Brexit mega thread part 11: is fucktastrophy a word?

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Part 11 of this mega thread

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Funny how those who actually fought for their country don't seem to think that Brexshit was a good thing...

To me your stance of EU bad, I want none of it, comes across as totally blind.

What Do you want from Brexit? More money for the NHS?
Curbs on immigration - that's not exactly doing well is it, with immigration from the RoW up?
Easiest trade deals in History - one where Johnson has made trade deals with Australia and New Zealand which will give the UK little material benefit but is likely to destroy our farming industry.

How many people really want to be worse off?

I have said before my now deceased MIL who was 16 when the war started and worked in various factories on war work, voted Remain.

I confess we were astounded, she read the Mail from cover to cover and hated immigrants. But she also lost much loved relatives during the War, which no doubt helped to form her opinion.

Don't ask her what she wants - it inevitably boils down to "out of the EU". She's completely unable to define any actual benefits, even fictional ones, that were always blatant lies. She's let her mask slip to show her xenophobia on previous occasions.

This is why we don't think much of her, not that "she has a difference on opinion". Flat Earthers have a "difference of opinion", but they're obviously think as pigshit...

*thick

Although what I actually typed has a certain "je ne sais pas"...

🙂

I don't remember ever being asked what I wanted before on these threads. So how you can know how I'd answer a question I've never been asked before is interesting.

I have expended much energy expounding the benefits of Brexit as I see them, including in my last couple of posts about Eurostar/Disney. Thats a concrete example of a material change that apparently has occured because of Brexit (partly anway). That you do not see such things as benefits is down to your worldview.

I can see where @LouiseCollins28 is coming from. It seems to me that it's the 1950's is where it's at, albeit with an up to date spin. Things that many people did then appeal to her world view, buying locally, being more parochial, distrustful of anyone from the next village, and a self reliance born out of the view that starvation would be better than association with anything with the word EU in them. There is merit in some of these ideas (buying local, reduce travel, smaller world view), and like many people with a similar outlook it fails to take into account the real world experiences and needs of most people. It may be aspirational to hanker for a world of less populated rolling hills, with lush local produce sustaining the indigenous population. But that ain't the world as it stands, and it's a pipe dream to get there.

I'm pretty sure we've asked every Brexshitteer what the benefits are, so the fact that you've never said anything other than "out of the EU", and something xenophobic, is a bit telling.

And even what you now claim to be a success, the stopping of the Eurostar route to EuroDisney, makes no sense. People aren't going to stop going to EuroDisney, it just means that more of them will fly, which is patently worse for the planet. It's sheer, rampant, idiocy...

They make a desert and call it a peace

People aren't going to stop going to EuroDisney, it just means that more of them will fly, which is patently worse for the planet.

Which is why it seemed odd to celebrate the ending of taking a train … even driving (which I’ve done) is more polluting than taking a train. 🤦🏻‍♀️

More Brexit consequences that shaft the people of Britain.

I didn't vote for Brexit because I knew this kind of consequence was likely to happen and I didn't want to do harm to my country and to my own people.

I don't believe most Brexit voters are ok with Brexit harming Britain either.

Most of them weren't mad extremists.

As evidenced by most of them having changed their minds now the lies are being exposed.

Rejoin here we come.

Sunlit Uplands Latest: London losing tax revenue from huge art auctions.

https://twitter.com/arthistorynews/status/1666358720501088257?t=TdA9_y2ZtvgtOsnPgZf0LA&s=19

Brexit continuing to eat into the UK art market. Both Sotheby's and Christie's now have two-part Old Master sales in Paris in June. Didn't happen before Brexit. Because it's harder to get EU consignments into London salerooms, Paris wins.

On the other hand, if we were still EU members then we'd potentially be on the hook for lots of these £££

EU states refusing to host migrants may have to pay up to €20,000 a head | European Union | The Guardian

Or, we could stick to our International humanitarian obligations and actually process them properly, and make the world, and the UK, a better place...

I suspect the UK woud have supported that bill

It probably also will proof cheaper to pay the fine than paying for Rwanda, hotels and prison barges

Didn't it close before Eurostar started using it? It was earmarked for demolition. It may not be a use that you love, but the fact it is being used will preserve a beautiful building for the future, empty buildings deteriorate.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7070724.stm

I agree that air travel is bad for the environment, I think a good answer to that problem is to join the UK to a European-wide rail network...

Yeah, the Brexshitteers don't do joined up thinking...

That’s what I was thinking. Current costs in the billions IIRC.

www.newstatesman.com/world/europe/2023/04/ireland-booms-brexit-whimpers-next-door

Or indeed, thinking.

I know TAAT are verboten, but the To hate the trend of shops giving lower prices for ‘members’ thread is a fascinating glimpse into the entire Brexiteer mindset. TL;DR is

"I want all the benefits of a club. But I don't want to be a member"

If I felt like seeing feathers in the air I would drop that in as an observation 😀

I think that might be old news.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/euro-zone-slips-into-recession-after-german-revision-2023-06-08/

https://www.politico.eu/article/eurozone-is-in-a-technical-recession/

Meanwhile, still no fabled US trade deal for the UK. Over 7 years after it was promised by Team Leave. Looks like one Obama, B wasn't far off in his advice.

I guess if it would be OK for the UK to import shit food from the US, then we would also be able to export it. So I imagine Australian farmers are lining up to offload their muck on us to be able to re-export it. What with no origin labelling to speak of.

Yeah. I well remember being told "but we could have higher standards out of the EU". Repeatedly. It was about the only thing that could, possibly, have been a benefit of leaving.

How's that working out for everyone then?