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Westministenders: Unilateral Ignoring of WHO rules

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RedToothBrush · 09/03/2021 15:43

Where we are:

On 1st January the EU started to apply checks on all goods from the UK coming into the Union.

However the UK decided to take a slower route to this, and planned that on the 1st April the UK we would be carrying out Sanitary & Phytosanitary paperwork for animal and plant EU imports like meat and eggs.

Then on 1 July we'd implement a full customs check on all goods arriving into the UK from EU member states.

Obviously we've struggled with exports as we weren't ready for this and its fucked business. But ultimately the import side of things has yet to hit the shit fan still.

It sounds like there is likely to be issues with imports of food in particular, so there is talk of delaying our plan of checks until later in the day. There is concern that the reopening of pubs and restuarants which will up demands of imports occuring at the same time as checks are put in place is likely to be 'problematic'.

Remember we get 2/3 of fruit, veg and cheese from the EU. And half our wine. And to date these largely have only been affected by haulage issues NOT UK customs issues...

You might want to keep that in mind.

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blackwingedstilt · 13/03/2021 15:03

Ah, candied peel makes a bit more sense.
Disingenuous though - and that was a pre-Brexit figure.

blackwingedstilt · 13/03/2021 15:06

And not much use for "souvlaki and avgolemono"

pointythings · 13/03/2021 15:48

I loathe candied peel.

prettybird · 13/03/2021 15:55

The candied peel is probably for the expat community Wink - so demand will decline as people are no longer able to buy holiday homes there Hmm

DGRossetti · 13/03/2021 16:13

Chris Grayling moonlighting as a security consultant, I see.

www.cambridgeindependent.co.uk/news/thefts-prompt-disbelief-at-design-of-bike-sheds-on-cambridge-9159815/

A spate of cycle thefts have taken place in a group of bike sheds on a new Cambridge development that all have a rather unfortunate design.

The ventilation holes in the brick wall are big enough for any would-be thief to put an arm through and open the door from the inside.

DGRossetti · 13/03/2021 16:44

A bipartisan US resolve is probably one of the more powerful political forces in the world.

www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/us-poised-to-unveil-resolution-backing-belfast-agreement-1.4508119

US poised to unveil resolution backing Belfast Agreement

...

The resolution is being proposed by Democrat senator Bob Menendez, the chair of the Senate foreign relations committee, one of the most senior positions in Congress, and Susan Collins, a Republican senator from Maine who has been a long-standing supporter of Ireland in the Senate.

...

ListeningQuietly · 13/03/2021 17:05

DGR
That bike story is a classic

Peregrina · 14/03/2021 09:33

The Government's behaviour is just completely annoying and provocative - to say that they will unilaterally extend the periods when they won't do customs checks. If they had asked for an extension they would have been given one - now it's just an excuse to say Nasty EU won't give us what we want. However I am sure that Frost believes what he's doing - in the same way that they all believed they held all the cards.

Not only being a complete smugglers' charter.

mrslaughan · 14/03/2021 09:34

I have seen a couple of references on Twitter to the fact the UK quietly signed another treaty with Spain, with regards to Gibraltar. The Spanish papers are reporting that it essentially hands control of Gibraltar to Spain (this could absolutely be about the Spanish gov bolstering support at home).

Anyone know anything about this? I didn't see anything in the Press here....... and at the beginning of the week I believe we were wondering what all the squirrels were about......
Though I do wonder if those were predominantly about the Bill that severely restricts our ability to protest , with of course a special restriction for Steve Bray....

Peregrina · 14/03/2021 10:46

No, haven't heard anything about Gibraltar, but just before the New Year, when they made Gibraltar an associate member of Schengen, there wasn't a squeak about it in the mainstream press.

Kendodd · 14/03/2021 10:54

Is there any country left in the world we haven't pissed off or picked a fight with?

DGRossetti · 14/03/2021 11:03

The BBC have launched a new online game.

It's called "spot the word".

Every day, they will promote a news story with one word removed.

Todays:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56357221

DGRossetti · 14/03/2021 11:08

I think the next week will be interesting. Now Congress has woken up.

Will Joe be calling Boris for a St. Patricks day chat ?

TheABC · 14/03/2021 11:19

www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/03/14/uk-forced-change-tack-trade-eu-descends-chaos/

Can anyone access this? It looks vaguely interesting, but stuck behind a paywall. The Telegraph is faithful to a fault when it comes to trotting out the Tory lines on Europe, so I wondered if it was a new spin on the subject.

DGRossetti · 14/03/2021 11:47

@TheABC

www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/03/14/uk-forced-change-tack-trade-eu-descends-chaos/

Can anyone access this? It looks vaguely interesting, but stuck behind a paywall. The Telegraph is faithful to a fault when it comes to trotting out the Tory lines on Europe, so I wondered if it was a new spin on the subject.

If we misinterpret the headline to Brexiteers detriment ... what a fucking shame.

Basically - from the headline alone - it seems to be preparing the ground for a reverse ferret saying "Well, we didn't really want to trade with the EU anyway, so we'll have to look to the rest of the world"

This is where a competent interviewer would remind the spokesperson that Brexit had been specifically sold as seeking trade with the rest if the world instead of the EU, so why the fuck is any change of tack needed ???????????????????????????????????????

mrslaughan · 14/03/2021 11:54

We have noticed a shortage in the garden furniture etc market. We have decided to buy an above ground pool for this summer - they are all out of stock...... and who knows when the will be back in....

ListeningQuietly · 14/03/2021 12:01

And we are still at the interim stage
where the UK is breaking WTO rules
and has not taken control of its borders
Sad

DGRossetti · 14/03/2021 12:10

@ListeningQuietly

And we are still at the interim stage where the UK is breaking WTO rules and has not taken control of its borders Sad
Our mate Phil ( I like to talk about politics ) was looking that the options for Boris (remember the UK is sending an envoy to tell the US government how brilliant Brexit is next week) and they were not legion ...
  1. carry on pissing all over your own NIP, and see what happens.
  2. make your own NIP work, and we'll talk
  3. you could always apply to rejoin the single market, you know ?

I'm guessing we're going to see Boris try and achieve some sort of steady state between (1) and (2), depending who is looking.

Kendodd · 14/03/2021 12:45

What's NIP?

ListeningQuietly · 14/03/2021 12:49

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland_Protocol

DGRossetti · 14/03/2021 13:38

Not in the UK media ...

www.irishtimes.com/news/world/brexit/us-congressman-warns-a-future-us-uk-trade-deal-is-in-the-balance-1.4508997

US congressman warns a future US-UK trade deal is in the balance

Richard Neal condemns decision to extend grace period for customs checks between NI and Britain

US congressman Richard Neal has warned that a future US-UK trade deal is in the balance as he condemned Britain’s decision to postpone the implementation of a key part of the Brexit agreement.

Speaking to The Irish Times in his first public comments since London’s decision to extend the grace period for custom checks between Northern Ireland and Britain, the Massachusetts Democrat described the move as “arbitrary and capricious”.

“There seems to be a pattern that is developing in the aftermath of Brexit,” he said, referring to Britain’s unilateral decision to delay the introduction of checks by six months, in breach of the agreement.

“It was the arbitrary nature of how the UK challenged what they had previously agreed to…the sort of camouflaging it by suggesting that it is only about a temporary postponement,” added Mr Neal, who chairs the powerful Ways and Means Committee.

Britain has argued that the move to delay the introduction of checks was needed to keep goods on shelves in Northern Ireland. However, the EU is now preparing legal action against the UK for breaking the terms of the Brexit agreement, which required the checks to be introduced by April 1st.

In a fresh warning to London, Mr Neal – who will have ultimate say over a trade deal between Britain and the United States in his capacity as chair of the Ways and Means Committee – said the Belfast Agreement must be respected.

“This a reminder that there can be no disruption to the Good Friday Agreement, period. We see that agreement as a template that should be a model for the rest of the world.

“The president has made his position very clear. Speaker Pelosi and I have reinforced it. You have the executive and the legislative branch, and the chair of the committee with oversight on trade saying there can be no threat to the Good Friday Agreement and certainly no return to the hard border.”

He also expressed annoyance that he had not been informed about Britain’s intentions despite speaking with Britain’s ambassador to the United States and Northern Ireland Secretary Brandon Lewis recently.

“They did not tell me about the decision until after it was announced. There’s no room for unilateral action. One of the things in negotiations are that surprises are not good.”

His intervention comes ahead of next week’s St Patrick’s Day virtual meeting between US president Joe Biden and Taoiseach Micheál Martin.

Britain is dispatching an official from the Northern Ireland Office to Washington in a bid to counter Irish influence in the US capital as criticism grows at the highest levels in the US about Britain’s decision to breach the terms of the Brexit agreement.

Mr Neal was speaking after a virtual meeting this week between the Friends of Ireland caucus, a bipartisan group of Congress members, and EU Commissioner Marco Sefcovic and Foreign Minister Simon Coveney.

Ahead of St Patrick’s Day, the US Senate is preparing to unveil a new resolution in support of the Belfast Agreement to the floor early next week.

RockyRoadster · 14/03/2021 14:11

@TheABC

www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2021/03/14/uk-forced-change-tack-trade-eu-descends-chaos/

Can anyone access this? It looks vaguely interesting, but stuck behind a paywall. The Telegraph is faithful to a fault when it comes to trotting out the Tory lines on Europe, so I wondered if it was a new spin on the subject.

It’s not about trading with the rest of the world, but says now is the time to start making more goods in the UK.
DGRossetti · 14/03/2021 14:19

It’s not about trading with the rest of the world, but says now is the time to start making more goods in the UK.

So a load of bollocks then.

Good reason to not pay for the Telegraph, really.

TheABC · 14/03/2021 14:27

@RockyRoadster, thank you. That's sounds a bit like shades of North Korea; "let's throw up a big blockade and make everything ourselves" mentality. Not exactly the buccaneering spirit I had hoped for, from the Brexit lot.

Going back to the NIP, I can see Johnson oscillating between option 1 and 2 and then his sucessor coming along and doing 3 in a effort to be different/bury the bloody problem.