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Westminstenders: Tachographs and Empty Shelves

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pointythings · 11/07/2021 17:58

So Grant Shapps' solution to the shortage of lorry drivers is to allow them to drive longer hours.

Leading to more accidents and deaths on the UK's roads. But Brexit is Job Done and all is well - isn't it?

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Catma2021 · 30/07/2021 14:01

@DrBlackbird I’ve got through some of my stocks. I was going to clear out my tinned food cupboard, but I’m glad I didn’t get round to it now!

Might need to wipe my bum on leaves though!

DrBlackbird · 30/07/2021 14:06

Yes, I’m afraid the one item I’ve totally run down was my loo paper Catma! It’ll be leaves for our household as well.

DrBlackbird · 30/07/2021 14:27

Not really Brexity, but it’s so despairing at the utter incompetence and sheer waste of taxpayers money that Johnson is happy to staff up a wall… finally admitting it seems, that £110b of our money will be spent in reducing the journey between B’ham and London by an awe inspiring 15 minutes. And that’s it…Though, tbf, this project is a cross party fiasco but Johnson had a clear chance to be rational and pull the plug in 2019.

dontcallmelen · 30/07/2021 15:25

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prettybird · 30/07/2021 17:27

Another The annoying thing about HS2 is that it is deemed to be "national infrastructure" so isn't included in the Barnet Formula (which determines the spending money budget given to the Scottish Government) - even though it will not benefit Scotland in the slightest Angry

See also: HS1 and the Channel tunnel Angry

DrBlackbird · 01/08/2021 11:12

So looks like the penny is dropping / has dropped for some businesses in the North East according to the North East England chamber of Commerce … it’s not like the NE could do with income etc Hmm

Their concerns seem to be supported by some economists, but never mind we’ve had enough of experts. We certainly didn’t need any of those in the last 18months, did we.

Yes, taking back control, sovereignty, kicking out those Eastern European workers stealing our jobs, preventing an EU army blah blah were the more potent emotional arguments vs the more rational economic ones. Us humans are generally more swayed by emotion than reason. Those I know who voted to Leave were giving more emotive reasons for doing so.

Still, it’s a shame that somehow the more emotional aspects of the rational economic arguments such as losing a business, depleting goods in stores, including food, etc. was so successfully written off as ‘project fear’.

Pretty sure that Johnson, JRM, Gove et al won’t be suffering either financially or from loss of goods or services. The utter utter bastards.

DGRossetti · 01/08/2021 12:25

So looks like the penny is dropping / has dropped for some businesses in the North East according to the North East England chamber of Commerce … it’s not like the NE could do with income etc

As we now know, the SOP is for Boris and the Boyz to simply raise their hands and caterwaul about how they are merely "delivering what the public repeatedly voted for" and anyone who doesn't like it can go do one.

There is a delicious irony in the cheerleaders of Brexit being told to fuck themselves in the name of the will of the people .

dontcallmelen · 02/08/2021 20:01

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Menomadness · 02/08/2021 21:10

[quote DGRossetti]www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/romanian-lorry-driver-brexit-supermarket-shortages-284155[/quote]
I saw that earlier! I was also a bit Confused at Andrew Bridgen and his "it's Tony Blair's fault we have no lorry drivers " article yesterday! Pesky poor kids getting educated!

DrBlackbird · 03/08/2021 00:29

Pressure has been building on Johnson to redraw restrictions on foreign travel, with Rishi Sunak, the chancellor, writing to the prime minister to demand changes to the UK quarantine policy. In the letter, seen by the Sunday Times, Sunak said UK border policy was “out of step with our international competitors”

Writing to Johnson. Very formal innit? Sounds like a Prime Ministerial type challenge to me. What kind of PM do we think Dishy Rishi would make? More committed / hard core neoliberalist. How would that play out in EU trade negotiations? Hmm

Boarderingmadness · 03/08/2021 08:31

@DrBlackbird

Pressure has been building on Johnson to redraw restrictions on foreign travel, with Rishi Sunak, the chancellor, writing to the prime minister to demand changes to the UK quarantine policy. In the letter, seen by the Sunday Times, Sunak said UK border policy was “out of step with our international competitors”

Writing to Johnson. Very formal innit? Sounds like a Prime Ministerial type challenge to me. What kind of PM do we think Dishy Rishi would make? More committed / hard core neoliberalist. How would that play out in EU trade negotiations? Hmm

When people on the right say the 'papers don't have much influence on Government policy or peoples opinions anymore.

Look no further than the pressure papers like the DM and Express have had on these changes in travel policy.

DrBlackbird · 03/08/2021 08:43

Boardering especially when it’s a govt run by bloody journalists 🙄

Jason118 · 03/08/2021 11:19

One of the many things that I don't know is how much the decline in hard copy newspaper circulation is being made up by their online equivalent? If hard copy is added to online, are the Mail and Express as much seen as they were in days of yore?

HannibalHayeski · 04/08/2021 00:24

john coleman
@Coleman48J
10h
The Bank of England announced that voting to leave the European Union has cost Britain more than £440 million a week in lost growth since the referendum, thats £727 per second.

HannibalHayeski · 04/08/2021 00:25

RHA warns government that UK supply chain faces collapse in “two to three weeks”

DGRossetti · 04/08/2021 08:03

@HannibalHayeski

john coleman *@Coleman48J* 10h The Bank of England announced that voting to leave the European Union has cost Britain more than £440 million a week in lost growth since the referendum, thats £727 per second.
That's a lot more that £350 million a week for the NHS ...
borntobequiet · 04/08/2021 11:26

@HannibalHayeski

RHA warns government that UK supply chain faces collapse in “two to three weeks”
I think similar was said on the Farming Today link I posted a bit upthread…end August/beginning Sept. I’m going to defrost the freezer today and stock up. Because I live on my own I tend to use frozen veg as less waste, only buy fresh in season. I still have an oversupply of jam though.
DrBlackbird · 04/08/2021 15:19

@Jason118

It's nearly ready then.......

www.gov.uk/government/news/customs-declaration-service-to-become-uks-single-customs-platform

Nearly ready in 2023

world-leading technology, will serve as the UK’s single customs platform from 31 March 2023

Really it ought to be world beating technology shouldn’t it to fit it with the rest of Bojo’s world beating bs…?

prettybird · 04/08/2021 15:47

What are the odds on it actually being ready and being able to cope with the volume of transactions with the E27? Hmm

But there again, by then the volume of business with the EU might have declined enough to be manageable Sad

DGRossetti · 04/08/2021 16:20

What are the odds on it actually being ready and being able to cope with the volume of transactions with the E27?

Why on earth would we want to do business with those losers, when New Zealand, Australia and China are beckoning ?

QueenOfThorns · 04/08/2021 19:50

@DGRossetti

What are the odds on it actually being ready and being able to cope with the volume of transactions with the E27?

Why on earth would we want to do business with those losers, when New Zealand, Australia and China are beckoning ?

I know which I’d rather buy my lettuces from!
Jason118 · 04/08/2021 22:29

It does beg the question that if it will not be ready until 2023, have they just started again because the previous system in development is complete and utter shite?

DGRossetti · 05/08/2021 07:38

@Jason118

It does beg the question that if it will not be ready until 2023, have they just started again because the previous system in development is complete and utter shite?
No, that's Universal Credit.

(Anyone else have to resist an Oscar Wilde quote there ?)