Brexit Megathread - Part 1 because it's not over by a long shot

[vera99]

Started a new thread for all things Brexity as the last generic dumping ground reached its 1000 post limit. As this developing shitshow unfolds it's going to be important to share and unload. Clav of course will punt a contrarian view along with unrepentant 'taking back control' so-called Brexiteers. I look forward to seeing the benefits.

Peregrina
But vera99 has contributed one long article

It wasn't just one long article -11:34 yesterday looks even longer!

This is not the same as posting wodge after wodge of pointless cut and pastes on thread after thread

They are not pointless to me - you only like to hear an echo chamber - and I did post other comments yesterday. In fact I haven't posted that much on here recently at all - but then vera99 started posting snide remarks about me behind my back when I was posting on AIBU. Not that I have to justify my return - this is a public forum.

Oh, and it was Jacob Rees-Mogg on QT by the way - you obviously have a poor memory.

It can't be behind your back on a public forum... I'm away for the weekend C&P so Ctrl-V away to your heart's content.

No cream slices at Tesco. Is this the Brexit you voted for? IS IT? #BrexitDisaster

Terry Christian has just retweeted my tweet I'm in heaven ...

I was in my local caff t'other day and the woman serving a young lad was talking about the traffic around our local Sainsbury's. He said 'yeah, it's shit, but what can you do?' I mentioned Brexit, the woman agreed but he left without saying a word. I think from that he might have been one of those in the majority here to vote leave. Got no sympathy for him or anybody else suffering because they were so shortsighted.

I'm still laughing at Farridge being crashed into this morning. Oh Schadenfreude, how I love you and your Germanic beauty.

Lengthy placemark. Or place cat.

Even if Brexit was amazingly successful there would be some areas that would be worse than before - its a complexity thing.

The absolute failure of brexiteers to acknowledge that anything has been made worse by brexit says more about how sh*t it is than any posts here.

As for the complete failure to point to anything that is 'better' after Brexit.....

It's a crazy world when the Daily Mail is doing more to warn about Brexit problems than the UK opposition.

EU ID cards no longer accepted at the UK border .... not even for truck drivers!

Even the things that they try to claim as a benefit - eg the "ability" to issue visas for areas of shortage - are lies as the UK could always have issued additional visas if it had wanted.

The only "new" thing is that they can choose to issue temporary visas of less than 3 months to potential applicants from the EU - which of course will make jobs here sooooooo attractive

See also "cheaper food", roaming charges, reduced red tape.....

vera99
I'm away for the weekend

And so am I - I have already posted that.

No cream slices at Tesco. Is this the Brexit you voted for? IS IT?

Bad luck. I'm not keen on cream slices myself - plenty of chocolate cake in Waitrose. Yum.

#bekind

Femi
@Femi_Sorry
Ella Whelan saying Remainers are rubbing their hands together with glee watching the chaos...

You set fire to our house when we told you not to.
It doesn't suddenly become our fault because we're reminding you how we got here.

I’m not enjoying the chaos. I’m issuing a lot of well deserved I told you sos though.

I know I rarely post these days but I don't forget..

There will be lovely people on here who remember Gove selling the great Brexit pig boost in 2017. Pigs ears to China - a huge market apparently.

www.theargus.co.uk/news/15570270.amp/

Four years later the pig market seems not as Gove predicted..

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-58658602

If anyone sees Gove please do ask him for a comment. Was he telling porkies, making a pig's ear of it etc etc

Oh, and it was Jacob Rees-Mogg on QT by the way - you obviously have a poor memory.

"Yes, dear, if you say so". I am damned if I know when I let you into my house to monitor my viewing habits, to tell me what I watched and when, and therefore what I remember. All that potentially tells me is that you religiously watch QT week after week. Do you keep a tally and columns - Leaver statements in one, and Other?

I do recall that Rees-Mogg said that we won't realise the full benefits for 50 years, by which time I will be long dead and he probably will be also. But he didn't bother to wait - he moved his investments to Ireland smartish.

Adding butchers to the ever growing list of industries seeking dispensations/ special visas. The Today programme interviewed some pig farmers this morning, chaos reigns and the culling sounds horrendous

I am not enjoying the chaos either but funnily enough, I go remarkably deaf when a known Leaver starts whinging.

I know I rarely post these days but I don't forget..

Haven’t forgotten you either, Lonely! Hope you’re doing OK.

@RunningOnFumes

Adding butchers to the ever growing list of industries seeking dispensations/ special visas. The Today programme interviewed some pig farmers this morning, chaos reigns and the culling sounds horrendous

Farming Today is mostly a catalogue of Brexit chaos nowadays. It’s astonishing that the very real and damaging consequences of this monumental shitshow to almost all rural industries and life is so comprehensively ignored by pretty much all other media outlets. OTOH they never knew or cared much about this sector so perhaps we shouldn’t be surprised.

Today’s offering:

01/10/21 Shortage of daffodil pickers, warnings that fishing will lose £300 million, army veteran farmer

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00100dy

I think a gazelle tripped over a fallen branch somewhere in the Serengeti, therefore ToryBrexitannia is fiiiiiiiiinnnne.

'Get Brexit Done' is an anagram of 'Being Extorted'.

UK Government looking at how to reverse the inefficiencies which Brexit brought into the UK wholesale electricity market.

BEIS document here for anyone who wants it.

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I do think with a lot of the recent and coming shortages it's true that Brexit is not the one and only single factor. However, in my experience any major c*ck up (eg at work) is generally because a whole series of things went wrong. A system can usually absorb 1 or even 2 slips.

But Brexit is a massive system wide factor and the politicians who introduced it have taken no responsibility for managing it. (The arrogance.)

So it's like - for example - changing the company-wide computer system everyone uses and going live straight off without extra training or slowing the workload while workers adjust. You can't then blame the resulting problems on the staff and a rush on customer demand. Nope, it's managerial incompetence.

The shortages etc may down to Brexit + underlying weakness in the system - but it's all down to government incompetence. Incompetence and lack of care.

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(Also - does anyone have the clip from German TV where the presenter talks frankly about the fuel crisis and what a mess Britain is in? I'd love to see it posted here but can't find it online.)

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BEIS doco:

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1022065/power-exchange-consultation-gb-wholesale-electricity-market-arrangements.pdf

I just thought I’d post a bit more of the blurb from Farming Today today, in case anyone doesn’t have the time or inclination to listen to it.

There are warnings that British fishing will lose £300 million in the next five years, rather than gaining £148 million as the Government promised. The figures come from the National Federation of Fishermen’s Organisations which says a cost benefit analysis of the impact of Brexit shows there are few winners in the UK fleet, and that an ‘opportunity has been squandered.’

Whoops...

www.mirror.co.uk/money/breaking-wetherspoons-plunges-150million-loss-25113376

There you are ultimate....

twitter.com/AlexTaylorNews/status/1443083587759362050

Pub chain Wetherspoon reports record loss https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58758701

Interestingly, ds was saying that although he didn't like going to Weatherspoons and would've preferred to boycott them, they used to be attractive amongst students because of their app but that Covid regulations had meant that most other pubs had got their act together, so they now chose to avoid the local 'Spoons and go elsewhere.

So Covid has caused a double whammy for Tim Martin - to add to the self created double whammy of Brexit reducing hospitality staff and Remainers boycotting his pubs

Couldn't happen to a nicer person