Westministenders: Brevid

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The government have FINALLY started to treat no deal brexit and covid as one entity in terms of fucking the economy.

On the one hand you have one camp who think they can sneak No Deal through as a consequence of Covid. On the other you have people who realise that it might be quite a good idea not to doubly screw your entire economy and to continue to be able to import medical supplies freely.

We now no that No Deal Brexit will involve passports to get into Kent and 7 mile queues of trucks because this has passed the lips of Gove. Y'know one of those who has been denying this for the past 4 years and presenting it as 'scaremongering'.

We are now firmly into the end game where businesses have to make plans based on the government plans and technology. Y'know the ones that aren't complete yet despite it only being 2 months to go.

Johnson has today done an interview about covid restrictions in the NE in which he got all the detail wrong. Its almost as if he forgot the lines he was instructed to recite and have no fundamental understanding of what rules he's putting into place to control the lives of the population.

As we lurch into October, there is speculation of full local lockdowns being brought in to try and deal with the spiralling number of cases which have to be the result, in no small part, of a dire lack of local testing facilities in the North of England. Meanwhile we've got The App finally. The one that doesn't work and the police and many health care staff are being advised not to use cos its so bobbins and will lead to them constantly isolating needlessly. Thats just something the rest of us have to contend with.

The feeling is that Cummings is up for No Deal. Johnson has been brainwashed into it, which lets face it, isn't too hard given how hard of thinking he is. However there is a growing sense that Johnson may now bottle it and declare victory in the jaws of defeat. That might be a premature hope.

We await the answer and the all important question of whether Christmas is indeed cancelled - that is for everyone who hasn't already cancelled it due to financial hardship...

Clav Are you going to trawl through the minutiae of every EU member state, looking for mistakes

If you can be paid for what you enjoy, you'd never work again.

Jan 2020 -
"More than 1,400 EU-based firms have applied for permission to operate in the UK after Brexit, with over 1,000 of these planning to establish their first UK office, according to a Freedom of Information request (FOI) by financial regulatory consultancy Bovill. The FOI provides evidence that London and the UK will continue to be a leading player on the global financial stage after Brexit."

www.bovill.com/london-set-to-remain-financial-services-capital-of-europe-as-over-1000-eu-firms-plan-to-open-uk-offices/

Clav Are you going to trawl through the minutiae of every EU member state, looking for mistakes

You can blame BigChoc - I actually bothered to read her link. I can't help it if I happen to spot other headlines on the same page.

@Clavinova

It was a mistake in the coding process, which was quickly acknowledged as soon as it was found

No it wasn't - they kept it secret for 6 days!

... No evidence of "hiding"

Let's see what happens in January after we get No Deal

I suspect clav will be posting long screeds about Marmite shortages in Berlin
and how this is so much worse than what GB are suffering that Merkel will be phoning BJ to beg for mercy

No evidence of "hiding"

"Sinn Féin’s spokesperson on education, Donnacha O’Laoghaire told TheJournal.ie that he does not think it is “credible or right that the Taoiseach sat on this so long, that he kept his coalition partners in the dark for six days, or most of all the Leaving Cert students of 2020 in the dark”.

If she were a footie fan, instead of a Tory fangirl,
she'd be posting about the disastrous performance of the other team only beating her side 10:1

Gosh, taking Sinn Fein's version of things
rather than it taking 6 days to check what had happened, how, who was responsible and what could be done

Then the Irish government forgot to draw it out longer in repeated U-turns like Gav did

• for millions of exam results

Of course, you may have forgotten Sinn Fein is the official opposition there and is currently trying to dig out anything it can against the government

The only thing on which they will agree with the government is that the consequences of Brexit are the UK govt's fault

• but even there, they'll never agree that the Irish govt did all it could They say it was too soft

Are you going to quote what Sin Fein thinks of British government policy too ?

@Clavinova - No evidence of "hiding"

So several days to figure out the implications of the issue and then the details are shared and opposition spokesperson claims government messed up.

Not exactly conspiracy of the century.

Since we are looking at Ireland:

Pelosi warns 'no chance' of US-UK trade deal if Brexit violates international treaty

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/09/10/politics/nancy-pelosi-brexit-congress-uk-gbr-intl/index.html

Rep. Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the United States House of Representatives, has warned that Britain will be unable to secure a trade deal with the US if it does anything to undermine the treaty that brought peace to Northern Ireland after decades of violence.

Pelosi's comments came after the UK said it would legislate to override parts of the divorce deal with the European Union in the event that a trade agreement isn't reached.
The UK government claims that its Internal Market Bill is designed to ensure that trade between the four nations of the United Kingdom would remain unfettered in the event of a no-deal Brexit.

The UK concedes that it would breach the EU withdrawal agreement; a British Cabinet minister said this week that the legislation would "break international laww^ in a very specific and limited way."

That did not go down well among top Democrats in the US, who fear it could undermine the 1998 Good Friday agreement, which brought peace to Northern Ireland after decades of sectarian conflict.

"If the UK violates that international treatyy^ and Brexit undermines the Good Friday accord, there will be absolutely no chance of a US-UK trade agreement passing the Congress,"
Pelosi said in a statement on Wednesday.
....
Pelosi's statement will come as a major blow to the UK,
as several prominent Brexiteers have claimed that the ability to sign international trade deals will be the most obvious upshot of leaving the European Union.

As a member state and part of the EU's single market and customs union, the UK could not negotiate its own trade deals and instead was represented at the World Trade Organization by a delegate from the EU.

A trade deal with the US has been repeatedly described as the most important of these, given the size of the US economy,
the historic relationship between Britain and the US and the fact that the US is the UK's largest single trading partner,
despite the two having no formal trading agreement.

Trump's gone into hospital according to R4 world tonight

opposition spokesperson claims government messed up.

"coalition partners" not opposition.

I meant coalition partners were not told.

Biden says trade deal with Britain hangs on respect for Northern Irish peace agreement

The chances that Trump might sacrifice some Irish-American votes to help out BJ / the UK .... are not high

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/17/brexit-biden-says-trade-deal-with-britain-hangs-on-respect-for-gfa.html#close

Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden has become the latest U.S. lawmaker to warn the U.K. government about plans to potentially break international law.

The U.K. government published legislation last week that, if approved by British lawmakers in its current form, could override previously legislated Brexit commitments on the Irish border issue.
The plan has resurfaced old disagreements with the European Unionn_, sparked opposition from some British lawmakers, and caused concern among a number of American politicians.

“We can’t allow the Good Friday Agreement that brought peace to Northern Ireland to become a casualty of Brexit,”
Biden said

@Clavinova

I meant coalition partners were not told.

... They would need to be told the full facts - whiuch take a few days to collect

You must be desperate if you are clinging to Sinn Fein

Pelosi's statement will come as a major blow to the UK

Not even if we sell off the NHS and take chlorinated chicken?

So you think the Uk doesn't need a deal with the EU

Doesn't need a deal with the USA

We don't know what penalty clauses for reneging Japan will insist on having in any FTA - if they think the UK will abide by penalty clauses

Anyone negotiating / planning to negotiate with the UK will be writing down their penalties for reneging,
then before signing, probably wait to see if there is No Deal with the EU

@Clavinova

Pelosi's statement will come as a major blow to the UK

Not even if we sell off the NHS and take chlorinated chicken?

.... They'll demand that and the NI protocol too !

The US doesn't normally "negotiate" trade deals, especially when it has the other country over a barrel

@Clavinova - I meant coalition partners were not told.

Coalition partners were told once they had an understanding of the problem.

The role of opposition is to criticise the government so that is what Sinn Féin did.

As I said, hardly conspiracy of the century.

[quote Jason118]I can't seem to find the word 'frictionless' in this missive. Or 'timely'.

www.gov.uk/government/news/200-million-port-infrastructure-fund-opens-for-bids[/quote]
But might we find the word 'nepotism' or 'patronage'?

Trump at Walter Reed hospital

Did he give himself the bleach injections ?

So you think the Uk doesn't need a deal with the EU

I'd like to see a deal with the EU - it's certainly my preference.

Well, if there is no EU deal, the UK will be even more desperate and the US - whoever is POTUS - will use that

The late German Chancellor Helmut Schmidt:

"The Special Relationship is so Special, that only one side knows of its existence"