairly specialised and not very cheap so he just runs on contracts which everyone is trying to avoid but inevitably need, hopefully if it does not take longer than 3 months we should be fine. it has happened before.

peach that sounds lovely! But you mean you didnt spend the pregnancy cooking and freezing lasagne? (I didn't either, far more to life than a frozen lasagne!)

sfx sorry to hear about your DH's job, but you're right to be sanguine about it. Hopefully things will pick up in the new year. DH feels he's going nowwhere in his job at the moment, but it's as secure as it can be and so he's going to stick with it for now and hopoefully make the move when things get better.

monkey, I had actually made a few extra portions of things, but not many, so can have these after the goodies run out. We are also drowning in chocolate which lefts face it, is no bad thing!!!

Anyone else getting their Xmas tree this weekend? I am very excited . just had my first mince pie. It were lush!

Where, for example, is that fanny??

. I love my kids with all my heart, I truly do. However sometimes they fucking kill me. Some days is tantamount to Guantanamo Bay torture.

Anyway sod the kids, let's talk about rubbing!!!

Right, skimmed through thread on iPhone so apologies if missed anything.

Firstly monkey - you want me to come down your way kidda and sort this fucker of a kid out...? I'm going to reiterate what everyone else has already said and say that your DS sounds like an absolute delight and it's a testament to your parenting how bloody marvellous he is dealing with said bastard child persecuting him. I always say bullies only pick on children that make them feel inferior. Your son probably unnerves the bully because he sees a lad who is comfortable in his own skin. Good luck to your DS and if it's not sorted, I'd be banging on the head teachers door every day until it is. If not, I'd have a word with the child myself in front of his parents. I'd embarrass them.

rhet no DD2 yet...?

Hang on, I'll be back in a mo...

03/12/11 - Jingle Bells 5k Phoenix Park - rhetorician
11/12/11 - Stockport 10 (mealworm one) -orangehead
01/01/11 - Morpeth 11k Road Race - AngeChica
07/01/12 - Bupa Great Winter Run 5k Holyrood park - bumply
08/01/12 - Southwest Road Runners First Chance 10k - RunningAllDay
22/01/12 - Four Villages Half Marathon (Helsby) - Fannybanjo
19/02/12 - Brighton Half marathon - Wheely
04/03/12 - Milton Keynes Half Marathon - pawsnclaws
04/03/12 - Duchy Marathon - RunningAllDay
10/03/12 - Blackpool Half Marathon - DrNortherner, Fannybanjo
11/03/12 - Cambridge Half Marathon - Futurity, Runnerstipple, Cherry (what have I done??), Bonkers20
25/03/12 - Edale Skyline - (21 miles. 4,500 ft climb) Hatwoman
25/03/12 - Fleet Half Marathon- DebitheScot
25/03/11 - Run Northumberland HM - AngeChica
31/03/12 - Olympic Park Run - wiifitmama, runerstipple
01/04/12 - Reading Half-Marathon - RunningAllDay, Tulip27
15/04/12 - Cambourne 10K - Futurity
22/04/12 - VLM: ibbydibby, AngeChica
28&29/04/12 - Wye Forest 50 (miles!) - RunningAllDay
29/04/12 - Shakespeare Half Marathon - FairyBasslet
27/05/12 - London Bupa 10K - Futurity
09/06/12 - Blenheim Sprint Triathlon - Cherry
29/06/12 - San Francisco Marathon - MoshiMoshi

Thanks for comments re race, and well done indeed to Sonic - sounds like you did the opposite to me: fast, flat and paced! Added in my 2012 commitments above. Not many left for this year, I see.

Yes, peach - already have the tree up, and fairy lights festooning the conservatory. We even have presents under the tree, which is making the DDs hyper.

sfx - so sorry to hear about your DH. Hope it didn't come as too much of a shock.

rhet ran my first 'recovery run' (toe still purple but hurting less so thought I would risk it!) at HR < 70%. I barely broke a sweat, yet only took 2 mins longer than normal, over 3 miles, where normally I'd be panting, thanks to the hills. How does that work?!! Hope you manage to get out for some long ones - could you do pre-waking? or post-sleeping? When my DH is away in December, I may have to resort to this to get my long ones in somehow.

monkey I hope tomorrow brings a better day. Made my heart break to read your post.

I'm not a superwoman, or very hardcore. Just disorganised, arranging friends and races on the same day! But with DH away so much, we have to fit our family social life (and my races) into 6 months of the year which makes it all rather packed. Then I get a month off, just me and the kids. But just because life isn't quite interesting enough, we've decided to put our house on the market. Daily hoovering, here I come - need some fanny lessons on housewifery... :)

Ahhh can't read the thread properly on my phone - it won't load any more than last few messages. Sorry, I'll reply properly and read race reports tomorrow.

Just want to say..

peach lucky you with such a great MIL! That's got to be a first on this thread. Hope baby K doing ok and how is feeding going?

sfx sorry about your DH. I know how hard that is so hope things pick up.

june nice to hear from you, was wondering where you'd gone! Hope marathon of body combat went well.

DrNo how did say with mum go? Your work headband yet?

Stair-gate. . I am still alive. I have a small bruise on my arm. Wilson is the handyman who I shag when I'm not parenting or ironing.

Did 5 miles last night - first time friend and I just went out and "jogged" as we were both so tired. "Jogging" was a 9m/m average pace.

In bed tonight as no sofas in living room as new ones coming tomorrow and a friend has taken our old ones today.

After a lazy week fitness wise ( due to craziness at work and overtime) I've made a start to the week the way I mean to carry on.
Did a 3 mile run before breakfast.
11:25
11:38
14:00 walked last section as cool down

And went swimming after work with a good few lengths now that ds2 doesn't require constant attention.

Well done to all the weekend racers.
It's all inspiring stuff.

Oh monkey thats awful your poor ds. It so horrible you just want to protect them. Agree wth everyone you should be very proud of him he sounds very mature and he is a credit to you. Hope your dh gets things sorted.
Well done wheely with the hill
peach regarding warm up I did the route of the run again so a bit of a drive but did a bit of a warm up in the toilets at the park where it starts. Thankfully no one walked in. I seemed to be ok temperature wise, got a bit hot at one point but when I took my head band off felt better. Your mil sounds a star btw.
sfx pmt not good I'm being a total bitch . I'm usually more down and hungry with pmt but every now and then have an angry month like this one . Gosh sorry about dh job. Must be worrying. What does he do?
fanny sorry you having a bad day.
Set out to do 10 miles this morning, gotto mile 8 and my knee started hurting. I was unsure whether to carry on or not. I managed another mile but then it started hurting more so I walked for a couple of mins to which it felt fine so I tried slow running but it hurt again so I finished. It not too bad now but still sore and a bit swollen also all down the inside of my shin on the same leg sore. I put a support bandage on my knee and that seems to help and going to ice it in a bit. Hopefully it just a little blip and be ok in a few days and won't interfere with my training or race.
I have also made a docs appointment for next tuesday to either say I'm pregnant (unlikely with the bad pmt) or say I have been trying for a year

Sorry to Hear about dh's job sfx. Hope it doesn't take long to find something else.

orange - hope the knee is ok. I too struggled with what to wear this morning. I opted for a short sleeve top under a long
Sleeve so I could take off the long sleeve as I usually get v hot. Added issue is that I like to start my long runs from dd2s nursery so have to do school drop off then nursery
Drop off without a big coat (I wore a thick zip up Sweatshirt which I left in a bag Hanging From dd's scooter but that's not
Going to work when it's even colder). Sorry if you're appointment is for the latter - I remember it well. I hope they take you seriously and get you in the system. Did you conceive your other Dcs ok ?

Sorry about random caps .... Still trying to work this iPad out

Right, here goes. My first race report:

Night before: DD2 (3 years) threw up in bed at 10.30. No warning. So, by the time I sorted her out and changed her bedding etc I got to bed at 11.20. Was woken up several more times in the night with poorliness.

DH gave me a lie in. Was woken at 8.20 with a friend's "good luck" text!

At the venue: Was surprised to see men there. Know this sounds wierd, but I've only ever run the Race For Life before! Was freezing and had to sit in car until just before race. I have renauds (circulatory problem which basically means I get really cold quite easily!)

The run: Very soon after I began it became obvious that almost everyone was planning to run faster than me. Having had previous warning of this I didn't try to keep up, just kept at my own slowish pace. I was definitely in the last quarter if not the last 5th. After about 1km I decided I needed to pinpoint a pacemaker. I kept behind a woman with bright red hair. It soon became apparent that she usually marshalled at the race. All the marshalls knew her and kept wishing her well and cheering her on then ignoring me! I was feeling a bit neglected and could have done with the encouragement. I was already finding the run really hard work and worried about how I was going to manage it!

I wanted to overtake and lose the red head, but just didn't have the energy. Eventually at 4km we went downhill and I managed to take her, only to be overtaken again on the flat! As she did take me she gave me some advice, "there's a big hill coming up, don't bend over when you go up", (which I do). Then she proceded to take a short cut through the park and cut off the corner herself! Didn't see much more of her after that. I took her advice and did the hill upright, (good advice I'm assuming?)

I actually thought I might be physically sick when I reached the top of the hill, but I wasn't.

I actually found the last half of the race easier than the first. I think psychologically it was easier because I knew I could do it by then, if that makes any sense! At 8km DH was stood at a corner with my 2 beautiful dds. It certainly was a sight for sore eyes! I stopped for 2 seconds to give the girls kisses, then carried on.

the last 400m was round a race track. I felt like there was no one behind me; like I was the last person to finish. (I wasn't btw!) I felt proud though. Proud of myself for running all the way and even for my time, although I know I didn't brake and records!

I crossed the line in 1hour 9minutes and 13seconds. I cried when I hugged my dds and dh, (emotional wreck if you hadn't already realised!)

I've never run 6.2 miles. The most I managed in training was 4 miles. So, I said I broke no records, but I guess it was my PB!

I think I might have caught the running bug!

I have the same problem wheely as often run from boys school but it a good 10-15 walk to the school which will be difficult when very cold.
Both ds's were not even planned. I had previously had 3 mcs before ds1 which were planned and took a few months each time. I was so depressed after the mcs we stopped trying then got pregnant accidentally. Then 7 months after he born found out I was accidentally pregnant again. Come to think of it I had pnd then, maybe thats it I need to get depressed to get pregnant . I already know I have scar tissue from cs, I asked gp about it a few months ago and he said if scar tissue has gone in the tubes can affect things but he said he can't refer me till been trying for 12 months even if already know I have scar tissue.

Well done jez you have jut set me off crying when reading about you finishing, so nice.

fantastic Jazabelle onwards you go how is dd2?

orange I find that my advancing years brought with it raging PMT I feel I might explode I keep a diary to give me warning, plan snacks, take supplements and try to keep calm as much as possible

about job, it is a relief to let it out, we are not overly concerned apart from the usual, it is not a surprise as dh is a self employed contractor and no contracts last longer than 3 months. he works in data migration and what not

Well done jezabelle great race report. Sniff sniff ! A great achievement .

orange good luck with the docs. I too had got pg easily twice (1 MC) before infertility struck. I was lucky and got pg after only fairly basic tests and treatment.

jezabelle well done - that's a great achievement
orange good luck with appointment, but hope it's good news.
sfxmum sorry about DH's job, but you sound upbeat (I spent a good bit of my run today contemplating imminent financial catastrophe: concluded that at least we have an allotment and we could barter turnips )

don't think dd will be born in this thread, but pretty sure she'll turn up on the next one :o (would like a few nights' good sleep first...ain't gonna happen)

I often run after DD drop-off too - usually take her on bike, but extremities get v. chilly and the nursery staff all think I am crazy crazy - think I will just leave a small bag of woollies on bike - I doubt if they'll get nicked. I don't much like having to run with hoodies etc tied around my waist. It's a conundrum - was easier when I took the car could just leave kit in it...