What have we gained by Brexit/leaving the EU?

[Elephant4]

In simple terms.

I've read so much about what we've lost.

Please no sarcastic comments. I just want to know what we've gained - probably best if those who think Brexit is a positive thing post.

**Someone on a local FB thread said that surely the creation of 50,000 new customs officials was something to cheer about. The straw clutching is strong with that lot. 😂😂

Will get really recruit 50000 new custom officers? Is that in addition to 20000 police officers? I don’t think the UK Border force will have the funds to recruit that many extra staff.

Isn't it supposed to be 50k extra people needed to deal with companies export paperwork?
Some will be border force officials but most will be in the private sector, many will be existing staff who now have extra work to do and agencies who have set up to help exporters.

I'm waiting for 20k more police and 40k extra nurses :)

I saw on another thread the suggestion for a slogan for a bus:
"We spend "£350 million a week on customs forms, let's join the EU and spend that on the NHS."

It appears all supermarkets treat suppliers badly, considering how much cheaper Aldi are, i doubt they are much different.

Looks okay JasJas, here is a link from ‘Farmers Weekly’ (there is something quite warm and fuzzy about the title, takes me back to when my mum used to get a copy of ‘Womans Weekly😁)

www.fwi.co.uk/business/aldi-holds-on-to-top-spot-for-supplier-relationships

Time for me to ‘bin off’ Sainsburys I think and go full on Aldi (which I have to say were bloomin brilliant during lockdown)

I think the most appropriate slogan would be
“ At least it’s not a no deal”
Which IMO was the point, the prospect of no deal was talked up so that when “Hero” BJ valiantly pulled one out of his arse at the last minute people were so relieved they didn’t look at how shit it is compared to what we had before. I believe it’s actually worse than the deal TM got that BJ rejected but now there’s a penis involved it’s a great deal

No Deal is better than a bad deal A bad deal is better than No Deal.

Bit of a contradictory message there. No surprise from a liar like Johnson.

I believe it’s actually worse than the deal TM got that BJ rejected but now there’s a penis involved it’s a great deal

🤣I have just nearly choked on my coffee!!

PENIS=GREAT DEAL.

Does this mean that Johnson is a wanker?

@Peregrina

PENIS=GREAT DEAL.

Does this mean that Johnson is a wanker?

I doubt he finds the time. Too many mistresses

I wonder how many of these supermarket jobs are zero hours contracts? If so probably we need to make a square root of the total.

The truth - nothing.

And we lost Europe.

You know those 16,000 temporary jobs made into permanent posts at Tesco? (I can't find any details about the hours).

Well, that was in August 2020.

After Tesco got rid of thousands of temporary workers earlier in the year - at the end of April it intended sacking 45,000 of them, according to that left-wing Remainer rag, the Daily Telegraph.

I believe it’s actually worse than the deal TM got that BJ rejected but now there’s a penis involved it’s a great deal

May didn't actually get a deal, though by continually voting down every option and then allowing BJ to have a GE (despite being 10pts behind in the polls) Remainers certainly have enabled Bojo's hard brexit.

I hope with a Biden POTUS, the UK will be encouraged to seek closer co-op with the EU, esp security & defence.

I also think that BJ has an eye on the next GE with his "Lets Keep Brexit Done"
Going to be extremely hard for Labour to promise anything at all for remainers unless the economy tanks and i doubt anyone wishes that.

Sabrina. An investment that will create £3bn of income/production. Are you incapable of reading anything?

Your other comment that FDI profits will end up outside of the UK? Duh!!! Isn’t that the main point of FDI? To gain a return. However at the same time the “host” country reaps benefits from employment and ancillary knock-on income. Surely you understand how foreign investment has worked since it started? Do you think FDI is a not for profit arrangement? Or do you think 100% FDI profits are retained in the country they are earned. Deluded comes to mind if you are arguing against Brexit because FDI profits move back to the “mother country”.

Is going to tank anyway

Well come Monday, we will see a flood of new deals being signed up with the Rest of the World. Or so we were told.

TM did get a deal but it was rejected. Not just by Remainers but by hard line Leavers.
Can’t wait for all these wonderful new trade deals to come flooding in now, I must admit I was slightly concerned about SOYa sauce but thankfully that’s been sorted now

That stalwart Brexiter Ratcliffe who was so committed to the UK that he left, has now seen his firm fined for not paying the minimum wage. It so good to see his loyalty to the UK and its laws.

So were Tesco and Pizza Hut. A mistake, of course.

Thanks for the lecture @TerryHearn I’m quite aware how FDI works. BTW, it was you that said Sky was investing £3 billion - they’re not. Their initial investment of £230 million is forecast to generate £3 billion.

How much of that trickles into the UK economy remains to be seen - because if course you’ll be aware that FDI from large companies into the UK actually gives a poor return to the UK in terms of employment mobility, training, intellectual property, collaboration with local businesses etc?

The ONS data also points to a substantial share of UK services exports being derived from foreign-owned enterprises, and is focussed towards EU markets. Shame that Johnson’s deal didn’t do anything for services - rather makes FDI into the UK’s service industry less attractive doesn’t it?

Anyway this thread is about Brexit wins - so the ONS data on falling levels of FDI sort of backs up the point that Brexiteers can’t actually point to any wins.

Honestly this has been done to death. Four and a half years to find out for yourself what are the benefits.
There are a million articles and government information. Please read some instead of asking here. Get your own opinion MN isn't a place to get unbiased information about Brexit.

If it's been done to death it ought to be easy to list tangible wins.
In the same way that it's possible to list tangible losses which will occur tomorrow.

I don't myself find it a very exciting promise to hear that my grandchildren might reap the benefits when they are well into middle age.

Kraft bought Cadbury, they then moved some production to Poland, the £ is weak, making it cheap to buy up UK companies... all counts toward foreign investment, not all good.

The fact that Ratcliffe, given his billions, has employees on the min wage is a disgrace.
What happened to his much vaunted Landrover type vehicle? where is it being made?

@BlueJag

Honestly this has been done to death. Four and a half years to find out for yourself what are the benefits. There are a million articles and government information. Please read some instead of asking here. Get your own opinion MN isn't a place to get unbiased information about Brexit.

Links, please.

To unbiased sources.

So we can read them ourselves.

@BlueJag

Honestly this has been done to death. Four and a half years to find out for yourself what are the benefits. There are a million articles and government information. Please read some instead of asking here. Get your own opinion MN isn't a place to get unbiased information about Brexit.

There are none to be found. There is obviously nothing tangible in the government information, otherwise you would be able to give us a list of the benefits - like, for example, the huge investment in the NHS which you may note was the major promise but is actually never going to happen, rather than telling people to read it for themselves. Whereas the sheer stupidity and damage to the country of Brexit in any form has been clear for the past 4 and a half years and has been listed time and time again. Unlike the benefits. Not ONE benefit, except this idiocy about "regaining" a sovereignty which was never lost, and avoiding being part of a Federal Europe, which we could have done equally well as members of the EU, given how we avoided doing anything we disliked about the EU for all the time the UK was a member. Go on, you know you want to, give just one immediate tangible benefit to anyone apart from JRM and his ilk, of leaving the EU.