Westminstenders: Run Forrest Run

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Need i say more?

I wonder if the online bookie will start a book on the most smuggled items ? Presumably you'd need two charts, "legal" and "illegal" ?

Illegal would probably be drugs, narcotics and people.

Legal ? Well it's hard to match the profit/Kg for tobacco and cigarettes. After that alcoholic goods ? Obviously the non existent quality control would encourage adulteration with goodness-knows-what.

Medicines ? I guess that could be in both camps depending ... with the same caveat about quality control or lack thereof.

www.etsy.com/uk/market/pill_molds

I might well go into knocking out fake meds myself. I saw in a recent thread there might be problems with "iodothyronine" so that could be a good starting point.

Maybe we have got this all wrong after all ? Maybe we were Remoaning too much ? It's hard to deny Brexit really is opening up a flood of opportunities.

When I did A level chemistry we made salicylic acid from. I might just start a breaking bad style aspirin business.

@quiteathome

When I did A level chemistry we made salicylic acid from. I might just start a breaking bad style aspirin business.

You need to make sure whatever you peddle can have absolutely fuck all effect on the human body.

So a bulk load of homeopathy tat should do nicely.

DGR
Dover smuggling before the single market of legal goods was mostly tobacco and booze as the duty rates on the continent were lower

@ListeningQuietly

DGR Dover smuggling before the single market of legal goods was mostly tobacco and booze as the duty rates on the continent were lower

(coughs) er, I know. There was a reason my DF popped to Italy a lot. (In fact he organised a whole ferry load of staff and customers to visit Turin for a weekend. Big suitcases sir ? Well you never know the weather. Officer.

It's one reason why my DB and I have memories of going to visit our DGM in Cornwall while he was away.

No danger of being caught as there were at least 4 policemen we knew in the party.

It was around about 1972 that I realised there was a difference between UK and European cigarette cartons - ours being cardboard.

It's telling the last trip they did was in 1977 - also the last time I saw my Nan

@Emilyontmoor

Boris defending Abbott now “ . What I would say about Tony Abbott is this is a guy who was elected by the people of the great liberal democratic nation of Australia. It’s an amazing country, it’s a freedom-loving country, it’s a liberal country. There you go, I think that speaks for itself.”

I think he missed a bit out ..... “a freedom loving country, it’s a liberal country. They kicked him out in record time, there you go, I think it speaks for itself”

We can only hope our own liberal country makes a quicker job of it......

But we don't live in a liberal country any more. Look at all these protests by politicians and celebrities against him, and imagine changing the words 'misogynist' or 'sexist' to Terf. Imagine his comments against women being changed to trans. He would never have got started in the first place. Meanwhile women are being sacked for not believing in male fairy tales and conforming to men's every sexual fetish. There's another thread about material being circulated to secondary schools.

Meant to add, the problems with logistics and IT systems has hit the main press. Sky News is running it. I'm not immediately seeing it on the BBC

Where are all these people who were complaining about the unelected officials in the EU anyway?

M6 and M1 through Leicestershire and Warwickshire maybe?

What is Tony Abbott getting out of working for 'free'?

@Cherrypi

M6 and M1 through Leicestershire and Warwickshire maybe?

Why have I just remember a Jasper Carrot sketch about Newport Pagnell being targetted for a nuclear strike ?

Pepperwort
DGR linked the BBC story earlier
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54021421

Pepperwort Point taken but then the term liberal is also up for grabs in relation to Australia. It is just Abbott didn’t have the benefit of right wing billionaires and Russian interference funding the manipulation of social media and MSM to start a cult in order to set up a banana republic of croneyism and incompetence. The Aussies only have to cope with a merry go round of politicians who never really hang around long enough to do much damage..... When I was in Australia in 2016 there was a lot of moaning about ineffectual politicians, they aren’t moaning now.....

Darker Attention.... Nothing gets to a failed politician like irrelevance.....

"What has same sex marriage got to do with Brexit?"
@Clavinova
Exactly. The newspapers were quoting Tony Abbott's stance on same-sex marriages from 2014 - even Germany didn't recognise them until the end of 2017.

The EU will wonder what they did to merit the UK sending a political has-been of such dubious reputation their way. They are also going to wonder if the UK is scraping the bottom of the barrel, if nobody with a shred of a reputation to maintain applied for the post.

Besides his homophobia and misogyny, and his regrettable tendency to stick his foot in his mouth and keep on shoving, I'm also interested in his notion that elderly covid patients could be left to die. If saving money on healthcare is the reason, why not apply the same standard to millions of others? From his comments on lockdown to save lives vs. the financial interests of the owner class, I suspect he has no interest whatsoever in workers' rights, so I suppose he is right up the Tories' alley and they will be able to trust him not to mess up their post-Brexit bonfire plans.

His consistent misogyny (and egregious homophobia) are of great interest, yes, because they are dog whistle issues to the Right. He is there to whip up public opinion against the best interests of millions of Britons, an Aussie version of Donald Trump, spewing out the sort of garbage that is eagerly lapped up by people with nice big buttons for easy pushing. He is there to make sure the failure of the negotiations will be greeted by street parties in the UK.

Relatively trivial in the scheme of things I know but..

British Transport Secretary Grant Shapps registered his U.K.-based private plane in the U.S., POLITICO has established, meaning that he benefits from rules perceived as less stringent than domestic regulations.

www.politico.eu/article/grant-schapps-uk-transport-secretary-registered-his-private-plane-under-weaker-us-rules/

notimagain
Amazing he actually registered it under his real name rather than one of his alias ones

Smuggling already has a long history on the UK's only land border. This border is where the problem for HMRC and for public health officials and the police is going to occur.

Counterfeit cigarettes and fuel (illicit diesel in particular) are currently the main issues, but of course there is scope for much more varied merchandise and in far greater quantities too.

A no-deal Brexit will turbo charge cross border smuggling. There are gangs with decades of experience ready to get operations going on both sides of the border. Approximately 210 roads of varying grade straddle the border - about half that number crosses the EU's entire eastern border with non-EU states.

Contributors to these threads have already spoken a lot about the policing issues that loom.

I can see how Brexit will provide new trading opportunities after all, ie smuggling. Silly me not to have realised this back in 2016.

mathanxiety
A million years ago on these very threads we compared the number of border crossing roads in Ireland with those between the USA and Canada

I know a lot of people here in the North of Ireland (west of the Bann anyway) are hoping Brexit leads to reunification. My DH is Protestant from East Belfast and for our children's future he is also hoping for it.

mathanxiety

In October 2012, Australian PM Julia Gillard publicly calls out Tony Abbott for sexism and misogyny (and quotes something fairly innocuous he said in 1998) - six weeks later one of her own backbench MPs tweets that the Liberal deputy leader Julie Bishop is a "narcissistic bimbo." Julia Gillard doesn't give her own MP a public reprimand - she has a quiet word with him instead;

"Ms Gillard has spoken with Mr Gibbons over his tweets and he has now "unreservedly” apologised, the PM’s office said."

"The tweet comes weeks after Prime Minister Julia Gillard promised to call out sexism wherever she saw it."

"the Coalition has been quick to demand Ms Gillard stand Mr Gibbons aside from his role as Deputy Chair of the regional Australia parliamentary committee."

"She has made this the issue when she put fairly and squarely on the record she was going to call out sexism and misogyny wherever she sees it, she also says people in public life should be held to account,” Opposition status of women spokeswoman Michaelia Cash said."

"One senior female Labor minister has spoken out against Mr Gibbons." ...

Typical Labour Party the world over;

www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/national/labor-mp-stebve-gibbons-calls-julie-bishop-a-bimbo-then-says-sorry/news-story/4585a41cc93936efd3feb98a22100c30

"he has now "unreservedly” apologised"

When has Abbott "unreservedly apologised" ?

mathanxiety
If saving money on healthcare is the reason, why not apply the same standard to millions of others?

Regrettably, I think that was his point - there are finite amounts spent on access to new cancer drugs for example.

Besides, even if another Australian politician is a misogynist, why on earth does that justify BJ choosing any of them ?

I don't see the logic

There are plenty of NON-misogynist trade negotiators he could have chosen, of any nationality