Brexit Megathread Part 3: COP26 and beyond. The Empire is no more.

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The old thread is nearly full so as COP26 is in my home town, I thought I'd start the next one.

I'm not expecting anything wonderful from COP26. The selfishness that is Brexit will extend to the rich nations - or rather corporations, countries and cronies - not wanting to do anything that might actually cost them money or hurt their profits and having made their money on the back of the resources of the poorer nations (in some cases quite literally ), they'll expect them to pay the price for the riches of the West.

The deliberate mistranslation of France's letter to the EU will distract from real issues - but that's ok for BJ as he can then blame the perfidious French.

Nothing changes.

Our pro - Brexit BBC talks about how suspending the NI Protocol may be the only option.

Only when you get to the last few paragraphs does it mention the USA involvement - which I suspect is a much bigger game chamber than either Frost or Johnson want to admit.

@HannibalHayeski

Geoffrey Cox making himself ever more popular to the average tax payer;

Geoffrey Cox has received more than £800,000 for his work at Withers LLP, a law firm that helps multinational companies to sue nations for introducing any measures that harm their profits...

Yes - the man that advised Johnson that proroging Parliament for an historic extended period was probably lawful.

Yes - the man that advised Johnson that proroging Parliament for an historic extended period was probably lawful.

I'm sure if you pay him enough he will tell you the law is whatever you want it to be as well. He must be very good at that, to be paid so much.

Yes - the man that advised Johnson that proroging Parliament for an historic extended period was probably lawful.

Thanks for reminding me about that. There’s so much awfulness about it’s hard to remember it all.

For me, that summed up the flavour of this Gvmnt early on. Our Constitution is not written, but based on clear sovereignty of Parliament, and actions of its members, based on serving the interests of the country with integrity, duty, and honour

This Gvmnt seeks to stretch the remit and breadth of what it may do, taking clear advantage of lack of very clear boundaries which have not been necessary previously, for political advantage - serving party and individuals first.
But they are seeking to 'reform' judicial review of Gvmnt, so they will have more freedom to act as they wish

Pretty dispicable.

R4 was interesting today. Lord Evans pointing out that ultimately the reputation of parliament affects the whole country - as other countries lose trust in our systems, they simply won't invest or trade with us.

Followed by the Pakistan Security minister who was eloquent, focussed and 100% spot on in his analysis of the situation in Afghanistan. To be honest I really can't think of any serving UK minister who has been as cogent for years. Except maybe Tony Blair recently. Who - much as I despise - knows how to lay out a case.

Interesting post DGR. To be honest I think Parliament's reputation is currently in the toilet, as well as the Government's.

Whether it's ludicrous payments for outside work; expenses and MPs claiming £81k basic isn't enough; MPs trying to bend the rules to get their mate "off" or drunkard MPs on a jolly to Gibraltar...I think we're back to 2009/10 levels of public disquiet about the actions of our representatives.

Interesting post DGR. To be honest I think Parliament's reputation is currently in the toilet, as well as the Government's.

In the toilet ? It's so far round the U-bend it's out to sea.

Not only will less corrupt nations (and businesses therein) now hesitate to engage with the UK. The see-saw will drag the more corrupt countries (and their businesses) towards the UK. After all if you're prepared to remove standards bodies you happen to dislike, then you are simply going to attract the admiration of the likes of Putin or Lukashenko.

It's almost as if when the expenses scandal happened, and other countries ridiculed the UK for being so outraged by it compared to some other countries, we took that as a challenge and decided to redouble our efforts ....

More Brexshit winning - this time for Wales. I bet they're so proud they voted for this...

@HannibalHayeski

More Brexshit winning - this time for Wales. I bet they're so proud they voted for this...

It just goes to show how much money Wales was getting that it didn't need and that now can be spent on leveling up other areas of England, such as Boris' rich mates pockets.

Yep. I've been reading the reaction around Cornwall's funding this morning. 100 million from the EU, 1 million from Westminster.

Apparently, most of the Brexit lot thought they were supporting farmers and fishermen. It's not going well...

To be fair the fallout from MPs expenses in terms of people leaving Parliament wasn't very significant, still less hoardes of them ending up behind bars!

@HannibalHayeski

More Brexshit winning - this time for Wales. I bet they're so proud they voted for this...

The research has shown due to english immigration was why wales voted leave

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/sep/22/english-people-wales-brexit-research

But but but ... Quitlings always tell us it was never about immigrayshun...

@JustAnotherPoster00 I read your post, and for a moment thought you meant the Welsh voted for Brexit because they were fed up of the English moving in. Chortle.

Just to be clear, I don't consider the removal of highly significant regional funding to be funny.
It was predicted from the start.
Am just getting slightly unhinged with it all.

It was predicted from the start.

And we were told that this was Project Fear. We were going to have the easiest trade deals in history with the rest of the world, and raise standards, yada, yada, yada. Not cut funding to non Tory areas and reduce standards to the minimum the Government can get away with.

@DoubleTweenQueen

Just to be clear, I don't consider the removal of highly significant regional funding to be funny. It was predicted from the start. Am just getting slightly unhinged with it all.

Well Boris has to find the £350million he promised a week for the NHS from somewhere.

It was predicted from the start.

On the Westminstenders threads (of which these are a welcome continuation) for literally years, and from even before the Referendum. By a group of (mostly) women, with no wide ranging political knowledge or expertise (though some have/had some very specific and useful background knowledge).
Why on earth did so many of the great and good - and so many business leaders and media bods - have no bloody clue?

That was a rhetorical question, but the answer would be greed, wilful ignorance and stupidity.

Ah, but if you told them that they would reply "oh, it's all about the money with you Remoaners"...

@TheABC

Yep. I've been reading the reaction around Cornwall's funding this morning. 100 million from the EU, 1 million from Westminster.

Apparently, most of the Brexit lot thought they were supporting farmers and fishermen. It's not going well...

Yep, and it's been going so very well for those fishermen...

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www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/nov/11/blow-to-uk-battery-industry-hopes-as-johnson-matthey-halts-research

'World-beating'.

Yep, and it's been going so very well for those fishermen...

Well if the fishermen are too stubborn to take the opportunities presented by the trade deals with Botswana, Lesotho and so on, it is hardly the government's fault.
If only the fisherman had similar initiative and talent as the MP for Torridge and West Devon and use their skills in the British Virgin Islands.