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Can someone give me one benefit of Brexit.

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Tulipsroses · 05/12/2023 18:54

It's going to be 4 years since we withdrew our membership in European Union. Apart from the passport colour (some people might prefer) can anyone name one positive change which happened since then.

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Talkinpeace · 01/01/2024 16:19

No worries. It was a cracking thread.
Daniel cuts to the chase regularly.
Do you follow Ciaran the Euro Carrier - he is good on the truth about port movements.

While I've been away from here I've become hooked on Heather Cox Richardson's letters
still trying to see if there is a UK equivalent
as Chris Grey's blog is quieter nowadays.

jgw1 · 01/01/2024 18:32

HannibalHeyes · 01/01/2024 13:52

Who is this guy?

Does he think he is some kind of expert? We are fed up with them and their moaning.

The Great British people know best how to enrich the gamblers who made millions from Brexit and to listen to the various trolls paid for by Putin.

Zds · 01/01/2024 19:02

The biggest advantage for me was that Brexit resulted in the UK reducing import tariffs on groceries from India. My family and I cook Indian food at home, so having cheaper Indian groceries in the UK is a huge Brexit benefit for us.

GlobeTrotter2000 · 02/01/2024 11:59

@Zonder Hahaha like any Tory manifesto promise gets acted on!

The promise made by Cameron was implemented. The UK left the EU 11pm UK time on 31 January 2020.

HannibalHeyes · 02/01/2024 12:06

New Year holiday over in St Petersburg now...

Daftasabroom · 02/01/2024 12:15

HannibalHeyes · 02/01/2024 12:06

New Year holiday over in St Petersburg now...

And Scotland!

Daftasabroom · 02/01/2024 12:16

GlobeTrotter2000 · 02/01/2024 12:03

@SerendipityJane https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/dec/30/britons-brexit-bad-uk-poll-eu-finances-nhs

The poll was based on 2,000 people. Approx. 0.004% of registered voters.

By the same token not all registered voters voted in the referendum. Does this mean the referendum doesn't count?

GlobeTrotter2000 · 02/01/2024 12:17

@Peregrina

It's a weak point because the Leavers made us believe that the EU was the fundamental source of all the problems wrong with the country.

Please provide a link for the portion underlined. I am very interested in the justification of the the wording, all the problems wrong

A vote to Leave the EU was not to sever all ties, but to allow the UK to look elsewhere outside of the EU. However, the Trade and Standards agreement between the EU an UK is worded to prevent UK from under cutting EU prices. Services, were not referenced in the agreement.

And the World events which you are using as your excuse now, weren't happening between 2016 and 2020

It is true that the COVID pandemic and the Wars, which have had global impact, were unknown in 2016. That COVID appeared globally almost the same time the UK left the EU the Wars started after COVID seemed to come under control, has side tracked the World in dealing with other more pressing issues.

GlobeTrotter2000 · 02/01/2024 12:21

@Daftasabroom By the same token not all registered voters voted in the referendum. Does this mean the referendum doesn't count?

No. Cameron's promise was that the Goverment will implement what people decided.

That some registered voters chose not to vote is their decision.

Zonder · 02/01/2024 12:26

GlobeTrotter2000 · 02/01/2024 11:59

@Zonder Hahaha like any Tory manifesto promise gets acted on!

The promise made by Cameron was implemented. The UK left the EU 11pm UK time on 31 January 2020.

Surely even you can see that's what makes it so odd? So few other ones happen.

jgw1 · 02/01/2024 12:46

@GlobeTrotter2000 has the New Year brought you any enlightenment as to the benefits of Brexit?

GlobeTrotter2000 · 02/01/2024 12:51

@Zonder Surely even you can see that's what makes it so odd? So few other ones happen.

Has there ever been a government who delivered everything listed in their manifesto?

HappiestSleeping · 02/01/2024 12:54

jgw1 · 02/01/2024 12:46

@GlobeTrotter2000 has the New Year brought you any enlightenment as to the benefits of Brexit?

I wouldn't have thought so. We are 30 odd pages in now, and still haven't had anything especially tangible presented.😂

jgw1 · 02/01/2024 12:56

HappiestSleeping · 02/01/2024 12:54

I wouldn't have thought so. We are 30 odd pages in now, and still haven't had anything especially tangible presented.😂

I live in hope.

Surely someone in St Peterburg will find something positive about their scheme?

GlobeTrotter2000 · 02/01/2024 13:03

@jgw1

@GlobeTrotter2000 has the New Year brought you any enlightenment as to the benefits of Brexit?

In addition to those listed last year, the poster Zds has indicated that Indian groceries are cheaper than before. I prefer Indian food to English food. So, that is a benefit too.

Zonder · 02/01/2024 13:03

GlobeTrotter2000 · 02/01/2024 12:51

@Zonder Surely even you can see that's what makes it so odd? So few other ones happen.

Has there ever been a government who delivered everything listed in their manifesto?

Some do at least try to do some of what is on their manifesto. This one hasn't. Unless making their friends rich and ensuring they have a good income for life was in the small print.

SerendipityJane · 02/01/2024 13:05

GlobeTrotter2000 · 02/01/2024 13:03

@jgw1

@GlobeTrotter2000 has the New Year brought you any enlightenment as to the benefits of Brexit?

In addition to those listed last year, the poster Zds has indicated that Indian groceries are cheaper than before. I prefer Indian food to English food. So, that is a benefit too.

Not an overall benefit for the UK as a whole though.

HappiestSleeping · 02/01/2024 13:11

GlobeTrotter2000 · 02/01/2024 13:03

@jgw1

@GlobeTrotter2000 has the New Year brought you any enlightenment as to the benefits of Brexit?

In addition to those listed last year, the poster Zds has indicated that Indian groceries are cheaper than before. I prefer Indian food to English food. So, that is a benefit too.

Although the OP didn't specify, I think we are looking for benefits that either benefit the country as a whole, or ones that benefit more than the odd individual. While we are all delighted that there are a few who have found some small upsude, there don't appear to be any quoted on the thread that benefit, say more than 50 people. Other than the tampon tax, and even that is shortlived as the EU are removing that tax anyway.

jgw1 · 02/01/2024 13:26

GlobeTrotter2000 · 02/01/2024 13:03

@jgw1

@GlobeTrotter2000 has the New Year brought you any enlightenment as to the benefits of Brexit?

In addition to those listed last year, the poster Zds has indicated that Indian groceries are cheaper than before. I prefer Indian food to English food. So, that is a benefit too.

I suspect that for most people that all their other groceries are more expensive is more significant.

Noted that you do not have any Brexit benefits of your own to share with us.
That being so, perhaps you could stop cluttering up the thread about Brexit benefits @GlobeTrotter2000 ?

GlobeTrotter2000 · 02/01/2024 13:55

@HappiestSleeping and @SerendipityJane

The OP question was:

Can someone give me one benefit of Brexit

That those who have listed benefits are fewer in number than those who have not does not mean it can be extrapolated to reflect the entire population of the UK. That the Labour Party are not making it part of their campaign for the upcoming general election suggests that’s it not considered to be at the top of the general public concerns.

Some of the polls referenced in this thread are based on 2,000+. Nowhere near the number of registered voters.

Examples of polls being wrong that I can remember are:

1992 GE - Conservatives had very little chance as per the polls, but scraped through.

2016 Referendum- Polls forecast a remain victory, but the outcome was to leave even though it was estimated that remain booklet sent to each household reduced the likelihood of people voting leave by 3%

2019 - revoke Brexit petition topped 6 million, but votes for the LibDem party were 3.7 million.

as per recent QT episode from Kelso in Scotland, support for independence is almost split equally. Well below what it used to be.

Kendodd · 02/01/2024 14:01

GlobeTrotter2000 · 02/01/2024 13:55

@HappiestSleeping and @SerendipityJane

The OP question was:

Can someone give me one benefit of Brexit

That those who have listed benefits are fewer in number than those who have not does not mean it can be extrapolated to reflect the entire population of the UK. That the Labour Party are not making it part of their campaign for the upcoming general election suggests that’s it not considered to be at the top of the general public concerns.

Some of the polls referenced in this thread are based on 2,000+. Nowhere near the number of registered voters.

Examples of polls being wrong that I can remember are:

1992 GE - Conservatives had very little chance as per the polls, but scraped through.

2016 Referendum- Polls forecast a remain victory, but the outcome was to leave even though it was estimated that remain booklet sent to each household reduced the likelihood of people voting leave by 3%

2019 - revoke Brexit petition topped 6 million, but votes for the LibDem party were 3.7 million.

as per recent QT episode from Kelso in Scotland, support for independence is almost split equally. Well below what it used to be.

Just to correct you on polling before the referendum. Polls did not predict Remain would win, they flip flopped regularly between Leave and Remain. This is yet another Leave lie.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_United_Kingdom_European_Union_membership_referendum

jgw1 · 02/01/2024 14:44

GlobeTrotter2000 · 02/01/2024 13:55

@HappiestSleeping and @SerendipityJane

The OP question was:

Can someone give me one benefit of Brexit

That those who have listed benefits are fewer in number than those who have not does not mean it can be extrapolated to reflect the entire population of the UK. That the Labour Party are not making it part of their campaign for the upcoming general election suggests that’s it not considered to be at the top of the general public concerns.

Some of the polls referenced in this thread are based on 2,000+. Nowhere near the number of registered voters.

Examples of polls being wrong that I can remember are:

1992 GE - Conservatives had very little chance as per the polls, but scraped through.

2016 Referendum- Polls forecast a remain victory, but the outcome was to leave even though it was estimated that remain booklet sent to each household reduced the likelihood of people voting leave by 3%

2019 - revoke Brexit petition topped 6 million, but votes for the LibDem party were 3.7 million.

as per recent QT episode from Kelso in Scotland, support for independence is almost split equally. Well below what it used to be.

@GlobeTrotter2000 There was me hoping amoung all those words you would share with us a benefit of Brexit that you had found, that has been overlooked for the rest of this thread?

Jason118 · 02/01/2024 14:45

I think that is pretty safe to say that Globe is back at work on the farm. Paid for posts are generally lacking in real substance, but the good ones overly bloat their replies in an attempt to look genuine. I know that rebuttal of the bot answers is important for the browsing congregation, but it does become wearying, which is the whole point I suppose.

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