Brexit mega thread part 8: platinum jubilee edition

[ChiswickFlo]

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Not Brexshit related, but Tory related.

The Lancet finds that NHS privatisation caused more deaths & increased mortality.

Ergo, the Tories want more of it...

HC was spot on with deplorables, as the current Congressional Jan 6th hearings show all too well.

bad economic news today

[]www.ft.com/content/a31b4b8e-f9fc-4f1e-84c1-3632f194d05a]]

UK trade performance falls to worst level on record in first quarter

I might have mentioned that earlier...

"knuckle dragging" hee hee yep I'll add that one to the list too then. Trust me when I say I'm not offended. Whether you have any basic level of respect for people?...is your concern, not mine.

I don't expect to get an easy ride for anything. As I've said many times on these threads "ask me what you like". I'll now add to that "call me what you like" I literally don't care. I am however entitled to respond when people throw insults at me and will continue to respond when I feel it's the right thing.

Once more, if you want to get back to the relationship with the EU that you want Britain to have, I'm the person you need to convince to change her mind. If you think that is best acheived by calling me "dregs"; "knuckle dragging" etc, etc, then I've indicated how I react to that approach. I suggest you try another.

Once more, if you want to get back to the relationship with the EU that you want Britain to have, I'm the person you need to convince to change her mind.

You still haven't twigged have you ? The UKs membership of the EU, or not, will be decided regardless of what you think. And you made it that way. As the farmers, fisherfolk have already discovered.

Believe you me, when Boris realises that re-entering the single market and customs union can save his skin, it'll happen. Unless he's promised you something different.

And if blithely downplaying the Prime Minister of the UK getting noshed off on the mother of parliaments by his mistress while his wife was ill with cancer is what the UK has become then I can only apologize for calling Brexiteers knuckle draggers. Fucking despicable hypocrites is far more accurate.

I'm the person you need to convince to change her mind.

But you've repeatedly said that nothing will change your mind that Brexit is amaaaaaaaaazing.

But we don't need to change your mind at all, @LouiseCollins28 . We just have to sit tight, watch the country go to shit and watch the demographics do their work. Then at some point the democratic pendulum will swing us back into the EU and there will be nothing you can do about it.

www.bigissue.com/news/social-justice/uk-faces-worst-food-crisis-long-time/

Anna Taylor, CEO of the Food Foundation, told the UK Trade and Business Commission on Thursday that the number of people going hungry is the highest it has ever been since the charity started recording food insecurity 10 years ago

Great time to start a trade war.

@DuncinToffee but that is a Brexit Benefit because it will reduce the population of the UK! What a huge win!

Add to that Covid, monkey pox, polio, polluted waterways, pesticides, never mind buying less shit

I read this last night truly shocking.

I don't remember ever saying that tbh. I'd say my mind is changeable. I think it's pretty unlikely any party seeking my vote would opt to act the way I'd need them to to consider doing it but I don't remember saying nothing would change my mind before.

Boris Johnson has a hairdresser?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jul/01/scandal-timeline-tory-sleaze-boris-johnson

When you read the timeline in all its hideous 'glory' - makes me want to vomit and cry in despair over what this country & Parliament have become - under fuckwits leadership <angry and grumpy>

I think the evidence is self-evident that she doesn't do much hairdressing

It's a type. He doesn't have a hairdresser, he has a hairdryer. Shame he has no idea how to use it.

Not satire.

and again, not satire.

Mark Austin: Can we ask China to adhere to international agreements, when the government is threatening to breach an IA?

Lord Patten: "If & when we do breach international agreements, it will come back & hit us like a boomerang."

twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1543122625551077376?t=qGM_uKzW1IFTgIAkx1wdBw&s=19

Anyway, it's not China we need to worry about. I'd be much more worried that our allies suddenly become a lot less trusting of us. Already questions are being asked in NATO about "these Brits ? Are they reliable ?".

We know these questions are being asked because we know Putin has invested in information warfare and a ready made media machine to punt them.

Nothing dramatic. Nothing even big. Just that steady corrosive drip, drip, drip that can eventually wear down granite.

A Chinese colleague recently commented that only the Chinese really know what is happening in China. Well Chinese speaking people anyway. But by the same token, the whole world knows what is happening in the US and UK. Thanks to our (as she put it) "rather aggressive language". Just for contrast she reminded me that when we screen share, I can't read hers (the internet in Chinese is rather elegant) but she can read mine. Including the news popup. The asymmetry of information is a fascinating element of history.

I am still wondering who LouiseCollins thinks the UK could jettison.

I read recently that of the things Rees-Mogg wanted to jettison was Portable Appliance Testing, commonly known as PAT Testing. This apparently was oversees by the Institute of Electrical Engineers, and was never part of the remit of the EU. Not to mention the stupidity of jettisoning health and safety measures.

R-M ought to visit some of those countries where there is no body to oversee such sort of regulations, and see the absolute horrors which occur with electrical equipment. Idiot.

And meanwhile Keir Starmer is still appeasing the Labour Party's Brexit knuckleheads. There's no hope, is there?

www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2022/jul/04/keir-starmer-labour-brexit-policy-boris-johnson-chris-pincher-uk-politics-live

R-M ought to visit some of those countries where there is no body to oversee such sort of regulations, and see the absolute horrors which occur with electrical equipment. Idiot.

And ? He'd only return telling you that it doesn't matter if it happens to poor brown people.

Don't waste time with the JRMs and Louises of this world, they've had their 15 minutes. Much better off speaking to those that will come after.