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Westminstenders: Put Your Faith In The Home Office

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pointythings · 08/06/2021 08:55

Because there doesn't seem to be a new thread yet. I'm no RTB or any of you other experts, but these threads need to keep going.

Give me a couple weeks and I'll be able to post cat placemarks!

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Peregrina · 17/06/2021 13:24

Passports of course bear photos - so a HO clerk doesn't have to guess the colour of a person's skin.

I do wish that an investigative journalist would get onto this.

Peregrina · 17/06/2021 19:25

This sadly is what Brexit has engendered in some people. Yet Leavers on these threads swear blind that Brexit wasn't about immigration.

Where incidentally are the Leavers' comments on the Australian Food standards? Why are they not up in arms - Brexit was going to make us improve our standards.

HarrietPierce · 17/06/2021 19:43

The writers of that anonymous letter are vile xenophobes who feel empowered by Brexshit.

pointythings · 17/06/2021 20:05

There was a similar incident in a block of flats in Norwich a few years ago. It really isn't a matter of a few rotten apples amid the mass of utterly respectable Leavers who were only thinking of the ECJ - for most of them it was absolutely about xenophobia. I joined these threads because the day after the Referendum, my DDs were told to 'fuck off back home' at their school - and not by just one fellow student. Not that it matters, but they were bloody born here.

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Eve · 17/06/2021 21:23

Speaking of dinosaurs, DUP in crisis tonight.

Doesn’t bode well for an upsurge in violence in NI , and yet Kate Hoey sees fit to hold rallies over the protocol just to inflame things even more.

To quote a comment I read, ‘all these years it was Irish Nationalism that was feared in NI when it should have been English Nationalism. ‘

purplesequins · 17/06/2021 21:41

@Peregrina

This sadly is what Brexit has engendered in some people. Yet Leavers on these threads swear blind that Brexit wasn't about immigration.

Where incidentally are the Leavers' comments on the Australian Food standards? Why are they not up in arms - Brexit was going to make us improve our standards.

a friend of mine received a 'go home polish scum' card in the letterbox.
Peregrina · 17/06/2021 21:46

Poots didn't last long, did he?

HarrietPierce · 17/06/2021 21:50

Potty Poots

"His time as leader lasted the same amount of time he thinks the Earth has been in existence."

mathanxiety · 18/06/2021 05:06

"Thank you, next..."

Yet again the DUP showing inability to engage with reality.
The Irish Language Act is the latest in a long list of hills for them to die on. They are still facing the prospect of annihilation at the polls and still believe rearranging the deckchairs will make everything better.

The big question is whether the vacuum created by the spontaneous combustion of the DUP will be filled by moderate unionism capable of looking forward or diehards with a fondness for taking grievances to the street.

jasjas1973 · 18/06/2021 07:20

Good to see the LD's take the Tory safe seat of Chesham and Amersham, 30pt swing too :)

pointythings · 18/06/2021 07:30

Jasjas yes, I have just woken up to that bit of news - put a smile on my face.

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Peregrina · 18/06/2021 08:13

Yes, this result put a smile on my face too. Although I then thought that one swallow does not make a summer.

I think a better win than the LDS hoped for. Reasons - people fed up with Johnson's lies, Jenrick's planning nonsense and HS2. Plus the feeling that as a 'pig in a blue rosette' seat, they had been neglected in favour of the Red Wall. Who knows whether Johnson turning up to canvass was an asset or a liability?

Kit Malthouse was declaring that the Tories did well in the recent local elections - but in a lot of S E England, the Tories lost quite a good number of seats. But they crowed about how badly Labour was doing.

yellowspanner · 18/06/2021 09:04

Just to say, I also think those letters to the families in York are vile and have no place in our society. I welcome immigration, but with a fairer system. One that give all nationalities equal chance to come and work here.
Clearly some people who voted leave are racist, but not all of us.

prettybird · 18/06/2021 09:09

The big question is whether the vacuum created by the spontaneous combustion of the DUP will be filled by moderate unionism capable of looking forward or diehards with a fondness for taking grievances to the street. (Mathanxiety)

I suspect that it will be a mix of the two. The worrying "unknown" is what the proportions will be Confused Obviously the hope is that it will mostly be the moderates, but with Brexit/the NIP, and eejits like Kate Hoey stirring up trouble, who knows? Sad

At least with Biden in charge, the UK government can't try and pull the wool over the eyes of the US administration and whine that it's the EU's fault that the hard won GFA is at risk. Hmm

jasjas1973 · 18/06/2021 09:10

Yellow

Very small winning margin, didn't take many racists to swing the vote.

However, its done now, spilt milk an all that.

Lets see if people will want to come here, so many other countries also need young workers.

Peregrina · 18/06/2021 09:26

We of course have just signed a deal to encourage our young workers to go to Australia.

Peregrina · 18/06/2021 09:53

I have also read elsewhere that the new Australia deal has a clause which protects Indian basmati rice growers. So that's good of Johnson - protect Indian farmers but tell British ones to go hang.

pointythings · 18/06/2021 09:54

yellowspanner it's the old adage: Not all Leave voters are racist, but all racists who voted, voted Leave. With the margin so small, the contribution of racism and xenophobia to the outcome was disproportionate. And that is sad.

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UltimateFoole · 18/06/2021 10:10

Anniversary present for everyone. Wink

Politico podcast this week is called 'How To Spin A Referendum' and interviews the men behind each side's spin campaign five years on.

www.politico.eu/westminster-insider-podcast/

prettybird · 18/06/2021 10:26

@Peregrina

I have also read elsewhere that the new Australia deal has a clause which protects Indian basmati rice growers. So that's good of Johnson - protect Indian farmers but tell British ones to go hang.
... ....not that the WM Government has deigned to share the detail with anyone beyond its own coterie of advisers Hmm

To be fair (ShockWink), at this stage it is essentially just a PR stunt MOU to prove that world beating UK can sign deals half way around the world but when will Parliament get to see the detail?

At least in that supposedly undemocratic EU, both all the constituent nations and the EU Parliament have to ratify any trade deals Confused

In contrast, the constituent nations of the UK aren't allowed any meaningful involvement, let alone a veto Angry

and people wonder why many Scots would prefer to be part of the EU than the UK Confused

borntobequiet · 18/06/2021 10:34

Farming Today - Aus trade deal - “betrayal…is really the word”

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000x0wf

HarrietPierce · 18/06/2021 15:25

Good Law Project
@GoodLawProject
"Just when you think you've seen it all. 'Boris Johnson is to strip the Electoral Commission of the power to prosecute law-breaking'. Government claims it...'wastes public money'

There is nothing they can't get away with.

HannibalHayeski · 18/06/2021 17:41

It's OK though, our food & drink exports have only fallen by £2 billion in the first quarter, after Brexshit...

HannibalHayeski · 18/06/2021 17:43

Kate Hoey sounding as unhinged as ever...

prettybird · 18/06/2021 18:12

So the eejit Brexiter is still pursuing the trope that Ireland should follow the UK out of the EU Hmm

....just because it would solve the UK's self-inflicted problems with maintaining the letter and spirit of the GFA doesn't mean that Ireland are going to agree with her "logic" Confused

Especially as Ireland has benefited from its EU membership, is no longer dependent on the UK as its main market probably a cardinal sin as far as Hoey is concerned Wink and is proud of the fact that it is a net contributor to rather than beneficiary of the EU coffers, because that demonstrates how far they have come. Why would they go backwards? Confused

Contrary to what she claims, that would not be logical Confused She really is deluded Hmm

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