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Brexit

Genuine question - what does anyone like about Brexit?

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Pipsquiggle · 11/11/2022 18:32

I have always been a committed remainer - I work in an industry that depends on seamless logisitics, particularly entering / leaving the UK. Brexit is a shit show for my sector.

Just had to pay £96.80 to UPS to release a package that I'd paid express delivery for, that should've arrived 2 days ago - I'm pissed off. The German firm has already agreed to reimburse me but it's all such a ball ache.

So I have a very bleak outlook when it comes to Brexit.

Genuinely, I would like to hear of good news stories around Brexit.
How has it made your life better?
If your pay has increased - how much by and which industry are you in?
If there has been a legal upside for you - which law and how has it helped?

I am genuinely hoping to 'reframe' my thoughts / feelings on Brexit and was hoping this board could help me

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Nightlystroll · 11/11/2022 23:01

Our university has replaced eu students with overseas students from outside the eu. It's generated loads more money. That's been good for the international dept wages, good for university students and good for the city. 🙂

Dollydea · 11/11/2022 23:01

To get the benefit of Brexit then you needed to have lived in a lower working class town that was overrun by a certain countries lower class citizens.

My 83 year old grandmother was mugged twice within 4 months of this certain country joining the EU.
My 10 year old daughter was beaten up walking home from school (literally across the road) by a group of children who'd just joined her school, again.... from this certain country.

We moved out of that town and there's no benefit from Brexit for us here, but had we been forced to stay put in our home town then the EU free movement would've completely destroyed us.

PoseyFlump · 11/11/2022 23:06

Did the EU free movement of people also include those with a criminal record? I feel like there was a murder of a young girl by a canal by a killer from the EU. Not sure. Would have to google.

Kendodd · 11/11/2022 23:12

No benefit (only negatives) for me.
I'm sure Putin was delighted by it though, it would be a dream come true for him if he could pick apart the whole EU.

PoseyFlump · 11/11/2022 23:18

Except it hasn't worked in Putin's favour. Ie UK's support for Sweden and Finland.

N4ish · 11/11/2022 23:32

Only benefit is it’s made me really, really appreciate my EU citizenship and passport. Also have a new fondness and respect for the EU flag which I’d pretty much ignored before.

Made me proud today to see Ukrainians in Kherson flying the EU flag alongside their own flag as the city was liberated. They know Putin fears a united EU and that’s why he helped to fund the Brexit campaign.

jgw1 · 12/11/2022 06:10

Twillow · 11/11/2022 22:33

What actually is Sovereignty? And what does it give us that we didn't have before?

It is what we have in England now that we have left the EU which means that your laws are now made by an unelected Prime Minister with no mandate but is definetely now what Scotland would have if it were independent.

CantSleepCountingSheep · 12/11/2022 06:17

AutumnAgain · 11/11/2022 18:49

it’s destroyed the Tory party - surely that’s good for something.

👍👍👍

CantSleepCountingSheep · 12/11/2022 06:18

BoredWithLife · 11/11/2022 19:04

If you really want just a single benefit, we were able to abolish tampon tax - but I suspect you don't just want a single benefit and will now argue why that isn't enough to justify it etc etc...

Do you think that's enough?

CantSleepCountingSheep · 12/11/2022 06:20

oldbrownjug · 11/11/2022 19:14

I'm guessing OP didn't start the thread to discuss the benefits of Brexit.

Still waiting to hear of any, beyond losing the tampon tax......?

CantSleepCountingSheep · 12/11/2022 06:23

Lonelycrab · 11/11/2022 20:24

If there is to be any benefit of Brexit, did anyone really expect it to manifest overnight?

Well, 50 years perhaps, apparently.

But the way you frame that question makes me think… what are you expecting to “manifest” exactly? Poof- there comes some unicorn or something?

The only thing you’ll manifest from isolation is basically being poorer. As we’re all finding out.

We brexited in Jan 2020!
3 years is hardly overnight!!

Monkeyrules · 12/11/2022 06:24

The people that govern us work in their own interests regardless of whether we are in the EU or not. I suppose the only benefit is UK politicians can't blame their failed policies on the EU and we can see them for what they are.

Lairig · 12/11/2022 06:30

I was a Remainder, however..
Benefits of Brexit include reducing economic migrants from the EU driving down wages in the UK. This is part of why inflation is rampant here but I've hated listening to academics and media on both left and right claiming for years that wage suppression wasn't happening, when plainly it was. Also pre Brexit immigration was giving net population growth of a medium size city every year to Britain; this was/is stupid. Finally the Common Agricultural Policy; soon hopefully I won't have to hear another farmer on the radio explaining that the CAP is needed for cheap food. I already pay for my shopping thanks, CAP is tax I worked for.

countrygirl99 · 12/11/2022 06:30

CantSleepCountingSheep · 12/11/2022 06:23

We brexited in Jan 2020!
3 years is hardly overnight!!

People will still be arguing it's too soon in 2030.

Lairig · 12/11/2022 06:32

Remainer of course, sorry

BrokeAsABone · 12/11/2022 06:34

As someone in the North of Ireland, it has made a United Ireland almost inevitable, much quicker than we ever dared to hope. So that's one positive.

Monkeyrules · 12/11/2022 06:41

The government can spend taxpayers money all by themselves without sending it to the European Union and then receiving it back to the UK in the form of grants. I don't know whether the amount we received matched the amount we gave but I suspect we were a net contributor.

Pipsquiggle · 12/11/2022 06:54

Dollydea · 11/11/2022 23:01

To get the benefit of Brexit then you needed to have lived in a lower working class town that was overrun by a certain countries lower class citizens.

My 83 year old grandmother was mugged twice within 4 months of this certain country joining the EU.
My 10 year old daughter was beaten up walking home from school (literally across the road) by a group of children who'd just joined her school, again.... from this certain country.

We moved out of that town and there's no benefit from Brexit for us here, but had we been forced to stay put in our home town then the EU free movement would've completely destroyed us.

@Dollydea

I am very sorry you went through that. It sounds horrendous. Glad you are out of that situation now.

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Pipsquiggle · 12/11/2022 06:57

Lairig · 12/11/2022 06:30

I was a Remainder, however..
Benefits of Brexit include reducing economic migrants from the EU driving down wages in the UK. This is part of why inflation is rampant here but I've hated listening to academics and media on both left and right claiming for years that wage suppression wasn't happening, when plainly it was. Also pre Brexit immigration was giving net population growth of a medium size city every year to Britain; this was/is stupid. Finally the Common Agricultural Policy; soon hopefully I won't have to hear another farmer on the radio explaining that the CAP is needed for cheap food. I already pay for my shopping thanks, CAP is tax I worked for.

@Lairig

I was hoping that someone would come on here and say "My wages have increased by x% due to Brexit, I work in this......... sector

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PortiasBiscuit · 12/11/2022 06:58

I believe it has expanded student exchange programs to countries outside the EU, particularly for art students.

Pipsquiggle · 12/11/2022 07:01

Nightlystroll · 11/11/2022 23:01

Our university has replaced eu students with overseas students from outside the eu. It's generated loads more money. That's been good for the international dept wages, good for university students and good for the city. 🙂

@Nightlystroll
That's good to hear. I had thought UK universities might be less appealing to foreign students

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sorrynotathome · 12/11/2022 07:03

Trolltrotters · 11/11/2022 20:18

Ummmm, some medicines that were previously prescription only (I think POP and a rather good antihistamine) are now over the counter.

Just that. That's all I can think of. Makes it all worth while right!?

That has absolutely nothing to do with Brexit - it’s a process that’s been going on for many years when certain drugs have been shown to be safe to sell over the counter. Nothing to do with EU as it’s managed by MHRA. I’d be interested to know why you think it’s a product of Brexit?

Greytea · 12/11/2022 07:04

Immigration has increased, just not from EU countries, but from the rest of the world. This has meant that my frequent hospital visits and stays actually have staff - I’ve never seen a “British” nurse, doctor, consultant or surgeon. Also, some attitudes from staff from abroad have been somewhat bracing, to put it politely, to say the least. That has opened my mind.

Avrenim · 12/11/2022 07:08

Well, knowing if someone is in favour of it has definitely helped purge facebook and the Christmas greetings list...though I'm beyond cross that the Irish ancestor is too far back for me to claim that nationality....

Bumblenums · 12/11/2022 07:09

I'm with you op- I've worked in ops and logistics for the past 5 years and I cant see the benefits for british companies importing and exporting- all it's done is cost thousands in extra time, ppwk and red tape. It's just been dreadful.