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Westministenders: Unilateral Ignoring of WHO rules

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RedToothBrush · 09/03/2021 15:43

Where we are:

On 1st January the EU started to apply checks on all goods from the UK coming into the Union.

However the UK decided to take a slower route to this, and planned that on the 1st April the UK we would be carrying out Sanitary & Phytosanitary paperwork for animal and plant EU imports like meat and eggs.

Then on 1 July we'd implement a full customs check on all goods arriving into the UK from EU member states.

Obviously we've struggled with exports as we weren't ready for this and its fucked business. But ultimately the import side of things has yet to hit the shit fan still.

It sounds like there is likely to be issues with imports of food in particular, so there is talk of delaying our plan of checks until later in the day. There is concern that the reopening of pubs and restuarants which will up demands of imports occuring at the same time as checks are put in place is likely to be 'problematic'.

Remember we get 2/3 of fruit, veg and cheese from the EU. And half our wine. And to date these largely have only been affected by haulage issues NOT UK customs issues...

You might want to keep that in mind.

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Peregrina · 10/03/2021 20:58

Irrespective of any damage to human rights and the environment, your right to buy these products cheaply appears to be the priority and over rides any other concerns.

Which tells you something about our own Government's attitudes about human rights and the environment - why trade easily with your neighbours,with nations who have similar standards, when you can literally ship goods half was around the world with regimes which have a very different attitude towards human rights?

ListeningQuietly · 10/03/2021 21:26

@changi

Is it just me that is wondering what the World Health Organisation has to do with Brexit?
Give RTB a chance she meant WTO
Sostenueto · 10/03/2021 22:27

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prettybird · 10/03/2021 22:31

Good to see you on the thread Sostenueto Thanks

borntobequiet · 11/03/2021 05:40

Irrespective of any damage to human rights and the environment, your right to buy these products cheaply appears to be the priority and over rides any other concerns.

Always so nice to see posters criticising others’ choices and attributing the worst and most selfish of motives to them. Many people reading these threads will have been put in the unenviable position of homeschooling children and having to print resources or working from home and needing to print documents but with their employer unwilling or unable to fund a printer (like me), and need a printer that doesn’t break the budget.
Hate is indeed not good but neither is snide righteousness.

mathanxiety · 11/03/2021 06:38

PMK -

HannibalHayes · 11/03/2021 07:48

Maybe if Hate and her ilk hadn't destroyed trade with our nearest partners, and countries that share rules on product safety and production values, we wouldn't have to rely on cheap tat from China.

But hey, Brexit is all done...

Westministenders: Unilateral Ignoring of WHO rules
HannibalHayes · 11/03/2021 12:19

More winning!

For Ireland, obviously...

KateKeeper · 11/03/2021 14:08

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ListeningQuietly · 11/03/2021 19:05

Taking control of our borders
NOT
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-11/britain-delays-brexit-import-checks-to-avert-supply-disruption

as now the UK is openly breaching WTO rules,
China and Brazil and everybody else will want their goods brought in without checks
Colombia and Myanmar and Afghanistan will love that one Hmm

borntobequiet · 11/03/2021 21:50

From Hannibal’s link:

When asked about what representations he was getting in Downing Street from the Irish government over Northern Ireland in the early part of Mrs May’s tenure, the former advisor said: “I wasn’t. This is something that I have, with hindsight, found puzzling.

“It would have been really helpful at that stage if someone from the Irish Embassy had said, ‘Let’s go for a drink and talk about this,’ but it never happened.”

Denzil Davidson, a special advisor - special advisor - to the British PM, thinks the Irish should have told them what to do about NI.....

What absolute dimwits they are.

mathanxiety · 12/03/2021 05:17

www.newsletter.co.uk/news/politics/sam-mcbride-shackled-brexit-arlene-foster-cant-admit-it-has-been-disastrous-union-irish-sea-border-radically-reshaping-ni-3110482

Problems, problems in Unionist LaLaLand.

aka, The Tangled Web, or Does the Right Hand Know What the Left Middle Hand is Up To?

Alternative title suggestions:
Cake/Eating It.
Pie in the Sky.
An unparalleled example of shortsightedness.

Mr Dodds told Newsnight: “I would stay in the European Union and remain, rather than risk Northern Ireland’s position. That’s how strongly I feel about the Union...the [Brexit] answer must be something that works for the whole of the United Kingdom – that’s our first and main priority.”

The message shocked some Brexiteers who had failed to comprehend that the DUP’s preference for Brexit – even a hard Brexit – was secondary to its ideological belief in the Union. Yet what Mr Dodds had said was wholly logical – even for a unionist party which wanted to see Brexit if it could be delivered in a way which did not harm the Union.

The leitmotif in the Unionist saga is the perfidy of Westminster and constant frustration with mainland politicians who are soft on the Union, resulting in the necessity for constant vigilance. Themes of siege and abandonment are the legacy of the Plantations.

Peregrina · 12/03/2021 08:48

Many of us can go along with the statement about the perfidy of Westminster.

RedToothBrush · 12/03/2021 08:52

Beth Rigby @bethrigby
BREXIT: Britain’s exports EU down more than 40% in Jan. EU imports down 28.8%. ONS said it largest monthly fall in goods exports & imports since records began in 1997

LOCKDOWN: Output fell 2.9% in Jan, biggest contraction since drop in Apr 2020

So much Brexit opportunity.

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ListeningQuietly · 12/03/2021 09:18

Chris Grey v David Frost
chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/

DGRossetti · 12/03/2021 16:07

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Westministenders: Unilateral Ignoring of WHO rules
TheABC · 12/03/2021 16:24

Don't worry. It will all work out in 50 years and it's not as though we have a budget deficit to close...

At what point will everyone else notice?

ListeningQuietly · 12/03/2021 16:33

Any politician who voted for Johnson's Brexit deal in December can STFU

BUT
There is a window of opportunity opening for Starmer with the repeated delays to enforcing food standards on imports ....

its the anniversary of the Horsemeat scandal
and at the moment the UK is not checking any of the food imports coming in via the channel

how long till other countries demand that their imports come in unchecked

Peregrina · 12/03/2021 17:24

There is a window of opportunity opening for Starmer with the repeated delays to enforcing food standards on imports ....

Yes, but will any of the Opposition parties take it?

I could not but help think how they could do more to land effective blows on Johnson's Tories. Take Dido Harding's failed track and trace system, costing billions, literally. The trouble is the numbers are too big for most of us to get our heads round. They need to be presented in Opportunity Cost terms e.g. it costs the John Radcliffe Hospital or Kings or Barts £XXXX per annum to run. Dido Harding's failed system would have paid for the annual running costs of these three hospitals for [however many years].

Then people might begin to get annoyed, instead of shrugging their shoulders and saying 'Whatever'.

ListeningQuietly · 12/03/2021 17:28

Dido is going to cost more than the MOD budget ....

but yes, Labour are not calling out

  • dodgy contracts
  • weakened protection of family food
  • unelected ministers
any of it
Clavinova · 12/03/2021 17:31

Japanese firms moving out

The number of Japanese firms based in the U.K. fell 12 percent between 2014 and 2019, from 1,084 to 951...data analyzed by Rudlin Consulting, with most of the impact falling on the financial services and manufacturing sectors.

DIRECTORY OF JAPANESE COMPANIES IN THE UK–MARCH 2021 EDITION - Rudlin Consulting:

"Our new directory of over 1000 Japanese companies in the UK, classified into manufacturing, wholesale, services and financial services is available for purchase as searchable pdf."

rudlinconsulting.com/directory-of-japanese-companies-in-the-uk-march-2021-edition/

12 March 2021 -
Japanese investors snapped up UK government bonds at the quickest paceon record at the start of 2021 as fading Brexit risks removed a barrier to investment in British assets.

www.ft.com/content/da6f5d9d-477b-45df-b394-fe000262224b

12 March 2021 -
Nissan has today announced plans for a major expansion to renewable energy generation at its Sunderland plant. ...

If approved, the 37,000-panel extension would result in 20% of the plant’s energy coming from all onsite renewables, enough to build every single zero-emission Nissan LEAF sold in Europe.

12 March 2021 -
Princes [owned by the Japanese giant Mitsubishi Corporation] installs new canning line as part of £80 million investment.

The food manufacturer has made what it has called the largest ever capital investment in its UK manufacturing facilities.

www.newfoodmagazine.com/news/141217/princes-new-canning-line/

DGRossetti · 12/03/2021 17:31

No point expecting Labour to do anything. Or the LibDems. I feel like our forebears must have felt in 410, seeing the Romans fuck off and being told to "look to ourselves". No one is going to help now.

Still, on the plus side, as with the Roman withdrawal, the Celtic fringes can take advantage.

Here's an interesting gander over some UK issues

weegingerdug.wordpress.com/2021/03/12/the-restless-elephant/

Clavinova · 12/03/2021 17:36

(Bloomberg) -- The U.K. economy shrank less than expected during a coronavirus lockdown in January, driven by a surprise gain in construction and stronger activity in the health sector. Gross domestic product fell 2.9%, much smaller than the 4.9% contraction that economists had forecast...

What Our Economists Say ...“We expect the economy to pick up pace in the next few months as the success of the vaccination program enables the government to remove restrictions. It’s still set to contract in 1Q, but January will probably mark the low point with more timely data indicating the recovery began in February.” ...

The Bank of England is even more upbeat, predicting a return to end-2019 levels by the start of 2022 after a 14% surge in output over the preceding year...

www.bloombergquint.com/business/u-k-economy-shrank-less-than-expected-in-january-lockdown