Westminstenders: Prepare for what we said would never happen

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I think that there may be a run on tinned tomatoes and pasta coming. Pizza will no longer have mozzarella in 2021.

On the plus side turnips are in season.

However, people won't forget who cost them their jobs, homes and food due to a game of political one-up-man-ship.

They forgot in the 80's. With COVID its hitting generally low paid hospitality/retail jobs - usually done by people who probably wouldn't vote Tory anyway. The better off are working at home or retired.

People will forget. The one thing that the last 4-5 years has demonstrated is how easy it is to get the Willy to swallow even the most transparent and infantile pablum.

(Lest any of the usual suspects show up to whinge about me the elite Remoaner sneering upon the Willy, I would merely point out that their entire posting strategy is literally based upon this very fact.)

Interesting article on Wales Red. My interpretation of what I've read is a bit different though. It seems to me that Wales always had the option to stop flights from Greece, or this part of Greece, but chose not to use it (unlike Scotland which did act).

Wales preferred to act in consort with the rest of the UK excluding Scotland which had already taken a different path. Wales says it wants to act with the UK, UK Govt says "no"...Wales now complaining about no action on flights from Greece when it always had the option to act on it's own. FWIW (this happens loads of times to me) I think Wales were right on the issue but wrong in trying to dictate the position of the whole UK Government to suit them.

People have already forgotten that Manchester has been in restrictions since July. Longer than anywhere but Leicester.

Its only those directly affected who know.

And even then most people in the area are unaware of how this is part of an ongoing issue of promising one thing and then reneging on it. Its easier to create a situation where local leaders are blamed for financial mismanagement rather than deal with problems as this process also serves the aims of a central government which has a problem working with anyone else.

Come May and local elections, we will have a good idea of which counties are up shit creek and you can bet how this wilk be used in the North who have had particular struggles with the covid crisis.

You can see it coming. You only have to read comes on here where people in Manchester trying to draw attention to issues are accused of being selfish, bickering, being melodramatic etc etc. When its about this problem of being ignored and no one being willing from outside to take any level of responsibility.

Its all about where you can get the buck to stop. And its not with the highest levels where it should do but at lower levels with people who are limited by the actions of those above them.

Top down power oppressing without public accountability.

I wish where l live could split from Boris. Scotland, Ireland and Wales are the lucky ones.

Wish the north could go too😞

@LouiseCollins28

Interesting article on Wales Red. My interpretation of what I've read is a bit different though. It seems to me that Wales always had the option to stop flights from Greece, or this part of Greece, but chose not to use it (unlike Scotland which did act).

Wales preferred to act in consort with the rest of the UK excluding Scotland which had already taken a different path. Wales says it wants to act with the UK, UK Govt says "no"...Wales now complaining about no action on flights from Greece when it always had the option to act on it's own. FWIW (this happens loads of times to me) I think Wales were right on the issue but wrong in trying to dictate the position of the whole UK Government to suit them.

So the evidence wales had wasnt enough. It was them trying to impose their view on the rest of the country rather than wales going 'Look rather compelling evidence here' and London acting like dickheads in announcing a decision an hour ahead of the planned meeting. This of course not being in anyway a deliberately act in a rude and disresepectful manner.

Yes ok. As you say.

www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/gyms-liverpool-city-region-reopen-19139097

Another blunder, as government scurries to achieve consistency.

Talk about deliberately missing the point about the FT article . The point was that Wales was trying to act in concert with WM/England, not that it didn't have the ability to do it with its public health devolved powers (which are specifically mentioned ) but that WM didn't even have the courtesy to respond to Drakeford.

Symptomatic of most communication between WM and the devolved administrations: WM talking at them and ignoring them on most other occasions.

A bit like that 20 minute () phone call yesterday that businesses had with Gove and for 15 minutes BJ: a lecture and platitudes rather than listening to their concerns

emoji I’m sure a lot of Londoners would like to be separated from this government too.

The May elections will be interesting in London too.
Tories are already spreading misinformation in the mayoral campaign. In this excruciating ‘Bake-Off’-style campaign video, the claim is made that Shaun Bailey would get cleaner air for London. It fails to mention the dramatic improvement in air quality under Sadiq Khan.

mobile.twitter.com/ShaunBaileyUK/status/1318624303752118273

‘Dramatic’ plunge in London air pollution since 2016, report finds

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment/2020/oct/03/dramatic-plunge-in-london-air-pollution-since-2016-report-finds

We had some campaign stuff masquerading as a survey on crime through the letterbox from Shaun. My daughter had a good time letting off steam and we made sure his campaign had to bear the cost of the free post back. Clearly he is going to pretend he is the answer to the problem of crime as opposed to the cause of it.

@TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince

I wish where l live could split from Boris. Scotland, Ireland and Wales are the lucky ones.

Wish the north could go too😞

@TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince - Ireland is an independent country that is going to be badly affected by the fuckwits in the UK government.

We fought for independence for 100's of years. It is really insulting when British (usually English) people don't seem to realise that we are an independent country.

Sick of all the idiots on Facebook siding with Boris over Burnham. Does Not fill me with confidence for future elections either...

I don’t need a lecture on Irish History thank you very much. My family suffered under the hands of the Black and Tans.

And l agree it will be shafted by the fuckwit English. I’m on the side of the Irish. But l still need a lecture🤔

Hester, l think realistically apart from a small area of the south east and the Red Wall most people want to split from Boris including his own party.

And from what I’ve read the Red Wall are pissed off with him too.

@TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince - you got the lecture as you stated Scotland, Ireland and Wales were the lucky ones as they could split from the Boris. Northern Ireland can split from Boris. Ireland split 100 years ago.

I meant Northern Ireland🙂

Wish l lived anywhere except Little England tbh😭

@TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince

I meant Northern Ireland🙂

Wish l lived anywhere except Little England tbh😭

A slip of the fingers

Presumably you can get an Irish passport? We're pretty welcoming over here.

I know. I could get one. But it would mean going back years to find the birth records. But yes l could.

AND you know what? A beautiful poetic harp trumps a shit blue passport any time!

In fact an embarrassing blue passport. I’m ashamed that l may own one of these.

Fwiw, everyone l know with any European/Irish ancestory has applied for a non British passport. Polish, Irish, French, Italian. No one wants a English passport. I nearly wrote UK instead of English, but the U.K. won’t be around much longer l guess!

Take this in the spirit with which it's intended, but here's hoping

@TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince

In fact an embarrassing blue passport. I’m ashamed that l may own one of these.

Fwiw, everyone l know with any European/Irish ancestory has applied for a non British passport. Polish, Irish, French, Italian. No one wants a English passport. I nearly wrote UK instead of English, but the U.K. won’t be around much longer l guess!

Go for it.

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emoji I’m sure you’re right; there are people all over the country who are sick of the Tories. It’s so dispiriting that with FPTP, their vote is diluted and in many areas there are enough Con voters spread around to let the Tories in.
Hopefully this unfair system will change one day. The majority of the electorate haven’t ‘given consent’ to this government’s policies. (Also some Tory voters have ‘gone off them’.) It’s bound to lead to division and unrest.
In an electoral system in which you can secure a sizeable majority with only 35% of the vote, winning is not the same as governing.

bylinetimes.com/2020/10/19/no-one-likes-us-we-dont-care-is-no-way-to-govern/

(Also, many of us have no way of getting an EU passport, which is very depressing. And over-55s have no chance of emigrating to NZ!))

Hopefully this unfair system will change one day.

Only by violence. Why on earth would the people that do well out of it ever change it ? Especially since it's worked for them for 954 years.

There's no such thing as an English passport (yet).