Brexit mega thread part 13: All eyes on Ireland

[SerendipityJane]

With the Windsor framework up & running, and the DUP having a "you could set your calendar by it" hissy fit, but Irish unification refusing to keep it's head down, what next in the long running sage of UK vs. the real world ?

"Wrong. Giving the Ukraine to Russia, would end the war and oil prices would fall."

And that's your consideration of the matter?

Putin apologist. We know exactly what you are here.

To quote Duncin, you have not provided links to back up your alleged "facts"

Thank you for reminding me.

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/45733-most-britons-say-brexit-has-been-more-failure

https://www.statista.com/statistics/987347/brexit-opinion-poll/#:~:text=As%20of%20March%202024%2C%2055,it%20was%20the%20right%20decision.

@borntobequiet

How many people were sampled in the polls you have quoted? Was it everyone in the UK who is over 18, Approx 48 million, or was it a few thousand?

If it was the later, I would refer you to the polls from 2013 to 2016 which forecast a remain victory in the 2016 referendum. See the thread titled "one positive of Brexit" that was posted a few months ago for details.

A sample of a few thousand can never be extrapolated to reflect the view of 48 million. If they could, why bother with elections or referendums?

Remember the petition to revoke Article 50 signed by over 6 million. The Government response was:

The Department for Exiting the European Union responded to the petition on 26 March, stating that it would not revoke Article 50:

"We will honour the result of the 2016 referendum and work with Parliament to deliver a deal that ensures we leave the European Union. The government acknowledges the considerable number of people who have signed this petition. However, close to three-quarters of the electorate took part in the 2016 referendum, trusting that the result would be respected

Link is

Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU petition - Wikipedia

So, if the Government ignores a petition of 6 million, what makes you think they will take any notice of a poll based on a few thousand?

@HannibalHeyes

Russia is not the only country to benefit from high oil prices caused by wars.

Leading oil and gas majors Shell, BP, ExxonMobil, Chevron, and TotalEnergies have collectively raked in $281bn in profits since Russia first invaded Ukraine two years ago, triggering a surge in fossil fuel prices as governments rushed to restrict Russian energy exports.

Link is:

Study: Top oil and gas majors rake in $281bn in profits since Russia invaded Ukraine | BusinessGreen News

The operators listed are: Dutch (EU member), French (EU member), UK and the US. So, they are gaining from the wars.

An example of Brexit wasting time and resources, here is the transcript of the recent statement emanating from the joint UK/EU committee for implementing the Windsor Framework. See if you can gleam any outcomes:

The Specialised Committee on the Implementation of the Windsor Framework met today in London, co-chaired by officials from the UK Government and the European Commission.
The Committee co-chairs noted the restoration of the Northern Ireland institutions in February 2024, and welcomed the significant investment into cross-border intercity rail services between Belfast and Dublin under the PEACE PLUS programme announced in April 2024.
The co-chairs took stock of the work undertaken by both sides on the implementation of the Windsor Framework since the last meeting on 24 January 2024. In particular, they discussed the implementation of the Windsor Framework in the areas of agri-food and customs, in light of the provisions that took effect in Autumn 2023. In that context, the co-chairs took stock of their preparations for the forthcoming UK-EU Joint Committee.
Having discussed the outstanding issues as well as the upcoming milestones, they agreed that intensive work should continue, with renewed efforts and commitment, to ensure the full implementation of all the elements of the Framework in a faithful and timely way.
The Committee co-chairs also took stock of the work of the Joint Consultative Working Group and its structured sub-groups. They reiterated the importance of continued joint engagement with Northern Ireland stakeholders.

"Russia is not the only country to benefit from high oil prices caused by wars.

Leading oil and gas majors Shell, BP, ExxonMobil, Chevron, and TotalEnergies have collectively raked in $281bn in profits since Russia first invaded Ukraine two years ago, triggering a surge in fossil fuel prices as governments rushed to restrict Russian energy exports."

What TF is your point? I made no point about benefiting from oil prices. It's you that seems to be desperate for Russia to be allowed to invade other countries at will...

My vote is to dissolve the United Kingdom and join Saudi Arabia. That would surely work well in dropping our oil prices?

House of Windsor 😠 vs House of Saud😠, Lets get ready to (Royal) Rumble!!

I am sooo here for this!! 😍

Interesting.

Come the election, there will be some Tories who will have forgotten which party voted for the "plebiscite". A word I have only ever seen in relation to Nazi Germany, weirdly.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13354481/Kemi-Badenoch-Lord-Cameron-guilty-dereliction-duty-Brexit.html

Some people don’t seem to understand how polls work.

https://www.itv.com/news/2024-04-26/new-checks-on-eu-imports-could-add-more-than-8-to-average-monthly-food-shop

For retailers across the country, a post-Brexit world means being tangled up in red-tape and customs charges, ITV News Business and Economics Editor Joel Hills reports

Not to mention the fact that the checks are going to be so incredibly effective...

Inland border checks are going to be off the scale bonkers. A failure of implementation only a Tory government could dream up.

1. Enter the UK.
2. Drive 22 miles to get checked.
3. If found dodgy, drive 22 miles back and meekly leave the UK.

Gaping holes ripe for exploitation.

Why does it matter? The article helpfully explains:

"The EU carries out strict controls on all goods coming into the bloc, but exerts a lower degree of control on goods transiting, for example from outside the EU to the UK."

https://x.com/edwinhayward/status/1784177395731198001

(archived link in tweet)

Cross posted with you there Hannibal

Tried to link the archived article but gave up

Brexit was meant to reinvigorate traditional English skills like smuggling, surely ?

It's hard not to see the modern Tory party as a bunch of moonrakers.

Travelling in Europe and talking with people who actually live there is very revealing in that it shows how little the small minded English (leave voters) understand about Europe. The complicated political setup of Spain which is effectively made up of 7 'kingdoms' (regions now) each with their own identity and often language too, like the UK has Wales and Scotland with different laws and customs. I felt a surprising amount of joy driving across the France/Spanish (Basque) border at 110KM/h thinking of the grief the Brits will have at Dover, it serves them right for being so inconsiderate.

My local SAinsburys stockpiling houseplants by the checkouts to get them into the UK before tomorrow - makes it too narrow to push a trolley out !!

SHOCK: New Report Reveals 100% of Britons Now SUPPORT Brexit.

Join #BrokenNews for the full story. #tuesdayvibe

https://x.com/larryandpaul/status/1785199411909316747

The 'bellyaching ' and whining by the Brexiteers is very tedious. NONE have come on here and told us how they have used their fantastic Brexit freedoms to make their and other people's lives better. Despite it's total stupidity, the 2016 referendum has been respected so now it is down to the UK citizens to sink or swim for themselves and certainly no other countries are really going to give them a free ride. Like buying the ingredients for a fancy recipe, Brexit is NOT the finished article but acollection of 'permissions' but for the last 8 years ut is up to the uK to get off it's scrawny collective backside and DO something, the subtlety of which seems to have escaped the 17 Million Leave voters.

The 'bellyaching ' and whining by the Brexiteers is very tedious. NONE have come on here and told us how they have used their fantastic Brexit freedoms to make their and other people's lives better.

They get all snowflakey about "people being nasty to us" bwah bwah. Not an iota of personal responsibility amongst 16,999,999 of them. You've more chance of finding Lord Lucan riding Shergar to victory in the Shangri-Lah open.

@borntobequiet Some people don’t seem to understand how polls work.

Polls don't work as history has proved.

@SerendipityJane @IItisymoi

‘The Brexit Era Is Over’ – EU Comes Knocking on UK’s Door, Pleading Leaders to Stand Together.

Link is:

‘The Brexit Era Is Over’ – EU Comes Knocking on UK’s Door, Pleading Leaders to Stand Together (msn.com)

I have gained from Brexit as follows:

I have worked in the EU more than anywhere else since 2016:

Bulgaria
Germany
The Netherlands
France
Later this year Belgium

Schengen allows non-EU to work in the Schengen area 90 days per 180 days, but has the caveat that immigration authorities in each member state have the final say.

Fly in Monday and fly out Friday is 4 nights in the EU and 3 nights in the UK as per the Statutory Residence Test introduced in 2013 4 nights per week is 22.5 weeks. Do that twice per year makes 45 weeks which is essentially a full working year.

Most EU countries residency rules are 183 days per calender year before people are liable for local taxes. 45 weeks at 4 nights per week is 180 nights per year. So, I have not paid tax in Germany, The Netherlands or Bulgaria, but in the UK instead as I spend more time there than anywhere else.

Other than Bulgaria, the taxes in the EU countries I have worked in are much higher than the UK.

Being paid in Euros has helped too as the Euro gained on the pound since 2016.

The UK has benefited too as most of the money I earn outside of the UK is spent in the UK. So, I am a net importer of wealth to the UK

Anyone else thirsty ? Time for a cuppa methinks.

I am proud to have paid this trimester's tax to France this morning (where I live) but I have worked in many countries over the last 40 years but the obvious crowing by Globetrotter is simply disgusting as she/He /It is still wobbling on about stuff that is irrelevant but has caused material harm to our children.

Well all believe Globe I'm sure. But it hasn't told us about how it spends most of it's time in St Petersburg.

I'll have a cuppa and will mull over the news that different countries have different tax rates