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Westminstenders: The New Era

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RedToothBrush · 16/05/2021 16:38

Scotland.
The GFA.
Its not Brexit Honest.
Levelling Up Shitholes caused by Tory austerity.
Babymilk Shortages
Cronyism

But we did good with covid jabs.

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pointythings · 05/06/2021 14:39

That thread encapsulates perfectly the utterly entitled way certain elements in the UK view migrants. It's basically this: they should be grateful that they're allowed to come here at all. They should be grateful that they have to pay the NHS surcharge, despite working and paying taxes already. They should shut up and not complain when they are treated like dirt by the Home Office because they're foreign and should be grateful. It's disgusting.

wewereliars · 05/06/2021 14:42

It is disgugting, and I want no part of it or of the rest of the inhumane policies set by this corrupt government of all the talentless.

FrankieStein402 · 05/06/2021 15:01

Apropos of nothing - just spent a very enjoyable half term break in Bristol - can see the place would be fabulous once live music returns.
a) Subjectively around a quarter of the many eating places had signs up 'chef wanted' / 'head chef wanted' and it was clear that service everywhere was staff constrained. ie Existing staff running around, oftimes long waits.
b) Enjoying 'A Promised Land' - Obama's book - this paragraph resonated:
The White House budget does set aside funds for a new president to redo the Oval Office, but despite some worn upholstery on the chairs and sofas, I decided that a historic recession wasn't the best time to be going through fabric swatches.

Peregrina · 05/06/2021 15:18

Bear in mind that these staff shortages are before places are fully open.

DuncinToffee · 05/06/2021 16:10

Meanwhile in N. I.

Large loyalist/unionist rally opposing the Irish Sea Border taking place in Portadown this afternoon. The latest in a series of protest parades against the Northern Ireland Brexit arrangements. t.co/mQKOlWKrSK

HarrietPierce · 05/06/2021 17:22

"Harriet, your post is nasty and offensive. I have never said I want to get rid of asylum seekers or refugees."
yellowspanner
I never actually used those words. My reference was to "any poor soul", which of course could include asylum seekers, refugees or someone like the elderly Spanish lady who has paid her taxes and lived in the UK for 56 years.

yellowspanner · 05/06/2021 17:35

Harriet, you quoted it

Westminstenders: The New Era
HarrietPierce · 05/06/2021 17:53

yellowspanner that was someone elses post and I just put exactly at the end. Take it as you will !

HarrietPierce · 05/06/2021 18:01

Yellowspanner, It was actually mrslaughan's post, so both of us must be "nasty and offensive" when expressing our sympathy for the plight of those deemed illegal by the Home Office.

Peregrina · 05/06/2021 18:08

But illegality seems something of a moveable concept. Boris Johnson was happy to consider breaking international law, until the wrong man went and won in the USA, but asylum seekers are deemed to be breaking the law when they come here on the Home Secretary's say so.

I only know of one case myself - friends have worked hard to establish that he was a genuine asylum seeker - without them he would have been banged back on a plane to somewhere in Africa and would probably be dead now.

pointythings · 05/06/2021 18:26

As of 2019 the appeals success rate against deportations sat at 50%. If I got 50% of my work wrong, I'd be sacked instantly. And yet people like yellowspanner think the Home Office is great. The mind boggles.

jasjas1973 · 05/06/2021 18:50

Why have an investigation and possible embarrassment/criminal proceeding when a simple deportation solves the problem?

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/apr/17/witnesses-to-deaths-in-detention-deliberately-deported-from-the-uk

DGRossetti · 05/06/2021 19:00

Meanwhile, what papers are you reading ?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57367093

The FBI sought information about readers of an online article as part of an investigation, it has emerged.

The agency demanded the newspaper USA Today hand over records on who had read an article about the killing of two FBI agents.

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I suspect the constitution will protect the readers. The UK, famously, having no constitution.

mrslaughan · 05/06/2021 19:10

Yes and as I has personal experience of the nastiness of the HO - I have absolutely no regard for the feelings of someone who embraces it.......

I have said I know of cases where the HO has broken the law (they didn't in our case - but did indulge in some unethical behaviour) knowing those that were to bear the consequences of their actions would never be able to afford the legal bill required to set their decision aside.

borntobequiet · 05/06/2021 19:41

a) Subjectively around a quarter of the many eating places had signs up 'chef wanted' / 'head chef wanted' and it was clear that service everywhere was staff constrained. ie Existing staff running around, oftimes long waits.

Exactly this along the Suffolk coast this past week. Desperate for staff.

FatCatThinCat · 05/06/2021 21:21

@pointythings

That thread encapsulates perfectly the utterly entitled way certain elements in the UK view migrants. It's basically this: they should be grateful that they're allowed to come here at all. They should be grateful that they have to pay the NHS surcharge, despite working and paying taxes already. They should shut up and not complain when they are treated like dirt by the Home Office because they're foreign and should be grateful. It's disgusting.
It's become very clear over the last few years that the issue leavers have with EU migrants is that they were treated as equals. That's not acceptable and they need to know their place.
HarrietPierce · 05/06/2021 22:00

FatCatThinCat Yes, We musn't let Johnny Foreigner get above themselves.

HesterThrale · 06/06/2021 09:23

At the supermarket yesterday, there were no cucumbers or avocados and hardly any of my usual yogurt (made in France). Other items seemed spaced out and sparse. I thought little of it, then later happened upon this thread, with hundreds of people talking of shortages.
So it must be real.

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DGRossetti · 06/06/2021 09:43

Suffer little children

www.theguardian.com/education/2021/jun/04/school-trips-to-uk-from-eu-could-halve-brexit-hits-cultural-exchanges

French and German educational trip organisers bringing as many as 750,000 school pupils to the UK every year have warned that tougher post-Brexit entry requirements are likely to cut the number of young Europeans visiting Britain by half.

“We’ve already seen a big fall-off in interest,” said Edward Hisbergues, the sales manager of a leading French operator, PG Trips. “My business was 90% UK, 10% Ireland; now it’s all about Ireland. Schools are inquiring about visits to the Netherlands or Malta.”

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Who remembers why and where the Trafalgar Square Xmas tree comes from ? Maybe the UK could receive a plethora of similar gifts thanking us for Brexit ?

Peregrina · 06/06/2021 09:46

I remember - it comes from the people of Norway as a thank you for helping them during WW2.

But if you read the Express (I don't, only headlines) you will see that the shortages are to do with EU Red Tape. Who would have thought it? How about joining the Customs Union to get rid of the Red Tape?

DGRossetti · 06/06/2021 09:47

Meanwhile

www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/brexit-traders-lose-jobs-as-banks-relocate-to-eu-and-express-blames-it-on-eurocrats-273285/

it's hard to have sympathy in this case as I imagine a hell of a lot of the refuseniks were over enthusiastic supporters of Norman "on yer bike" Tebbit back in the day.

DGRossetti · 06/06/2021 09:56

But if you read the Express (I don't, only headline)

Er, the Express is headlines. And nothing else
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In another meanwhile, El Salvador tipped to make Bitcoin legal tender.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-57373058

The whole cryptocurrency situation reminds me of the explosion in computing in the late 70s and early 80s with some people insisting it would never take off - mainly because they didn't get it. (Which seems to encapsulate a similar approach to the EU ...). I totally get it. But then I know what a state machine is. A few on this thread may too. But fuck all in finance will.

What was it Chuck Berry said about the lyrics to rock'n'roll ???

mrslaughan · 06/06/2021 11:21

Pretty much sums up why it's pointless to engage with {most} Brexiteers

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HannibalHayeski · 06/06/2021 12:31

Has Henrik been dealing with C&Pova as well?

mrslaughan · 06/06/2021 14:26

It would seem so Hannibal