Can someone give me one benefit of Brexit.

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It's going to be 4 years since we withdrew our membership in European Union. Apart from the passport colour (some people might prefer) can anyone name one positive change which happened since then.

Here's a Brexit Benefit. P&O bosses were able to sack 800 UK employees and pay themselves £16 million in bonuses.

In France they weren't allowed to sack anyone because of those pesky EU employment laws.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2023/03/21/executives-behind-po-ferries-sackings-share-16m-payday/

Benefit of Brexit
both my passports are dark, dark blue
so I have to check inside to tell them apart

oh silly me, not a benefit

@HannibalHeyes re P&O

Read the article in detail and it records that due to financial difficulties, loss of French staff cannot be ruled out. P&O parent company is DP World, a UAE company.

I have relatives who have worked for an American athletic sports wear company in The Netherlands for over 10 years. They will be made redundant in April this year as their jobs are being outsourced to India as part of cost savings.

Latest unemployment rate figures I can find are:

France 7.3% at December 2023 as per Euronews

UK 4.2% at December 2023 as per ONS

74% of Leave voters now say Britain is in a worse state than it was in 2010.

They finally got something right...

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/survey-results/daily/2024/01/08/6a2ad/1

I'm sure someone will be along in a moment to tell you why you're wrong on this.

I'm waiting with baited breath...

Maybe out of office for the evening?

Is it a holiday in St Petersburg?

Remember the bad old days, when people were complaining that they had to have a doctor's appointment within 48 hours...

https://twitter.com/Imranicus/status/1601031706194345984

And more winning...

https://www.politico.eu/article/uk-brexit-not-for-eu-food-label/

@HannibalHeyes 74% of Leave voters now say Britain is in a worse state than it was in 2010.

As per the link provided. the poll was based on 2079 people. Approx. 0.003% of the UK population.

Also, I can't see in the link where it says the 2079 people all voted leave on 23 June 2016.

And more winning...

How often do you go shopping for food with the intent of sending what you bought to the EU? Probably never.

How often do you go shopping for food with the intent of sending what you bought to the EU? Probably never.

Talk about missing the point. A paradigm of Brexiteers, really.

@SerendipityJane Talk about missing the point

Not for EU labelling is a legal requirement in Northern Ireland. Not that it prevents such products from entering ROI as there is no border control.

Once in the ROI, such goods could end up anywhere in the EU.

The link provided makes the statement:

Shoppers can rest assured, however, that the labels do not denote a reduction in standards. Aside from some divergence on pesticides, British food standards so far remain largely unchanged since Brexit.

@GlobeTrotter2000 you're not claiming that destroying our environment is Brexit benefit, surely not?

@Daftasabroom you're not claiming that destroying our environment is Brexit benefit, surely not?

No. However, take a look at:

Developed Countries with 18% of World Population Responsible for 49% of Pesticide Hazard Footprint - Beyond Pesticides Daily News Blog

Key point seems to be

The researchers identify the U.S., Brazil, and Spain as the biggest exporters of the “pesticide hazard load” associated with those environmental footprints, and China, the United Kingdom, and Germany as the top three importers.

Until the likes of China and the US are onboard with environmental issues, any efforts made by smaller Countries will be negated.

Now you are moving away from the point at close to light speed.

Until the likes of China and the US are onboard with environmental issues, any efforts made by smaller Countries will be negated.

Correct me if I am wrong, but weren't the Brexiters desperate for a trade deal with the USA? It does seem as though the environment is not high on the Brexiters list of priorities.

Ah, so because other countries are destroying the planet, it's a Brexit benefit that Brexit Britain can destroy the planet as well?

Whoopee...

You have to love the tortured logic of the Brexiters.

Yep. Didn't see that one on the side of a bus...

Pesticide use and sewage pollution are just two high profile environmental impacts we are inflicting on ourselves. But they are very very localized, to within km or 10s km. When it comes to pesticides what USA and China do is of very little relevance indeed to us in the UK.

Claiming otherwise is either incredibly ignorant or deliberately disingenuous.

@Peregrina Correct me if I am wrong, but weren't the Brexiters desperate for a trade deal with the USA? It does seem as though the environment is not high on the Brexiters list of priorities.

I remember a trade deal with the US being talked about, but fears over foods standards and sale of the NHS killed it off. Also, the UK already trades with the US.

A US deal was definitely talked of by the Brexiteers.

They also told us how wonderful chlorine washed chicken and hormone fed beef is.

And many of them want a US style, insurance based healthcare system so that they can make lots of money out of the proles, they were hoping that Brexit would herald that. What a benefit that would have been (for them). Shame they couldn't put 2 and 2 together and work out that encouraging people to vote for Brexit with the lie that there would be more money for the NHS, leads to the notion that those very same people might actually care about the NHS.

Sunak is still working on it though...

@HannibalHeyes

The BBC (which some thought was more pro remain than leave) indicated that the chlorine wash itself was not harmful, but had the risk of poorer standards of hygiene elsewhere in the process. The link is:

Chlorinated chicken: How safe is it? - BBC News

NHS budget has increased in real terms from Approx. 154 Billion to 182 Billion over the period 2019/2020 to 2022/2023. That's Approx. 180 Million per week.

So, the NHS has received more money since Brexit, but not as much as was suggested even when subtracting the rebate which gave a net payment of Approx 230 Million per week.

Link is:

Health care funding - The Health Foundation

The US took the EU ban on hormone treated beef to the WTO and the WTO ruled in favour of the US. The link is

Nearly half of Australia’s cattle is treated with growth hormones. Is it safe to eat? | Beef | The Guardian

1lb of beef in Brazil costs 2.96
1lb of beef in UK costs 4.74

US chlorine washed chicken costs Approx. 20 less than UK produced chicken.

So, are the EU concerns over chlorine washed chicken and hormone treated beef justified, or is it protection of profits?

Utter garbage, and you know it. The treatment of NI by the UK government, and absolutely zero benefit for the US killed it off.

Claiming otherwise is either incredibly ignorant or deliberately disingenuous.