Brexit mega thread part 13: All eyes on Ireland

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With the Windsor framework up & running, and the DUP having a "you could set your calendar by it" hissy fit, but Irish unification refusing to keep it's head down, what next in the long running sage of UK vs. the real world ?

Could I just point out that Globetrotter's most recent link above doesn't work and strangely the date of that Edge article when you get there via roundabout means, is 1st April?

I just read the the writer's bio at the end of the article

Worth a click

I like the sound of Grant Gallagher, @DuncinToffee
In other news, I'm not convinced that statement about UK tax rates in relation to certain other EU countries is strictly accurate. Quelle surprise !

@IItisymoi has caused material harm to our children

What harm have I done to your children?

@HannibalHeyes spends most of it's time in St Petersburg.

Never been to St. Petersburg, but heard it is very beautiful. Spent time in Astrakhan in 2006 when on the Kashagan project,

@Jaichangecentfoisdenom

Look at

2024 Personal Income Tax Rates in Europe | Tax Foundation

France 55.4%
Germany 47.5%
Bulgaria 10%
UK 45%

Yes, because all tax is income tax...

@HannibalHeyes Yes, because all tax is income tax...

Maybe you need to look at

Types of Tax we pay | One Accounting

It lists 21 different taxes.

No, I think maybe you need to look at that.

@HannibalHeyes

I have. Many of the taxes listed relate to purchases as opposed to income.

Well spotted! You're learning!

@IItisymoi thinking of the grief the Brits will have at Dover, it serves them right for being so inconsiderate

Fly instead. I passed through Charles de Gaulle airport twice last week. The queues at the all passports counters were tiny in comparison to the others.

Often the case at Schiphol too on arrival as many people seem to struggle at the e-gates and sometimes not working at all. Departure is easy as UK passports can be used at the e-gates, but still need to be stamped once through the gate.

However, that is due to change next year as the EU intrduces the EES and self service kiosks to monitor the 90/180 Schengen guideline.

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Had a lovely quiche for supper tonight cooked by the husband.
Sadly much of what is in my fridge is now affected by the inanity that is Brexit.

Polls don't work as history has proved.

Some people really don’t know how polls work.

Fly instead. I passed through Charles de Gaulle airport twice last week.

And how is this helping the planet?
I need to travel with several cases of equipment (tools) for my work so although I used to fly a LOT when I worked in the UK, simply bunging it all in the car and driving is a LOT simpler apart from the time I ACCIDENTALLY went through Andorra which is not in the EU. I presume Globetrotter will not volunteer to stump up the €500 or so (or a mornings paperwork exercise) to allow me to work back on plague island.
@ TiP,I can also discuss recipes too, much better tyhan trying to deal with Brexiteers!

@borntobequiet Some people reallydon’t know how polls work

Polls don't work. as proved by:

History
Parliament has never suggested that elections and referendums will be replaced by polls of a few thousand.

@IItisymoi And how is this helping the planet? to allow me to work back on plague island.

All forms of travel have a carbon footprint.

If an island is plagued, why would you want to visit?

If an island is plagued, why would you want to visit?
I enjoyed living there for 50 years (as I was born in England) but moved to France for reasons other than Brexit but there is NOTHING left in the UK for me now. I was 'banned' from MN for naming the UK solicitor who deliberately and knowingly caused a stroke and brain damage to me and fortunately the French health system had made it their responsibility to keep me alive after the NHS that my taxes had been contributing to for 40 years told me I was not now covered in the UK. YES your EHIC card (UK version) is cancelled due to Brexit so fortunately I now have a French one.

Further, The UK solicitors caused me to have regular bouts of suicidal depression (because they refused to action my strict demands for a case thyey should have been working on) and then to top it all when I raised a complaint to the legal Ombudsman they replied in an Email that I shopuld simply commit suicide because they could not be bothered to even investigate. YES I DO have 2 large boxes of paperwork that the UK solicitors were lying. This is a very good reason not to want to go to the UK again.

Polls, what they are, how they work and what can go wrong, simply explained for those who don’t understand.
No one on here has suggested that the electoral process should be abandoned in favour of such polls. No sensible person would.

https://publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld201719/ldselect/ldppdm/106/10616.htm

And yet, what was the Brexit referendum if not a poll.

OK, I guess that means you're right - they don't work...

And yet, what was the Brexit referendum if not a poll.

Well the Daily Mail recently called it a plebiscite .....

Yes the EHIC card now replaced by the GHIC card. The Govt's idea of Global - namely a card valid in fewer countries - is not mine.

@ itis - will do a recipe swap over the weekend !

@HannibalHeyes And yet, what was the Brexit referendum if not a poll.

Flawed logic. 33.5 million took part in the 2016 referendum. Approx. 72% of the electorate. Prior to the referendum, the remain supporting UK government sent out a leaflet to every household in the country to explain why remain was best and made the following statement:

This is your decision. The Government will implement what you decide.

Opinion polls are performed on samples of maybe 2,000. Approx 0.004% of the electorate.

Polls are based on logic that that a well stirred vat of soup will taste the same no matter how many samples are taken as it is the same mix of ingredients.

However, that logic cannot be applied to humans as they are not the same mix of ingredients. Also, soup is not capable of expressing an opinion by placing a cross on a ballot paper.

@borntobequiet No one on here has suggested that the electoral process should be abandoned in favour of such polls. No sensible person would.

Well done for acknowledging that polls cannot be replied upon as evidenced by the polls from 2013 to 2016 which forecast a remain outcome.

People were presented with the democratic opportunity to cancel Brexit in the 2019 general election, but chose otherwise.

From Tortoise News

https://www.tortoisemedia.com/2024/05/02/brexit-is-the-big-bet-that-went-south/