Genuine question - what does anyone like about Brexit?

[Pipsquiggle]

I have always been a committed remainer - I work in an industry that depends on seamless logisitics, particularly entering / leaving the UK. Brexit is a shit show for my sector.

Just had to pay £96.80 to UPS to release a package that I'd paid express delivery for, that should've arrived 2 days ago - I'm pissed off. The German firm has already agreed to reimburse me but it's all such a ball ache.

So I have a very bleak outlook when it comes to Brexit.

Genuinely, I would like to hear of good news stories around Brexit.
How has it made your life better?
If your pay has increased - how much by and which industry are you in?
If there has been a legal upside for you - which law and how has it helped?

I am genuinely hoping to 'reframe' my thoughts / feelings on Brexit and was hoping this board could help me

@Hoppinggreen

Now this was the type of answer I was hoping to get from this thread.

Can I ask what sort of work your DH did?

Back home in Russia.

@Pipsquiggle

"What does anyone like about Brexit".

I liked what we did for Sweden and Finland. I don't expect big changes over night.

You forgot to answer my previous question about the austerity cuts and the state of the country pre Brexit. We've been up shit creak since 2008, don't see how staying in or out of the EU would change that.

That is such a stretch of the imagination its pure fantasy. Putin wasn't in a position to invade despite his rhetoric and the EU have a mutual defence pact anyway.

@countrygirl99 so why did the UK, Sweden and Finland make a deal then?

And I have family in Finland so not out of the loop with what goes on there.

Because they want to do the trade we could before Brexit. I no longer send presents to family in Finland, too much hassle and cost. I buy on line from sites in the EU for direct delivery.

@countrygirl99 eh? What's that got to do with their agreement to protect each other?

It was a direct result of Russia invading Ukraine.

I’d like to know what actions the UK took that amounted to a “lifeline” to Finland and Norway and prevented Russia invading them. Can you explain?

If we hadn't left the EU we would already have been in that agreement. They already had 26 other EU countries pledged to mutual defence abd prior to Brexit we were the 27th. After the Ukraine invasion we were just jumping up and down on the sidelines asking to join back in what we voted to leave. So you can't claim it as a benefit of Brexit because without Brexit we were already there.

Plus the US had already pledged support which was a lot more important than the UK. By the way, Finland can call up more soldiers on their own than the UK can as our forces have been so run down.

It’s awful, I cannot think of anything that is beneficial.
I hope that we might go back in, at some point, as soon as we can, which is most likely years away.

@PoseyFlump

That was the strapline. In my OP I outlined how Brexit had made my working life so much harder and asked specifically if anyone had any examples of how Brexit has improved their lives.

You are going on about 2018 (Tory austerity for God knows how many years caused many issues) , Sweden /Finland and immigration yet you have failed to give an actual example of how any these points have made your life better.

TBH I was expecting lots of posts like:
'I work in law specialising in export - my business is booming'
'My DH is a builder his pay has increased, we make 20% more than in 2019 and we're booked up until 2025.'

Essentially, pockets of people with specific skills doing very well

This is not about why you did or did not vote for Brexit but HOW it is positively impacting you now.

We have been in a recession since 2008. Real wages have only just returned to those levels. The Brexit vote was in 2016. This reminds me how the tories would blame labour for the 'mess' they left years and years later. Brexit wasn't going to solve a recession.

Except the vote and date to begin exit were somewhat different, weren't they?

I voted remain but was always of the view that once leave won then brexit must happen and I was against all the undemocratic parliamentary shenigans to try and reverse it and I thought labours 2019 position was a betrayal of their voters.
for us brexit has almost doubled my dh daily pay as he has less competition. He has work coming out of his ears and can charge more. For me personally it has made no difference really.
plentiful jobs and better pay for some is a positive for individuals although I understand the general effects on wage increases etc.
i think improved pay and conditions and plentiful work for workers is actually one positive of Brexit and you rarely hear this pov. It’s always represented as a negative from the pov of the business owner who can’t get staff e.g wolfson and Next and not a positive from the staff that are in demand and have multiple offers of employment and can ask and probably get a higher hourly rate. There are two sides to that dynamic and we will only seem to care about one side.

Recession is 2 successive quarters of negative growth. That has not been continuous since 2008. We have had prolonged periods of growth nut they have been very low levels of growth. That is not Recession.

@PoseyFlump

It's OK to say that Brexit hasn't impacted on your life at all if you can't think of a positive example

@sashagabadon that's good to hear

What job /sector is your DH in?

Building

No we haven't - a recession is two successive quarters of reduction in GDP.

@Pipsquiggle I never said I voted to leave.

And regardless of your question, when people are calling leavers racist I think posters have the right to defend them.

I have elderly relatives who voted leave. They told me they thought they were sacrificing their last years on this planet knowing that life would be tough in the immediate future for them but for the hope their grandchildren's lives would be better long term. These people voted not to join in the original vote. They were horrified to be called racists and for people to say they didn't understand the consequences. They did. They never thought there would be benefits immediately. Some of these people remember businesses closing because of decisions and rules made by the EU. They've lived through all of it and it's disrespectful to say they were selfish racists when they are the exact opposite.

Is that enough for you? What a bizarre concept

These people voted not to join in the original vote.

No they didn't, because there was no such referendum.

They might have voted to not stay in the EEC in 1975 referendum.