to still be angry about Brexit?

[mrsmootoo]

I've mentioned this before and got shot down - 'move on', 'we won, you lost', 'red wall was justified', 'democracy' (although as Brexiter David Davis said, democracies can change their minds) etc etc. Anyway, if anything I am even more angry now than in 2016! Seeing queues at Dover/airports etc (I know not only down to Brexit, but it makes it worse) just reinforced it. I'm not going to rehash all the reasons here, but am just interested in whether other people are still as furious as I am. (And I do know it's not doing my stress levels any good!)

I never understand why people brag about not caring about politics, but suffice it to say that for the rest of us who do it's not something you can just switch off.

In America politics now means women in some states can't get abortions, in the UK businesses have gone down the pan because of post-brexit exports cratering, etc etc.

Maybe ignoring bad things does make you happy... until you're the one affected.

I guess some, happily sat in the UK, behind what some perceive as a newly strengthened border are probably finding it easy to be relaxed about it all, at least for now.

If OTOH you are Brit, (possibly still paying UK taxes) but long term resident in the EU you probably feel differently about things, since just about everyday you are still trying to mitigate the consequences of that vote.

You start to dread the post arriving, because it may well deliver be another administrative or financial fastball from the UK.

Ultimately it's kind of hard to sum our family feelings up in any polite form, other than one of being largely abandoned by HMG ( that that was on the cards was obvious post TMs Lancaster House speech) and a keen desire to inflict some of the stress and administrative load we have had to endure on some of the most vocal "easiest thing in the world" Brexiters ......

A pathetic act of national self-harm. That will continue to harm. And those who were its biggest champions now get irritated whenever it's mentioned.

I voted for it but had I known about covid and the Ukraine war I wouldn’t have

I didn't want Brexit and of course I can see it was a terrible idea. I work in Supply Chain and can see the awful issues caused by it. However, I don't want to waste my emotions on spending my life feeling angry about something that I cannot change.

I don't think I'll ever not be angry. It's not like I spend every day raging about it, but I do feel resentful when I think how much lower me and my children standard of living is, relative to if it hadn't happened. My opinion of everyone I know who voted that way is also permanently damaged.

So what should have happened? How could older voters’ votes have less weight than younger voters? Maybe two older voters’ votes count the same as a younger voter’s vote?
How old would voters have to be before their votes has ‘less weight’ than younger voters?
Danoo, please let me know how this would work - I am genuinely interested.

I’m not over it either OP. It boils my blood to think my children don’t have the same rights we did to just go and live in France just like that, for example - no hassles, no visas. All those eejits who don’t want to go anywhere on holiday & probably never leave their crap home town - fine! Just don’t fuck it up for the rest of us. I’m also just embarrassed to live in such a narrow, idiotic nation who actually voted to be poorer & less efficient, with a big side helping of xenophobia. I hate it.

To stop talking about brexit would be to stop talking about british politics, which isstill completely defined by brexit. Sunak and Truss are currently arguing over who's more of a remainer, and whoever wins will spend their whole (hopefully short-lived) tenure playing only to the Leave crowd.

I've no idea which way you voted, but this is what so many Leavers don't get - they didn't vote for a one-off event that can be shrugged off and forgotten. They voted for a mountain of bullshit that will go on for a generation.

I will remain ashamed of being part of the country that decided upon the greatest act of economic self-harm probably possible to do.

Voted to remain, and don't give it a second thought. If anything, my DB now earns a decent wage as he is no longer undercut by Europeans. He also voted to remain, but would certainly not vote to rejoin!

Ok, so you're a troll. No serious person would sincerly say "I'm fine so why is everyone complaining?"

Fair's fair, I believed you for a couple of posts.

Assuming your post is serious.

I am really keen to understand why you actively want the HRA to axed. Please come back and elaborate.

I'm very happy. My wage is significantly higher than pre-Brexit as I am not competing with as many other people for the job I do. I am sorry that your latte costs 50p more and that you might have to hire an English au-pair and pay her a bit more, such is life.

Blimey! I know this was view was expressed at the time of heightened emotions, but in the cold light of day, after years of reflection, do you still think this?

I’m with you op. I don’t feel high level anger day to day of course. But I’ll never get over the idiocy involved in allowing Brexit to happen.Nor the door it opened for the despicable individuals who now lead our country.

It was an advisory, non binding referendum which we have been bound to by a majority so marginal it wouldn’t pass a Union ballot.

Perhaps engage with them instead of name-calling then.

Why not go the whole hog and disenfranchise women as you’d like to take us back to the 19th Century.

@JosephineGH I find saying only people who own property absolutely insulting! Many many people rent

Brexit is the greatest thing that has ever happened to this country.

Don't believe me?

Look who backed it and drove it forward.... Putin, Johnson, Farage and Trump all great men with reputations for honesty and self sacrifice.

The UK is truly blessed to have such an intelligent and enlightened electorate.

They voted for a mountain of bullshit that will go on for a generation

More than a generation. I’m past being furious about it, I’m just depressed and resigned. It’s truly shocking that less than a third of the population was able to vote for completely fucking our country over.