Westminstenders: Pah International Law. Who needs it?

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I mean its not as if trade deals and human rights are relevant is it?

(sorry eating my dinner so must be brief)

it is the case that the Protocol contains a number of issues that the UK and EU both have a legally binding agreement to resolve by the end of the year.
Not sure if that's true? If we have no trade agreement we trade using WTO rules. Unless there's something else she's referring to?

Hhhhmmmm Jason - I think I got the same response word for word. I am in south west Hertfordshire.....do we have the same MP ? Probably more they have been given a standard response from conservative HQ.

Nope I've got loathsome, I thought it was far too intelligent to have been self penned

The legally binding end of year stuff is the NI protocol checking arrangements - UK gov has been dragging it's feet on this since day 1, all part of the intention never to comply methinks

Not sure if that's true? If we have no trade agreement we trade using WTO rules. Unless there's something else she's referring to?

I don't think so. My understanding is the NI is designed specifically to cover the eventuality of no deal. There are probably some beurocratic details that need to be finalised depending on the type of deal but the WA and the protocol are clear: a border in the Irish Sea if the UK diverge from EU. .

I’m very disappointed that this is the case, but the Commission has sought to require us, as a departed member state, to continue to abide by their rules - this is totally unacceptable.

Ummm, here’s an example - Article 10 of the NI Protocol makes it quite clear that the UK will need to abide by EU rules in state aid:

The provisions of Union law listed in Annex 5 to this Protocol shall apply to the United Kingdom, including with regard to measures supporting the production of and trade in agricultural products in Northern Ireland, in respect of measures which affect that trade between Northern Ireland and the Union which is subject to this Protocol

ANNEX 5: PROVISIONS OF UNION LAW REFERRED TO IN ARTICLE 10(1)

So “totally unacceptable” that Johnson proclaimed it as a great victory, an oven ready deal, and then made all his MPs sign up to it?

Oh dear, who didn’t read the small print?

How does anyone reply to their drivel? I suppose publishing the letter on social media to find out how many MPs have written the same word for word reply is s start, but then what?

How the UK is destroying itself over Brexit

www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2020/09/how-uk-destroying-itself-over-brexit

Toby Young now wants BJ to go,
although for some months the perennially nasty Young has seemed angry about lockdown & SD rather than Brexit bungles - he seems of the "just flu" denialist persuasion

paulonbooks.blogspot.com/2020/09/i-was-wrong-to-back-boris-says-toby.html#.X2PWMS1HmfC

I intend to reply, if I can I'll point out why central office is wrong

Tory Brexiters gambling on a Trump win - they are totally fucked if Biden wins,
now they've attacked him far more openly than Tories attacked Bill Clinton in the 90s and from a higher level : former Tory leader IDS

British politicians should always avoid wading in during US elections
After his 2015 outburst while London Mayor, BJ is lucky Trump didn't mark him as a lifelong enemy

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/do-not-lecture-britain-over-brexit-iain-duncan-smith-tells-joe-biden-zwcfx0n9w

The former Tory leader Iain Duncan Smith has told the presidential candidate Joe Biden to tackle rioting in the US rather than “lecture” Britain over Northern Ireland.
Conservative Brexiteers reacted angrily after Mr Biden rebuked Boris Johnsonn_ over his threat to tear up parts of the Brexit deal with the EU that relate to Northern Ireland.

The Democrats’ presidential candidate warned that Washington would only agree to a trade deal if Britain respected the Good Friday Agreement. His intervention came after Dominic Raab, the foreign secretary, had sought to put Britain’s case to senior US politicians including Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the House of Representatives.
“We can’t allow the Good Friday Agreement that brought peace to Northern Ireland to become a casualty of Brexit,”

"They don't like it up 'em, Captain Mainwaring!"

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54199535

The Home Office has "no idea" what its £400m-a-year immigration enforcement unit achieves, meaning it is unprepared for Brexit, MPs have warned.
The cross-party Public Accounts Committee said a lack of diversity at the top of the department also risked a repeat of the Windrush scandal.
Its policies may be based purely on "assumption and prejudice", it warned.

I’m sure that nobody on this thread finds this at all surprising. After all, aren’t assumption and prejudice (along with pocket lining) the basis of most policies of this government?

I read on Facebook that Lord Moylan is disturbed by rumours that Barrister MPs have been receiving calls from heads of chambers saying that they will never work in the law again if they support the internal market bill. Commentators think that he is the one in the wrong and that Heads of Chambers are right.

Just popping in to say I am 790 posts behind!

Big hints on BBC radio 4 about a tougher Nationwide lockdown in the offing in next 2 weeks. Preeti Patel better get goin doin her job me thinks!

I wouldn't be surprised if we did get another national lockdown. Which would be awful - DD1 and fostered teen off to uni this weekend; will they have to turn round and come straight back? And so far the 6th form bubble at school hasn't burst, but the collapse of the testing system is a massive concern. And still I have friends who think this government has handled COVID better than a Labour government would have done.

On radio 4 saying that Wednesday sage presented their concerns about rises on Covid cases and potential of deaths rising raipidy and they suggest a ' circuit break: ( partial national lockdown) also Chancellor on Thursday presented his fire report on economy so what will the Government do? Economy or Health?

Gov't really does not want to close work or educational settings.

At my university, they have gone to extreme measures to ensure social distancing etc. Within the buildings, contact will definitely be distanced and everyone must wear masks etc. No one can turn to talk to each other in a f2f seminar. Furniture in rooms can't be moved. The calculations indicate no more than 29 students in a lecture theatre designed for 400 students etc. This may all be a serious drag on social interaction in a learning setting, but it ought to help keep transmission reduced.

However, the best measure they've put into place is a university test and trace system. All done within campus perimeters and results guaranteed within 24hours. As PP's have noted, trained research staff that had gone to help nationally with testing, have returned to their jobs and now the capacity is back on the campus to do our own testing. So hopefully any cases can be swiftly managed.

Where the problem will be is in the off campus parties those students are planning!

Matt Hancock has just suggested on R4 that the testing shortages are the result of making something free and widely available 😲

He did that a couple of days ago in Parliament - I posted my horror at the time

Is the suggestion that if you want a test pay for it at £150 a shot then? Bye the way Owen Patterson getting paid £500 an hour for doing? For the private company running the tests.

Ditto. I worry that he's softening us up for something bad...

www.nhsforsale.info/commissioning/randox-labs-advised-by-owen-paterson-won-133m-virus-testing-contract-unopposed/

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