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BrandySours · 24/12/2020 14:47

And so it is done....! 🙌

Finally!

🥳 🎉 🇬🇧 🍾 🥂

Merry Xmas!!

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DoubleTweenQueen · 30/12/2020 16:14

@Jaypreen You jump about with non-specific, disconnected, and meaningless rubbish!

Jaypreen · 30/12/2020 16:24

Oh

Jaypreen · 30/12/2020 16:25

Why do you say that AMRAFP ? It seems to me it's a proper Brexit. Not perfect, but quite acceptable. A million miles from May's BRINO.

bellinisurge · 30/12/2020 16:27

"who voted for independence," the delusion is strong here.
Presume you are ok with Scotland being allowed to vote for independence.
And for a border poll in NI now that you lot have basically washed your hands of Northern Ireland.

BrandySours · 30/12/2020 16:33

Every
Single
Time
🙄🤷🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

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Jaypreen · 30/12/2020 16:37

Scotland and NI. I thought it was I who jumped from "issue to issue"?

bellinisurge · 30/12/2020 16:39

I'm answering your independence nonsense.

bellinisurge · 30/12/2020 16:41

Is this a zombie thread, op?

BelleHathor · 30/12/2020 16:41

@BrandySours

Every Single Time 🙄🤷🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️
👍 👍 👍 A lot of projection, I am reminded of this article from one of the old threads about "Brexit Anxiety Disorder" www.politico.eu/article/brexit-anxiety-disorder-britain-middle-class/amp/ And a newer one from this year about mental health www.openaccessgovernment.org/remainers-mental-distress-migraine-brexit-vote/70621/ 🤦‍♀️
bellinisurge · 30/12/2020 16:42

Classic cult member behaviour from the Arms

LurkingLeaver · 30/12/2020 17:07

Haha, love it brandy 😂. Night of the living-remainer 🧟‍♂️🧟🧟‍♀️

Jaypreen · 30/12/2020 17:07

How is it "nonsense". We voted to be free of the EU. This is now an inevitability.

It's irrelevant what I want or think about Scottish independence because there's no legal path to break up the nation without Parliament's consent.

bellinisurge · 30/12/2020 17:11

And if they seek that consent?

LurkingLeaver · 30/12/2020 17:13

And like zombies, they keep on saying the same things on repeat.

'Explaaaaiiiiiiiiiin'

bellinisurge · 30/12/2020 17:13

Call me zombie if you must but at least I haven't done a cowardly name change

BrandySours · 30/12/2020 17:16

There's only one cult round these parts, and it ain't the crowd I'm part of 🤷🏻‍♀️

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bellinisurge · 30/12/2020 17:19

Isn't awful when people ask you to explain yourselves because you never have an answer for any questions they put to you. They just don't believe hard enough, do they? If only everyone just followed your fantasy waving their little blue book in the air.

LurkingLeaver · 30/12/2020 17:22

Brandy, I won't mind the Zombies so much now because I just read their posts in a groaning zombie 'voice' and have a laugh at the ridiculousness of them. They have the whole internet, but only want to scrape at our windows and chant their demands.

Jaypreen · 30/12/2020 17:26

And if they seek that consent? The only way anyone could "seek it" would be via a referendum? The purpose any such referendum would be to force Parliament to amend or repeal the Acts of Union, because only Parliament can do it.

Put simply - the UK is a sovereign nation, with one supreme source of law. Scotland can only gain independence if it is allowed to do so.

bellinisurge · 30/12/2020 17:28

Because you have somehow got a section of Mumsnet especially for you. You haven't the skill to set up your own forum and you haven't the ingenuity to actually create a thread in an unremarkable corner of this Mumsnet- I actually suggested a way you could do this earlier.
And so you are that noisy neighbourhood pub that everyone can see full of advanced victim hood and self pity because no one understands you.

bellinisurge · 30/12/2020 17:29

But@Jaypreen , if Scotland asked, what would you say? Spoiler alert: they are going to ask.

Aria11 · 30/12/2020 17:36

Jaypreen, I try as much as possible to base my views on facts and not prejudice; I leave prejudice to others. If you are indeed interested in the data about HE researchers leaving the UK, you can read this: www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/brexit-eu-academics-university-no-deal-professors-a9047616.html There are plenty of other similar reports, published in THES among others. And such surveys do not even capture cases of those that would be interested in coming to the UK but have now decided against it because of Brexit. In my institution, one of the largest in the Russell group, we have stuggled since Brexit to fill in senior posts because of guess what? High-skilled researchers no longer want to come to the UK given the greater difficulties they would encounter if they were to work here and the negative attitudes around migrants that would not only affect them but also their families, including their kids. If you expect that many of these people would be prepared to ignore these, you are mistaken. It is actually quite astonishing how Brexiteers expect such people to want to come to the UK given the situation at present and the fact that due to their skills those people can easily get a job anywhere else in the EU. This is also why no-one buys the idea, expressed by the OP and others, that Brexiteers are in favour of highly-skilled migration. In UK universities, EU high-skilled migrants make up a large number of researchers. Not suprisingly, you will also find (if you do some research) that more EU citizens tend to have higher degrees than UK nationals. I am not basing this on prejudice but rather hard data: www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/10/doctoral-graduates-phd-tertiary-education/ Brexiteers may prefer to say that they are in favour of high-skill migration to feel better about themselves but it will be interesting to see what will happen if (and this is a big if given the situation) migration from non-EU countries increases. As for the information about Germany and France, I am frankly at a loss in terms of how it is related to the issue discussed here, which is about Brexit and EU migration.

BrandySours · 30/12/2020 17:37

scrape at our windows and chant their demands.

🤣🤣🤣

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Jason118 · 30/12/2020 17:37

There are international mechanisms, maybe via the 1990 Charter of Paris; you cannot subjugate a population these days if you claim to be a democracy.

LurkingLeaver · 30/12/2020 17:38

Brandy, I went to the cellar to look for some scampi fries, and saw this....and could hear a dull "explaaaaaiiiiiiiin" being croaked.

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