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Brexit mega thread 7 : global Britain is looking rather insignificant.....

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ChiswickFlo · 28/03/2022 19:30

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ChiswickFlo · 18/05/2022 16:54

Michael fabricant MP folks

news.sky.com/story/tory-mp-accused-of-making-light-of-rape-allegations-against-commons-colleague-12615957

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pointythings · 18/05/2022 17:33

He's really got a thing for rapists, hasn't he?

ChiswickFlo · 18/05/2022 17:34

Seems so...

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FrankieStein403 · 19/05/2022 11:10

So the met have finished with some more fines.
Conveniently? The day after PMQ giving pfeffel maximum time to bluff it out before next weds - obviously he will have received at least one fine in this lot - the met basically dropping their bomb and running. Sue gray next week?

DuncinToffee · 19/05/2022 11:49

U-turn on windfall tax incoming?

DuncinToffee · 19/05/2022 15:38

Oh dear

In answer to my question #NadineDorries said she thought 96% of the 56,293 respondents in her public consultation supported privatisation. She was wrong. The opposite is the case - as I explained to her. 96% of those her department surveyed opposed privatisation.

twitter.com/MrJohnNicolson/status/1527230850558984192?t=2_I3ycmaDnmSi2Wi1SBq8A&s=19

mathanxiety · 19/05/2022 16:39

Johnson is clearly determined to ignore the fact that 56% of NI voters, including Unionists of various shades, voter to Remain in the EU.

Jason118 · 19/05/2022 16:42

"Johnson is clearly determined to ignore the fact that 56% of NI voters, including Unionists of various shades, voter to Remain in the EU."

You had me at word eight.

mathanxiety · 19/05/2022 16:43

Parody Boris
@Parody_PM
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It’s easy for people to say that we should have seen these Brexit problems coming, but nobody could have predicted that the EU would actually implement the deal we negotiated, agreed and signed.

Parody Boris nails it yet again.

DuncinToffee · 20/05/2022 09:04

Rishi Sunak enters the Sunday Times rich list 2022

HannibalHeyes · 20/05/2022 09:40

Mhairi Black not holding back here.

HannibalHeyes · 20/05/2022 22:22

And James o'Brien having a go at the likes of Claviknownothing...

HannibalHeyes · 20/05/2022 22:56

Also from twitter, rather sums up my feelings...

Andrew Parnall - Brexit can't/won't work, ever!
@dontbrexitfixit
Dear Leavelings

Another week over, another week of fuck all to show for your absolute abhorrent bastard of a fucking xenophobic, bigoted fuelled Brexit abomination. You really do boil my piss you shit snorting, twatknacking fucks.

HannibalHeyes · 20/05/2022 23:16

I daresay Clav will get me banned again now...

FrankieStein403 · 21/05/2022 09:00

brexit loses uk science leadership roles
Nothing to see here, only science.

LouiseCollins28 · 21/05/2022 09:20

That tweet from Andrew Parnall is absolutely glorious as are many others I've seen so far in his timeline. Thanks so much for bringing his venomous little stream to my attention. Makes me so happy reading them.

HannibalHeyes · 21/05/2022 11:48

Well, that about sums up your empathy Louise...

Alexandra2001 · 21/05/2022 12:00

LouiseCollins28 · 21/05/2022 09:20

That tweet from Andrew Parnall is absolutely glorious as are many others I've seen so far in his timeline. Thanks so much for bringing his venomous little stream to my attention. Makes me so happy reading them.

Parnall may express himself in a way you wouldn't but the on the facts, where is he wrong?

Brexit has caused staff to leave the NHS, farming, food production and other sectors, reduced trade and at a time we need all we can get, damaged science, one of our success stories over the last decades, knocked 4% off GDP, wrecked relations with EU, like it or not, the worlds richest trading bloc....and has caused friction in NI.
Reduced opportunities to live, study and love in Europe, something many Brexitiers managed to do before denying others the same op's.

Just don't see any up sides.... happy for you to list them, if i'm looking in the wrong places?

LouiseCollins28 · 21/05/2022 12:52

Alexandra2001 · 21/05/2022 12:00

Parnall may express himself in a way you wouldn't but the on the facts, where is he wrong?

Brexit has caused staff to leave the NHS, farming, food production and other sectors, reduced trade and at a time we need all we can get, damaged science, one of our success stories over the last decades, knocked 4% off GDP, wrecked relations with EU, like it or not, the worlds richest trading bloc....and has caused friction in NI.
Reduced opportunities to live, study and love in Europe, something many Brexitiers managed to do before denying others the same op's.

Just don't see any up sides.... happy for you to list them, if i'm looking in the wrong places?

There are no upsides that I can list that anyone on here is interested in. I've done it so many times before and the response is always the same dismissive replies.

People either think national self determination is important or they don't. I cannot and I've little interest any longer in trying to convince anyone who doesn't share that view that they are wrong and I'm right.

Parnall's viewpoint is that Brexit "can't work/won't work". Mine is that it has worked, we have left. He can express himself how he likes.

DrBlackbird · 21/05/2022 13:10

@Alexandra2001 don’t hold your breath waiting for an answer. Or, perhaps more specifically an answer that makes sense to you. IIRC, making our own laws and entering into Britain’s own trade deals were two of the biggest arguments in favour of Brexit. Both falling under the mythical label, ‘sovereignty’.

Me, I didn’t trust these Tories or this PM to make new laws or enter new trade agreements that would benefit the people of this country. Whilst those who had faith in the Brexit project, may now fall into two categories. Ones who had hoped for better laws and are now disappointed and others who approve of the changes being pushed by our current government with Britain’s new sovereignty and Johnson’s majority.

The NFU may fall into the former category as they acknowledge that farmers have been left in an “untenable” position, with “very little detail” available about how the schemes will impact them given that the government’s post-Brexit farming policies are “completely contradictory” along with the new trade deals that leave British beef, sheep and dairy farmers at a disadvantage. To that list, I think it’d be reasonable to add the fishing industry, many SMEs who exported to the EU, hauliers and logistic firms, financial firms, any industry that relied on immigrant labour etc etc etc Not to mention the mess in NI…

The list of broken and failed promises on the benefits of Brexit grows longer by the day, yet none of this is enough for some to admit it was a mistake and that they were wrong to have faith in Johnson and his supporters in parliament. Indeed, there may well be some who are in favour of these changes to trade and to British laws….? It would be interesting to hear reasons why.

But hey, the good news is that Stanley Johnson has been given French citizenship so no limits on how long he gets to live in that country. Bet we’re all cheered by that news Hmm

DrBlackbird · 21/05/2022 13:21

@LouiseCollins28 the problem is that saying "national self determination is important" is that this is a meaningless argument or empty rhetoric when there is no evidence from a concrete example to support or explain it.

pointythings · 21/05/2022 13:34

The problem with national self determination is that you can't eat it, it doesn't pay your energy bills and it won't keep an affordable roof over your head. Which is great if none of the above are a problem for you, but not so good if you're a small business which can no longer export to its biggest market, or an employee watching the same money buy ever less food for your family. There's a reason why the UK has the highest inflation in most of Western Europe and it starts with B.

LouiseCollins28 · 21/05/2022 13:44

DrBlackbird · 21/05/2022 13:21

@LouiseCollins28 the problem is that saying "national self determination is important" is that this is a meaningless argument or empty rhetoric when there is no evidence from a concrete example to support or explain it.

I'm guessing here that you haven't said that to any Ukrainians you know recently? Sorry, it just isn't meaningless, well not to me anyway. Seriously, what further explanation do I need to provide?

HannibalHeyes · 21/05/2022 13:58

Ah, comparing EU membership to military invasion by Russia.

Tell that to the Ukrainians - you know, the ones desperately trying to join the EU...

SerendipityJane · 21/05/2022 13:59

Didn't realise we were fighting off an armed invasion from the EU @LouiseCollins28 - of course now you've pointed it out it all makes sense. Well worth fuckiing our kids future over for. You only had to say that 6 years ago and we could have saved a lot of bickering.

Anyway, looking forwards as all good Brexiteers seem to struggle with, I find myself wondering how the new Australian distinctly non-Jonhson friendly government will work with the UK. Apparently they feel they need to renegotiate the trade deal they just signed and will be passing a new law to allow them to ignore it.

Such fun in the world. Imagine dying now - all you'd miss.