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Genuine question - what does anyone like about Brexit?

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Pipsquiggle · 11/11/2022 18:32

I have always been a committed remainer - I work in an industry that depends on seamless logisitics, particularly entering / leaving the UK. Brexit is a shit show for my sector.

Just had to pay £96.80 to UPS to release a package that I'd paid express delivery for, that should've arrived 2 days ago - I'm pissed off. The German firm has already agreed to reimburse me but it's all such a ball ache.

So I have a very bleak outlook when it comes to Brexit.

Genuinely, I would like to hear of good news stories around Brexit.
How has it made your life better?
If your pay has increased - how much by and which industry are you in?
If there has been a legal upside for you - which law and how has it helped?

I am genuinely hoping to 'reframe' my thoughts / feelings on Brexit and was hoping this board could help me

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Ladyintangerine · 03/12/2022 17:26

@jgw1 That might be why in my original post on the subject I used the word some.

OK.
So are you using 'feel' as in 'emotion' or 'feel' as in 'grope' ?

jgw1 · 03/12/2022 17:34

Ladyintangerine · 03/12/2022 17:26

@jgw1 That might be why in my original post on the subject I used the word some.

OK.
So are you using 'feel' as in 'emotion' or 'feel' as in 'grope' ?

No Tory MP would grope anyone, they are all fine upstanding members of society.

Ladyintangerine · 03/12/2022 17:44

@jgw1
No Tory MP would grope anyone, they are all fine upstanding members of society.

😂

www.entertainmentdaily.co.uk/news/after-the-matt-hancock-kissing-scandal-8-other-mps-caught-behaving-badly/

jgw1 · 03/12/2022 17:52

Ladyintangerine · 03/12/2022 17:44

@jgw1
No Tory MP would grope anyone, they are all fine upstanding members of society.

😂

www.entertainmentdaily.co.uk/news/after-the-matt-hancock-kissing-scandal-8-other-mps-caught-behaving-badly/

Those are historic. The modern Tory man is a very different creature.

Kendodd · 03/12/2022 19:48

Natsku · 03/12/2022 15:14

Customs union I reckon

Interesting interview with David Yelland (former editor of the Sun) on it, he thinks SM. FOM is still a massive issue for many people though, like the poster above. I think as time goes on stripping our young people of their rights as EU citizens to free movement will become move of a vote loser, than keeping jonny foreigner out would be a vote winner.

MenaiMna · 03/12/2022 20:14

AutumnAgain · 11/11/2022 18:49

it’s destroyed the Tory party - surely that’s good for something.

Haha, hadn't realised that, finally a positive!

Alexandra2001 · 03/12/2022 20:52

So who is now doing the work these migrant workers did?

Because the visa schemes have been opened up to 10s of '000s because locals can't or won't do it..... and they are not coming to the UK.

You came up with one story from Boston of an illegal Still, thats it... there will always be the idiots, Callington and Liskeard on a weekend have more than their fair share... and all locals, most on drugs.. police overwhelmed after 20k cops chopped and stations closed.

The east europeans who worked down here got on with what they did quietly and professionally, many of their partners worked in social care.... now it takes 6 weeks to get a care package and farmers are moaning that they can't get workers....

Tell me again what we won?

SerendipityJane · 03/12/2022 20:53

FOM is still a massive issue for many people though

Or they think it is, which isn't quite the same. I know a few people who "thought" FOM was important to them "because of all the brown people".

Much like Grant Shapps understanding of wind turbines.

The bottom line is that Brexit allowed racism to be cloaked in a respectable veneer of economic discussion. Even if that added 2% to the majority as we can see it was enough.

Forever42 · 03/12/2022 21:29

Immigration has gone up since Brexit so I'm not sure thay the people who didn't like freedom of movement will be happy anyway.

jgw1 · 03/12/2022 21:37

Forever42 · 03/12/2022 21:29

Immigration has gone up since Brexit so I'm not sure thay the people who didn't like freedom of movement will be happy anyway.

That's because it is the wrong kind of Brexit.
Boris was just about to get Brexit done, when a conspiracy of the left wing media such as the Sun and the BBC and the establishment forced him to resign over a piece of cake.

ErrolTheDragon · 03/12/2022 21:50

The only good thing about brexit is that it rendered bloody Farage and UKIP obsolete. Cause this dreadful, destructive mess and then can't be held accountable for it, but at least we don't have that arsehole gurning at us all the time now.
Small silver lining, massive cloud.

CaronPoivre · 03/12/2022 21:53

jgw1 · 03/12/2022 21:37

That's because it is the wrong kind of Brexit.
Boris was just about to get Brexit done, when a conspiracy of the left wing media such as the Sun and the BBC and the establishment forced him to resign over a piece of cake.

Your tongue is in your cheek, isn’t it?

jgw1 · 03/12/2022 21:59

CaronPoivre · 03/12/2022 21:53

Your tongue is in your cheek, isn’t it?

No, it is quite clear, if only Boris had been allowed to get on with a proper Brexit without remoaners like the Telegraph and the Evening Standard going on about cakes, then we would not be in the mess we are now.

Forever42 · 03/12/2022 22:05

The only good thing about brexit is that it rendered bloody Farage and UKIP obsolete.

The only thing I've enjoyed about Brexit at all was a day or two after the referendum when Nigel Farage was being interviewed and the interviewer asked "So what is the point of Nigel Farage now?". He really didn't seem to have an answer for that. Shame he'd already done so much damage.

Kendodd · 03/12/2022 23:04

Forever42 · 03/12/2022 21:29

Immigration has gone up since Brexit so I'm not sure thay the people who didn't like freedom of movement will be happy anyway.

Good, I'm glad.
I know many red faced, racist Leave voters apoplectic about this. Their anger about the increased immigration delights me.

Timezones · 03/12/2022 23:14

BoredWithLife · 11/11/2022 19:04

If you really want just a single benefit, we were able to abolish tampon tax - but I suspect you don't just want a single benefit and will now argue why that isn't enough to justify it etc etc...

No, that was possible through the EU too. I think they implemented it slightly later.

Timezones · 03/12/2022 23:18

The only positive I've noticed is the availability of minimum wage jobs. It's become very easy for teenagers to pick up part time unskilled work, because all the EU citizens who used to do it have left. However, the big employer near us which was previously desperate for local people to work for it is now no longer interested because they are employing Ukrainian refugees.

CaronPoivre · 03/12/2022 23:27

jgw1 · 03/12/2022 21:59

No, it is quite clear, if only Boris had been allowed to get on with a proper Brexit without remoaners like the Telegraph and the Evening Standard going on about cakes, then we would not be in the mess we are now.

Bless. Rarely am I lost for words.
The Torygraph left wing? So funny.
Cake? You mean partying illegally whilst people died alone, surely?

The mess is because people like you think there is a ‘proper’ Brexit. You know Johnson was an avid remainer. He once said he was “a bit of a fan” of Brussels, and he famously wrote an unpublished column declaring his support for the remain campaign. Until it suited him personally, that is.

prettybird · 03/12/2022 23:55

@CaronPoivre - you do know that @jgw1 writes satirical posts to show up the stupidity of the Leave point of view Wink

CaronPoivre · 03/12/2022 23:59

prettybird · 03/12/2022 23:55

@CaronPoivre - you do know that @jgw1 writes satirical posts to show up the stupidity of the Leave point of view Wink

Well I asked and got a ‘No’. I’m delighted to hear it is so!

Hawkins001 · 04/12/2022 00:01

Personally, I'm in favour of a one world government.

jgw1 · 04/12/2022 06:16

Hawkins001 · 04/12/2022 00:01

Personally, I'm in favour of a one world government.

What an excellent idea, Boris can be president for life and Govey, Govey, Govey Prime Minister.

Ladyintangerine · 04/12/2022 07:01

@Alexandra2001
It may have been 'just one illegal still' but the effects of it's produce were wide-ranging in the area. It was being sold in shops in the town and was a danger to public health.

www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/jul/14/boston-industrial-estate-explosion-alcohol

In addition, it was the only 'still' that was found because it blew up. It begs the question as to how many others were operating undiscovered, and marketing their poisonous brew to the unsuspecting public ?

Please, stop trying to minimise something you know nothing about. I lived in the area, you didn't.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/11/gangsters-on-our-doorstep

jgw1 · 04/12/2022 07:55

Ladyintangerine · 04/12/2022 07:01

@Alexandra2001
It may have been 'just one illegal still' but the effects of it's produce were wide-ranging in the area. It was being sold in shops in the town and was a danger to public health.

www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/jul/14/boston-industrial-estate-explosion-alcohol

In addition, it was the only 'still' that was found because it blew up. It begs the question as to how many others were operating undiscovered, and marketing their poisonous brew to the unsuspecting public ?

Please, stop trying to minimise something you know nothing about. I lived in the area, you didn't.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/may/11/gangsters-on-our-doorstep

Its a good job that the government at the time was cutting essential public services that would have been the services that would have been able to address the situation that you describe.

Alexandra2001 · 04/12/2022 08:17

@Ladyintangerine Everything you mention is down to lack of law enforcement, not FOM or even EU membership..... illegal Vodka sold in shops? FFS don't you have trading standards in your area?

Illegal stills? no police up there???

I assume you pay council tax? so why weren't you demanding the council and police do their jobs? ah i see, its the UK government that has run down these vital public services.... nothing to do with the EU is it?

oh and i used to live just outside Hull in the 2000s.... not Boston but a lot closer than sunny Cornwall.

Minimise... thats exactly what you are doing by failing to accept the loss of EU workers in healthcare, agri food production and hospitality.... you also minimise my lived experience that English men are more than capable of smashing up town centres and drug dealing.... again, lack of UK law enforcement and deterrent.

Like all brexitiers i ve met... blame the EU for UK caused problems.... and now they can't the EU, blame people voted to remain or the French, its pathetic.