Brexit Megathread - Part 1 because it's not over by a long shot

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Started a new thread for all things Brexity as the last generic dumping ground reached its 1000 post limit. As this developing shitshow unfolds it's going to be important to share and unload. Clav of course will punt a contrarian view along with unrepentant 'taking back control' so-called Brexiteers. I look forward to seeing the benefits.

Can any comfort cold or otherwise be had in this whirlpool of despair? What's next ?

www.expressandstar.com/entertainment/sandwell-entertainment/2021/09/24/sandwell-festival-cancelled-due-to-co2-shortage/

Bedtime reading for our children.

Don't forget that Turkey is a forrin import anyway.

True British Brexshitters should be eating goose.

True British Brexshitters should be eating goose.

Artisanal local farm-shop goose, no less.

Proper Brexshitters should be eating tripe rather than just talking it.

I suppose if I was minded and charitable a thread talking about the reasons leave won and how in the left-behind areas of mostly England a mostly working-class militant tendency saw the vote as a chance to express their pain and rage at their declining fortunes.

Some may even see Brexit as it unfolds as working for their interests be they an HGV driver, brickie or electrician or even a shop worker in the SE on minimum wage. Access to housing, NHS and schools and the pressure on them is also part of that mix.

I may have missed it but I have yet to see Clav et al debate this in any depth just indulge in ding-dong whataboutery. Rejoin is probably not possible for the foreseeable future but if Labour doesn't start to address the elephant in the room which is both Johnson's government and Brexit I don't see a way out of what seems to be inexorable and dispiriting economic and social decline.

The only positive I can see from the chaos is that it may help some to wake up and smell the manure.

My apparently gammony cat enjoys eating grey squirrels. Perhaps I should have a word, as he should really start going for native British species, not the forrin invaders. Although I’m not entirely sure of his gammon credentials, he’s a staunch proponent of feline exceptionalism, but aren’t they all?

Rejoin is probably not possible for the foreseeable future but if Labour doesn't start to address the elephant in the room which is both Johnson's government and Brexit

The current narrative from the media is to treat Brexit as something that had to happen that people had no agency in. I guess in that sense they are thinking enough people are dim enough to conflate it with Covid.

New day new horror - market failure of a major chilled food distributor. Disaster capitalism at its finest privatise the profits socialise the losses.

BREAKING: EVCL Chill, a specialist food delivery company which was responsible for delivering 10,000 pallets of food and drink a day to Sainsbury's and Asda, has gone into administration.

EVCL Chill’s parent, EV Cargo UK, which is not affected, is owned by private equity investor Emergevest.

"Trade union Unite is scathing about the business model followed by EV. Unite believes that EVCL Chill’s collapse into administration is a direct result of the parent company seeking to maximise short term returns at the expense of the investment needed to secure it’s long-term future.

Unite says that as a separate company, Emergevest will avoid picking up the cost of the collapse of EVCL Chill, which will have to be met by the taxpayer."

www.globalcoldchainnews.com/evcl-chill-enters-administration/

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10026195/Supermarket-food-distributor-goes-BUST-leaving-1-000-workers-unemployed-amid-HGV-driver-chaos.html

Why can't Brexiteers post pictures that are funny and true. Presumably because they wouldn't know the truth if it drove a lorry and cared for their kin.

He who can read other than English laughs longest ...

www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/brexit-eu-europe-newspapers-uk-shortages-292005/

"The labour issue is not about Covid."
According to this turkey farmer.
What does he know, though, eh?

Like our Blue passports that ration book will probably have to be printed in France. It's a daily first world horror show apparently still big queues for fuel in London at the moment. It's going to be a long cold and dark winter of discontent. If I weren't a democrat I would be wishing for a military coup!

Incidentally has anyone else noticed a lot if squirrels around at the moment ? The real grey things that is, not the cyber Clavipasteandnova type.

Could it mean a mild winter, or a fucking freezing cull of a winter ?

MrsDGR has just commented we've seen squirrels every day on our lawns for two weeks now.

(Googling suggests it's the universe telling us to slow down ,,, worldbirds.com/squirrel-symbolism/)

Not in my garden the local foxes have seen to that who live under next door's shed ! Before them, squirrels were a pest that messed up a lot of my pots.

To those who know, are the shortages (general not petrol) due to JIT/RORO being interrupted by Brexit?

If no no amount of visa’s will solve this if HGV multi-stops are being hampered?

I’ve noticed hardly EU reg vehicles on the trunk roads around dartford/Essex/Dover corridor, I don’t think this was the case pre-B.

I'd trust this over a single word from the government at the moment

www.farmersalmanac.com/20-signs-of-a-hard-winter-479

No amount of visas (and there are only 5,000 to go around) are going to tempt people who have already decided to fuck the UK and stay away.

Anyway, a couple of other forums I frequent are noting that experienced UK lorry drivers are still being turned down for work ...

yeah tanker drivers need an ADR licence [] because of the money currently on offer I've contacted 3 driving agencies to offer my services but all 3 have turned me down because I don't hold a Certificate of Professional Competence, there are 1000's of older HGV drivers in the same boat and we are sat at home twiddling our thumbs whilst the country grinds to a halt

Which makes me suspect there's an agenda at work here. Much like the miners strike had fuck all to do with mining.

I’ve noticed hardly EU reg vehicles on the trunk roads around dartford/Essex/Dover corridor, I don’t think this was the case pre-B.

I noticed that myself going up the M6 about a month ago, and said so to DH. I will be making the same journey today and also going on the A55, which at times used to heave with Irish lorries going for the boat at Holyhead. I will be watching again today.

@Peregrina suddenly dawned on me when I got cut up by HGV this week.

Saw the EU plates and realised I’ve not seen that in eons whereas they were very common before.

The biggest cabbage grower in Britain food rotting in the ground.

I find I simply want to hold Brexit voters' feet to the fire. Very, very close to the fire. I haven't felt anger like this since 2016. Thanks for this thread and the others, which I read but don't post on as I only have emotions and no rational comments to share!

Own up, who started the Brexit wind-up thread in AIBU?

@TheElementsSong not me - can you link to it I'd like to have a look !

Found it just been troll hunted by MNHQ. That's a shame I wanted to signpost this thread and forum.

Thread deleted
Message from MNHQ: Thanks for the reports - the OP is a troll.

On my local FB group where I am a real person, there are a number of threads about the petrol shitshow and the chaos it entails. It is a tory very Brexitteee working-class well-done area and the only comment from an EE sounding name said Brexit in the responses. As they say, it's still not cutting through to large swathes of the country.